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2C-I, 4-AcO-MiPT, 4-HO-DiPT, 2-CC -- Exp. except 2C-C -- Not recommended but FUN!!

MagickalKat777

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Alright, I know that I'm going to catch hell for this, because it was very irresponsible what I did, but I don't regret any of it and I am prepared for the backlash. Anyway, here goes.

It was about 3AM, I woke up from sleep (went to bed about 10-ish didn't really fall asleep until 12) and was no longer tired. I had been wanting to try a high dose of 2C-I for awhile, and decided that the time had come.

I got out my scale and measured out about 22mg of 2C-I, put it in a capsule and ate it. The highest dose that I had ever done before was 20mg and was a bit too much, with all the stimulation and tachycardia, and not much on the visual, but I had a good feeling about that night.

I went out into the living room and got on the computer, chatting with friends for about an hour. I could already feel it building, and there was some visual content coming on. I rather liked it so I decided to add another 20mg. Originally, I was just going to take 10, and made a 10mg capsule. But looking at it, I decided that I might as well finish off the bottle and dumped the other 10mg into another capsule and dropped both, discarding the vial.

I went back out to the living room and waited for it to come on full force. At about 5:30AM, I began tripping balls. I had a euphoric body high similar to MDMA without the over-stimulation and various body issues that I normally get from both substances. In fact, that night, I didn't even have a tinge of nausea, which is weird since I get nauseaous from everything.

Anyway, I got lost in the computer monitor, and started watching as the text melted down the screen. Sometimes, it would just fall right off, and other times, it would gain so much depth that it looked totally three-dimensional. The chemical seems to come in waves, an effect that I've noticed from previous experiences, and this starts to annoy me. I continue chatting with friends and the drug continues building, with a mental component gently making itself known. It is hard to put a description to the mental component that I was experiencing, as I normally don't get one from any substance, but there was something "different" about this trip.

I lose track of time for the rest of the experience, as the trip builds itself into an intensity to where, at the peak, I had no visual stability, and couldn't see anything for what it was, therefore time was lost.

I went outside for a cigarette and this is where things got interesting. I've never had such a synergy come from smoking a cigarette before. As soon as I lit the cigarette and took the first puff, my heart started racing and my vision became a multi-dimensional mass of pure hallucination. Not only were there patterns, but everything seemed to have split into three or four different "layers" of reality with some sort of a wave-like energy causing these tears. I continue to watch this in absolute awe and part of me is going "something isn't right, I've really fucked up" at which point the chemical started to soothe me, producing thoughts about how the universe is nothing but multi-dimensional planes organized into one living breathing, conscious mass of scientific and physical perfection. My mind wanders off on various tangents about how everything is connected, not only because everything in the universe consists of energy, but because everything in the universe has its own form of consciousness that it derives from that energy. This continues on for awhile, and I am very amused by it. I had to have spent about a half an hour to an hour outside smoking that cigarette and by the time I was finished, grandma had woken up. A ++++ experience, something that I've had before, and treasure greatly.

I go inside and things calm back down, the peak wave seeming to have passed, and hold a conversation with my grandma with very little effort. Thoughts and ideas flow into a stream of consciously arranged words that seem to flow out of my mouth seamlessly.

I end up having to tell grandma that I took something, as my pupils were extremely dilated, something that 2C-I has never caused before. She was okay with it, as I seemed to be okay, although I lied to her and told her that I took my "anti-depressant" not 2C-I.

Anyway, she makes breakfast and insists that I sit down and eat with her. I was a little bit worried about being able to eat, as chemicals usually upset my stomach and remove my appetite. Surprisingly, the food was wonderful and it felt great to eat. We shared a nice conversation, and she noticed that I seemed to have gone poetic on her. I hadn't noticed up until this point, but we both are amused by it, and we attributed the action to the 2C-I (in her mind, the anti-depressant).

