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2C-E vs. 2C-I (in a social environment)

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I've had my fair share with 2C-E and it always leaves me with this feeling of despair or loneliness. I enjoy the substance, but that's just one of it's attributes. There are certain occasiojns for it.

A friend offered me 25mg of 2C-I, so I put it in my wallet for later.

Now, the times I did 2C-E, I ate it and it hurt my stomach REALLY bad so the next few times I snorted it and it hurt pretty bad too (it's like an electrical sting that lasts about twenty minutes but can ruin an entire trip). Both of the times on 2C-E were decent.

Tomorrow I'm planning on taking the 2C-I at a friends local get-together (probably no more than 20 people there max). But I'm wondering whether I should take it orally or snort it. I've heard that 2C-E is worse on your stomach than 2C-I, then I hear the opposite effect about the other routes (2C-I hurting the nose more than the stomach); whatever the case may be, I want to to do it the way with the least gastro-inestinal problems. I've already got weak stomach (hiatal hernia) but for some reason that time I ate the 2C-E, it just felt like I needed to get that out of my system as quickly as possible.

Is 2C-I the same way when you take it orally? I really don't want the face grabbing and the tingles and all that, but I don't want a stomach ache all night either or end up in the bathroom for hours.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
 
I've tried 2c-e nasally and orally & 2c-i only orally. I would recommend just eating the 2c-i. I don't remember nearly as much of a body load as I got off of 2c-e. 2c-i was a lot more 'fun' as well, my girlfriend and I remarked how easy it was to even be inside a grocery store while tripping; something any experienced tripper knows can be an absolute hell hole on a head full of shrooms or acid.

Then again, if you think you're gonna have stomach problems, and then you take a psychedelic, well, you know...mind over matter.

Perhaps you could try plugging?
 
Hahah, I knew the mind over matter saying would come up about the stomach ache, but I take specific medicine and ginger root for it, so it's not something always lingering on my miind.

I would definitely consider the plugging route but I don't have a syringe, just have 00 capsules, which I was told not to use by a lot of people because of it being a waste or something.
 
Well, it's a personal thing but I can bear 2C-I snorted. And I'd go for 2C-I taken nasally, it's much more sociable than 2C-E. I'm not saying it must be better for everyone (although I personally prefer 2C-I to 2C-E) but 2C-E can drag you into the experience very deep and I find its bodyload stronger than 2C-I's. Psychedelic phenethylamines with a halogen on the para position are quite sociable (as much as psychedelics can be), well not counting in the very weak 2C-F. Definitely more than drugs with alkyl chains on the para position.
 
^ You can vape these chems? Do you vape them as is (I.e. the HCL salt?) or do you have to freebase them? I never heard of them being vaped so this is why I ask. Is this a safe method? How does the dosage compare to oral?
 
I heard and seen horrible things about vaporizing 2C compounds. I saw it done once actually with foil and a straw and all I saw was a purple flash with my friend throwing his hands in the air.
 
^yeah, I haven't really heard of anything positive in the way of vaping and that's why I asked as it seemed odd that it can be takin that way but maybe I've missed something and it's possible!?
 
I would take 20 mg max unless you've done it before. At a dose just below that I was a pretty jittery.
 
What do you mean purple flash and he threw his hands up in the air??

It usually just billows a fine vapour when lit.


yes, I've smoked the HCL salt being as how I don't know how to properly freebase the 2c compounds.
It works well, if you have 25mg of 2c-I you should be able to just vape like 5mg every couple of hours and be set, I wouldn't do 25 all at once though unless you want to jitter your ass off in the corner of the room in complete euphoria for a few hours.

see my thread about 2c-c
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/585308-2c-C-vaped-smoked
I mention all the 2c compounds I have smoked/vaped
 
Thanks Devourer....will have to research more!!! So what you are suggesting is to vape say 2C-I in 5mg intervals until effects are achieved?
 
adder said:
Psychedelic phenethylamines with a halogen on the para position are quite sociable (as much as psychedelics can be), well not counting in the very weak 2C-F. Definitely more than drugs with alkyl chains on the para position.
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Do you have any links to more information about this, or can you expand a bit on any consistent structure/effect pairings in phenethylamines (or tryptamines, even).
 
