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(2C-I/28 mg)+(MXE/20 mg): Experienced: Stunningly powerful!

Saucy

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So I'll start this report with a little background info. I don't get to see my Girlfriend very often (we live nearly 2000km apart), but we are both working professionals who enjoy cannabis, psychedelics, dissociatives, and enactogens. She smokes considerably more cannabis than I do, and I use psychedelics and dissociatives with much greater frequency than she. We probably "roll" with roughly comparable frequency.

Two weekends ago (sorry I am writing this with such delay, but I jotted down a LOT of notes at the time so I can swear to a high level of accuracy in this report.), we met up for a five day vacation together. We wished to kick off the first night with some fantastic sex, but I was not confident in the purity of the MDMA I had, and she generally will not take any drug than has not been tested for purity. What I did have, however was 99.1% pure 2C-I, which we both dosed in considerable quantities (me: 28mg, her: 22mg). She was fascinated with Methoxetamine, to which she had never before been exposed, so we each took 20mg on top of the 2C-I to potentiate the experience.

I'll skip over the juicy details, but the sex was fantastic. Better than anything either of us had experienced on MDMA/MDA alone. We cuddled and talked for a little while after finishing up, and at [t+4h], I took 1600mg Piracetam, thinking it would significantly boost the effects of the 2C-I, and kill off the residual MXE effects, which had largely faded anyways. What quickly ensued was something I did not expect in the slightest.

Within minutes I began to trip with incredible intensity; easily a strong +++. But what was truly remarkable about this was the subjective nature of the trip, which was characterized by strong dissociation and repeated out-of-body experiences, rather than the expected potentiation of 2C-I's effects, and an expected lessening of the residual effects of the methoxetamine. Perhaps most surprising of all, was that multiple times I experienced a total loss of knowledge or memory that I was tripping, something that hasn't occurred for me in years, despite numerous high-dose combinations of dissociatives, serotonergic psychedelics, total darkness, and psychedelic-themed music etc.

I was tripping too hard to function in any realistic way, and was supremely glad to have my girlfriend there to comfort and ground me. I would repeatedly become lost in dream-like experiences, and snap out of them feeling very disorientated.

So my primary thought on this experience, is that some sort of unexpected interaction between the methoxetamine and the piracetam (taken 4+ hours later) must have occurred. I have taken 48mg 2C-I + high-dose piracetam (there's another trip report up on bluelight about it) and this was NOTHING like that. There is no doubt in my mind that the remarkable phenomenon I experienced would not have occurred without the methoxetamine in my system.

I'm looking for any thoughts or speculation on what might have happened here.

Thanks in advance everyone!

P.S. I will have an update with some speculation of my own coming in a few days.

-Saucy

dissociative/racetam interaction
 
Interesting report! I have never heard of anyone using 2c-i and MXE in a combo before. As everyone knows be very careful when combining RC's as the interactions may be different from person to person. Be safe and have fun!
 
^Really? I personally know several people who have combined the two (or have combined MXE with other 2C-Halides). Because the 2C-Halide string of psychedelics induces their effects primarily through action on 5-HT-2c, as well as combined low efficacy agonism and functional antagonism of the 5-HT2a receptor. There has never been documented action of any drug in this class of compounds acting as either a serotonin releaser of an inhibitor of serotonin reuptake (although the production of mild enactogenic effects may lead some to wonder), so it should not pose any danger when combined with MXE. Moreover, 2C-X compounds definitely do not act as inhibitors of dopamine reuptake (as is the case with bk-MDMA and MDAI, which I believe are then only two reported so far to distinctly negatively interact with MXE).

Personally, I can say that 2C-I, and 2C-C combine quite well with methoxetamine, although they certainly lack the wonderfully smooth synergy of combining MXE with a simply tryptamine, like 4-Aco-DMT, or DPT. (Which I "coincidentally" also have a report on the combination of all three up on BL, which can be found here: MXE + 4-Aco-DMT + DPT)
 
I would be really interested in trying DPT with 4-Aco-DMT after reading that report. I think you misunderstood what I was saying. This is a harm reduction board so telling people to use caution when combining RC's is solid advice. I have seen people take 2 hits of LSD and lose all grasp on reality, while I could handle all of my psychedelic adventures minus Salvia.
 
^True, but I can't see a lot of MXE virgins jumping right into high-dose combinations with strong tryptamines and phenethylamines.
 
Just to add my own experience, the last bit of MXE i had purchased something similar happened although in lesser intensity. I usually take 300mg of a-GPC daily along with acetyl l-carnitine and niacin. For the weekend of primary experiences with MXE, I had abstained from these brain chemicals to prevent any interaction with the MXE or DPT (which was faithfully combined with MXE at various intersections).

About 4-5 days after a slue of ridiculous experiences with MXE, and still off my choline regiment, I introduced my significant other to rectal dosing. I also imbibed in the experience, combining DPT. This was a fine experience, if not underwhelming.

A few days later, I had taken my usual dose of choline and decided to finish of the MXE to enjoy a day off. This was ridiculously intense for the quantity consumed (rectally). I would say it was a 3rd of the amount done in combination with DPT, without DPT entirely. Overall I felt effects well into the night (nearly 10 hours after dosing) and the effects on overall motor functioning was similar to a low dose of I.M. ketamine throughout. My ability to speak fluently came back about 8 hours post dosing, and the psychedelia was pronounced.

I currently have more MXE en route and surely will experiment with this further, especially with piracetam now that someone else has had an atypical experience.

To note: I am very experienced with dissociatives and this choline/MXE combo was probably the most difficult to do normal activities on.
 
MyExcuse-

Thanks for the input. Hopefully we will eventually have enough data on these bizarre and unexpected interactions to get some indication of a trend among them.

FYI, I took 1000mg of Choline Citrate at the same time at the 1600mg of Piracetam I discussed in the OP. I hadn't even thought to mention it since I always take my Piracetam with Choline, and I assumed that the choline would not interact with either of the primary drugs (MXE and 2C-I) on a notable psychoactive level.
 
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