After eating, the drug started to decrease its effects, waving in and out until about 12:00 or so, with nothing really significant inbetween. I hopped on the computer and started talking to my friend whom we will call M, and I find that he has just tried 30mg of 4-AcO-MiPT, a substance that I love and gave to him, and he is enjoying himself greatly. We start talking for awhile, and I decide that I'm going to take about 20mg of it myself. I eat my capsule, which the scale read as 16mg but I feel was more in the 20mg range, not expecting much, and not getting much.

He invites me to come over and takes 44mg of 2C-I himself. I convince grandma that I'm okay to drive, take a shower, make another 34mg capsule of 4-AcO-MiPT, and leave. I bring my scale with me, as there was some talk of possibly dosing up on something else later.

Driving is amusing, something was making me think that I was in a racecar, and as such, I was going about 70 MPH in a 40-45MPH zone, most of the way to his house. Surprisingly, my "po-dar" (police radar) was greatly enhanced and I could sense them whenever they were near and I would slow down to the speed limit, see them, pass them, and race off again. This happened twice, I believe, and I found it to be karmically reassuring.

About 5 minutes before I got to his house, I took my 4-AcO-MiPT capsule and called to let him know that I was there. I got there, breathed a sigh of relief having made it, and about 10 minutes later (15 minutes from taking the capsule), I was already feeling the 4-AcO-MiPT ramp up and my visuals took a strange turn. I started talking to him about how the visuals of 4-AcO-MiPT are so different from any other chemical, and how most chemicals have "stock" visuals, and this chemical doesn't. He agrees with me and I watch some of the most colorful, most loosely arranged, and most interesting patterns that I've ever seen for about 3 hours or so, upon which time, the AcO starts dying down and so does his 2C-I trip.

We chill, enjoying a nice conversation for awhile, and then decide to take something else. We were thinking about taking some 2C-E, and get out his jar of chemicals. We couldn't find the 2C-E! We spent maybe 5 minutes digging for it, and couldn't find it. While digging through, his last 100mg of 4-HO-DiPT and his 2C-C make themselves known, the 4-HO-DiPT popping up out of nowhere. Now, we've taken 44mg of 4-HO-DiPT each before, and didn't find it all that interesting, but for some reason, it seemed like it was saying "eat me, eat me!" today. We finally find the 2C-E, it buried itself really deep and since 2C-E was the last thing we used last time I was over, it shouldn't have been. I told him that it was a sign that we shouldn't take THAT chemical and after a bit of convincing, he agrees with me.

So, we get out the scale and measure out the 4-HO-DiPT. I take about 44mg, I believe, and he takes like 10 or 15mg more. I can't remember his exact dose, I'll have to ask him about it. Anyway, last time we took the HO, it took about an hour and a half to build up, but that wasn't the case this time. In fact, the chemical seemed to have the timeline that TiHKAL described it to have, with about 15-20 minutes to onset and another 10 minutes or so to the peak, and about an hour and a half total for duration.

Now this time, it was extremely intense! I have never had such fast changing and "earthy" visuals before! There was a record on his wall, and the space around it turned into a sunflower a few times, but the sunflower's petals were spinning and quickly. Then the sunflower turned into a ring of women dancing around the record holding hands, almost as if in a pagan ritual of some sort, and then they turned into trees that grew stars off the branches and dropped them, creating a starry universe on the wall. M is completely fascinated with the ceiling, and completely fucked up, his speech slurred, and his balance uncoordinated. We are both overwhelmed and surprised by the intensity. In fact, at one point, we both said the same thing at the exact same time. We were "pleasantly surprised" and we both laughed and agreed that was all that needed to be said about it.

We continued to trip nuts for awhile, with a really strong mental component, very reminiscent of the strong push that AMT had for me, to where I couldn't help but pay attention to what the chemical was teaching me and wanted me to see.

We slowly started to comedown and then started discussing about taking something else. Now, I had never had 2C-C before and was VERY interested in trying it, especially since it was said to be "malleable" and mild, not only on the mind, but the body as well. He gets out a dark bottle that had no label, and had a small amount of fluffy material in it. I start measuring it out, looking to take about a 50mg dose each, only to find that there was about 50mg total in the vial. We start conversing for awhile and then I remember that there was a label on the 2C-C vial and we figure out that this was in fact 2C-D. He takes his capsule and I leave mine alone, not wanting to take too many substances all at once, and we get the 2C-C. Now, this is the most WEIGHTY substance that I've ever seen, even more compact than the 4-AcO-MiPT, with 50mg of 2C-C looking like a little less than 30mg of 4-AcO-MiPT!! Don't ever eyeball this stuff, its not possible!

Anyway, we end up measuring out about 66mg for him, and about 46mg for myself, this being my first time with this particular compound, and his second. I take my capsules and get a strong alert at about 15 minutes, no nausea, just a little bit of stomach burning (I hadn't eaten at all that day, except for the eggs and toast I had that morning and it was already about 9 at night) which was quickly cured by drinking a glass of water. Anyway, the first visual that I notice is the most amazing visual I've ever had. There seems to be a rainbow stream of light that appears underneath the record, and begins spinning, while the record itself turns to the most beautiful shade of purple (my favorite color) that I've ever seen and begins patterning.

We begin noticing that this has a very strong loopy component, and we both enjoy it thoroughly and once again, we were pleasantly surprised, for about the umpteenth million time that night. The visuals of this substance are quite malleable, and I find that I am able to bring any visual content that I want by focusing my mind on it slightly or I can just leave the substance alone and let it take me where it wants to. At one point, I got some strong 2C-T-2 visuals, including a pyramid of fire on the wall, and the typical persian carpet visuals of most phens, only with a different aspect to them. It's really hard to describe but very impressive, especially with all the chemicals that we had done that day. The trip continues on and was the only drug of the day that didn't have the annoying wave effect of the 2C-I. In fact, there was nothing unpleasant about this chemical, not even the stong mental component. We had a lot of fun listening to music, everything from Fleetwood Mac and Lords of Acid, no dark "edges" to speak of. And somewhere through this, I gave him my 2C-D capsule, bringing him up to 50mg of 2C-D, as I didn't want to change this amazing 2C-C experience at all.

I continued to have some amazing visuals, with pastel butterflies fluttering across the ceiling at times and the most colorful tracers that I have ever seen. At some point in the beginning of the trip, I make mention to M that 2C-C is a gem and he agrees completely. He noticed a lot more this time than his first time taking it, and really enjoys it. We are both pleasantly sedated, yet at the same time, we can bring up waves of euphoric energy for dancing to music, something that we both don't normally do. This substance is perfect, and reminds me of MDMA without the over-stimulation, body-load, and general fucked-upness (in the unpleasant way, we were VERY fucked up but loving it) that MDMA leaves. We were both more social, happy, and tripped out, than we expected to be.

The night continued, and we finally went to bed still tripping mildly at about 2-3AM, a full 24 hours for me, and about 18 for him. I had a great sleep, and woke up without much of a hangover other than being drained, as did he. We were both pleasantly surprised once again, as 2C-I has given both of us headaches (and myself MIGRAINES) each time we have used it.

The trip was meant to happen, everything fell in line perfectly, and it just felt "right" to do. The lack of negatives was astounding, especially considering the doses that we took and how many compounds we took. We are definitely going to keep experimenting with the 2C-C and 4-AcO-MiPT in combination with other substances again, as they both seem to rid the body of any negatives and don't have any of their own, even for me, and I am one of the most sensitive people to bodyload.

I don't regret any part of this experience, and, while I wouldn't repeat it, I had fluctuations between +++ and ++++ throughout the experiences and was very impressed. It seems that 2C-I causes a reverse tolerance to anything that you take after it, as my experiences with both 4-AcO-MiPT and 4-HO-DiPT were both the most intense experiences I've ever had with those compounds, and the 2C-C was a lot more intense and beautiful than I could have ever imagined.

We will each be taking about a month break from chemicals and plan on taking 75mg each of 2C-C at an upcoming party. Normally, I am against taking substances at parties, but it feels like the right time and place to do so, and also the right substance.

Don't do what we did, we both are "hardheads" with psychedelics under normal circumstances, as we both used to eat chemicals quite a bit, and oddly enough, after this experience, I feel like I got so much that I need to give it a rest, and any "addiction" whether psychological or physical, has been removed. I am even working on quitting smoking, a choice that I made that night, which in itself is an amazing revelation.

We both took extremely high doses of these chemicals and we both feel that for someone who isn't as accustomed to them, it could be potentially dangerous, especially at those doses. We got our psychedelic asses kicked and loved every minute of it. Your mileage will almost definitely vary, and you may not enjoy the intensity that we experienced. We both love extremely intense experiences and this trip rivalled all of my previous trips for intensity, visuals, and mental component. In fact, it was my most powerful trip as far as the mental goes, and it took my 35mg 2C-E trip down a notch or two, to give you an idea of how powerful it really was.
 
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Yipes, glad you made it. Not very wise decisions, but I'm sure you know that.

Next time though...please don't drive. If you wanna kill yourself with tons of drugs thats one thing, but when you get in a car and SPEED down the road you could be taking out innocent people with you.

Please remember that next time.

Glad you enjoyed yourself
 
Nice report! I'm not gonna bother writing my own since you pretty much covered everything, and very well. (I am "M" in the report, for those who don't know)

I will add the exact doses of everything I took:

30mg 4-AcO-MiPT 9:30AM
45mg 2C-I 12:00PM
58mg 4-HO-DiPT ~6:00PM???
66mg 2C-C ~9:00PM???
50mg 2C-D ~9:00PM???

Yeah kids - don't try this at home!

But I really enjoyed the whole experience and probably will repeat it - ESPECIALLY the 4-AcO-MIPT / 2C-I combination. That was my favorite combination I've done yet - it produced visuals that niether of the two compounds has EVER produced by themselves, and I would most definitely recommend it - although NOT in the doses that I took.

And for those who want to scold and preach to us about the lack of safety in our choices - don't waste your breath, I don't want to hear it.
We know our systems very well and know how much doses we can handle with these compounds, and like he said, we are both hardheads when it comes to this stuff. Once again - DON'T DO WHAT WE DID.

:)
 
MattPD said:
Yipes, glad you made it. Not very wise decisions, but I'm sure you know that.

Next time though...please don't drive. If you wanna kill yourself with tons of drugs thats one thing, but when you get in a car and SPEED down the road you could be taking out innocent people with you.

Please remember that next time.

Glad you enjoyed yourself

Yeah, I agree on the car thing, the 2C-I and AcO messed with my head a lot more than I thought they would, but everything ended up being okay. It should be noted that I can drive under the influence of almost anything (except high doses or any alcohol), though I prefer not to. This time, it really nailed me in the ass, and I'm not claiming it to be responsible. I was very lucky that I didn't hurt myself or anyone else.

However, traffic wasn't very bad, and I was in fact driving better than most of the jackasses on the road, as Colorado drivers are piss poor when sober, and I could tell that even though I was speeding, I wasn't weaving in and out of my lane, like most everyone else.
 
Skrilla said:
Nice report! I'm not gonna bother writing my own since you pretty much covered everything, and very well. (I am "M" in the report, for those who don't know)

Hahah, lazy. :P

Actually, that's the best trip report that I've ever written, and I'm very impressed with my ability to remember the trip. I have a visual image of everything that happened burned into my memory.

This seemed to have not affected my memory at all, unlike just about every experience that I have with a drug by itself, including the AcO, and especially the 2C-I. Quite a synergy this combo seemed to have, and I will definitely be obtaining some more 2C-C at some point and probably more AcO, but I'm definitely going to be combining the AcO with more things in the future. Good stuff! And the sweet, almost brown-sugar like taste is very pleasurable, unlike most bitter chemicals. :)

Look for more 4-AcO-MiPT combinations in the future folks, but it will be at least a month and a half before that happens again.
 
the AcO, and especially the 2C-I. Quite a synergy this combo seemed to have

MOST definitely... My favorite combination so far. It even made the 4-HO-DiPT work MUCH better than it did last time (and the 2C-C).

Quite the trip...
 
MattPD just said what I was about to, otherwise sounds an interesting experience, but the driving part is quite stupid.

It is nice to see these higher end trip reports as well.
 
I just got a PM asking me if I would do it again...

Yes, I would, but there are some reservations... I would probably lower the dose of 2C-I maybe 30mg or so, and I'd take the AcO right when I feel the 2C-I coming on so that the peaks would coincide.

And I'd take more HO, about 55mg, and more 2C-C, about 65mg or so.
 
Nice report Magickalkat, I will add something worthy when I have some spare time. :)
 
In retrospect, does anyone think that this is such an irresponsible experience that I shouldn't have even posted it? If so, I am going to delete it entirely tonight, I just want everyone's opinion on it.
 
It's so long post and I think you spent much time writing it so why delete it?
Not everyday you can read this long and interesting post. Maybe it were irresposible but since you said you know your limit then why not.

Nice post:)
 
The only part I saw as being truly irresponsible was driving on the substances.

Combining that quantity of drugs prolly wasn't the best idea, but you do caution others against it.

The report was well written (I enjoyed it) and you obviously spent a good deal of time on it, and it was interesting. I'd say leave it be.
 
I definatly agree that 2ci and 4acoMipt make a great combination. A couple weeks ago I actually tried the combo that you said you plan on doing next time, 30mg 2ci and then the 4acoMipt about 2 hours later. It was by far one of my best experience with 2ci, and hands down my best experience with 4acoMipt. Although it wasn't terribly intense, it had a very nice, reassuring mental aspect to it. I would like to through some 2ce in for good luck some time;)
 
^Re:2c-i dosage: I've gotta ponder the purity of your samples. I can't even imagine 30 mg. My perfect dose is around 12-14, the result of which is massive visuals ramping up in leaps and bounds and peaking at around hour 4, and an almost unpleasent stimulant effect for the first 2 hours. Gods, 20 was intense indeed. I just can't imagine 30mg, what is the draw of such a high dose?
 
It's just hardheadness. I don't blame you for questioning the purity, but I samples from two different sources and have had the same dose response curve for both. Same goes for 2ce. I suspect they are also from different batches because they were definatly different densities. In addition, all the other chemicals that I have recieved from these companies have been up to par. I have a sample on the way of 2ce from a third source, so we'll see how it compares. As for the draw for high doses, just to get to the same place you get on 15-20mg. It would be nice if it was a purity issue and not a natural tolerance...
 
Thanks for the comments everyone, I just got a little upset because of a few personal attacks made against me on other posts based on my trip report.

As for the high doses, both subjects in that report are hardheads, with about the same tolerance levels for these substances.

I've had 2C-I from 3 different sources and it was the same each time... 20mg was too much one time, but tolerance went up quickly, so I started needing more.

I'm also glad to see that someone else enjoyed the 2C-I/4-AcO-MiPT combination. They just blend well together, it seems.

Dare I say that I look forward to future 4-AcO-MiPT combinations, albeit with more care taken next time.

Anyway, the report will stay, I just wanted to get everyone's opinion on it. :)
 
It's just hardheadness. I don't blame you for questioning the purity, but I samples from two different sources and have had the same dose response curve for both

Yup - same here. Some people just need more to make it worth it. Myself and MagickalKat777 both enjoyed the higher dosage, and our 2C-I was from different sources entirely.
 
I have heard of bad big batches of 2C-I when it first got real cheap, but I think it's pretty hard for 2C-i to degrade even just in a baggie. It would still last years imho. Out of direct sunlight would be the best storing location.. But the tryptamines.. that is aniother story, they can just degrade with age, pretty easily.

This is a very interesting report, if all the doses are correct, because of the high doses and combinations. I wouldn't of chosen those same doses, as you could of probably gotten away with maybe halving a few of the chemical doses, because all the drugs potentiate each other.

Not gonna talk about the driving thing, it's been covered, but yeah, certainly isn't condoned by Bluelight :p

Thanks for sharing, you were brave to post this and I respect that.
 
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