<<ellisd>> said:
Thanks Devourer....will have to research more!!! So what you are suggesting is to vape say 2C-I in 5mg intervals until effects are achieved?
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Yes, I'd start out by putting between 5-10mg in a folded piece of foil kind of in a thin line, and then make your way down the line untill you reach decent enough effects, you then have 15 more mg to consume later to boost your trip when you come down.

You'll notice effects almost immediatly, but give it a few seconds before you vape the whole damn line, or it might become overbearing...

12mg of 2c-e vaped was hard for me to get through the entire line, though 2c-I seems to be more mentally forgiving, it does tend to get jittery.



edit: if you want the maximum out of it, try not to exhale as this is vapor and not smoke!!
 
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I do not recommend this method for a few reasons. Iodine can release some pretty nasty stuff. Also, if down wrong, the foil is going to go up into flames. Lastly, you'll probably end up burning your mouth with sweetish purple smoke and not even get that 'fucked up'. That's just my opinion though, I'm sure people will keep doing it.

Thing is, I'd like a 2C-I trip WITHOUT the jitters. That's actually one of the downsides to almost all of the PEAs I've tried, just that nonestop stimulation. To me it's just a cause for a panic attack and reason to 'abort' a trip.

That's why I was suggesting plugging it, does anyone have any info on that matter?

Most other PEAs have less dangerous substitution; bromo, chloro, methyl, ethyl. It's when you start getting to the 'colorful' ones when the fun begins.
 
If you really really want to do 2C-I in a social environment, then I would recommend doing low to moderate doses: 12-18 mg. But actually, lay off 2C-I for a while until you are in a private comforable setting.

As for the vaped 2C-I, I read the post of any major dude, telling that it is definitely not the best ROA for this chemical.

PS: 2C-I > 2C-E for social setting.
 
Thank you so much allium, that was pretty much just the post I was looking for. You definitely meant orally and insufflated, right? Oh and when I say social, I didn't mean a club setting or anything like that.. It's going to be a big barbeque in a backyard with a bonfire and stuff.
 
What can the stimulation be compared to, in moderate doses (15mg-22mg)? I'm not a fan of stimulation at all and it was on the reasons I tend to stay away from PEAs. I just don't want to be walking around sweating my ass off or feeling like I just smoked a big ass bowl of ice or something, I'm hoping it to be moreso like dextroamphetamine than anything else). I already have a slight anxiety problem, I just don't want to be holding my chest gasping for air like it's my last breath).
 
Hmm, I'm not sure what to compare it to since I don't do many stims. The first time I did 2c-I was at a gathering of people I met on an entheogen website. I'd met them all in person the night before but have 'known' them online for about 10 years. I'm an shy, anxious person and I had an amazing time on 20 mgs. You should be fine, especially if others at the bbq will be tripping along with you. The initial stimulation gives way to a nice inner warmth. Just go with it, don't fight or resist it and before long you'll feel a nice euphoria and empathic connection to others.
 
2c-I is jittery, stimulating yes, but not the whole heart pounding running around in circles sweating kind of stimulating.
I find it easy to sit somewhat still while on it, but it's still more energetic than the other PEA's i have done.


I don't see how you could fuck up vaping the stuff?
I know some pretty dumb kids that vape oxycodone and they torch the shit out of the foil, with no 'foil explosion' as you describe above.

it should only take a few flicks of the lighter to get it to vaporize...

when I smoked 2c-I i did the weed-sandwich technique similar to what a lot of people do with DMT.
packing the bowl with weed, putting 2c-I on top of this, then placing more weed over this, hover-hitting in attempts to vaporize, then cherrying the bowl and taking the rest from there.


I still feel like you're going to get gastrointestinal discomfort if you plug it, also being as how bad 2c-I burns, I couldn't imagine wanting to keep it up my ass for any longer than a few minutes.




Smoking is the way to go in my opinion, or maybe it's just my cup of tea.
Try it if you'd like, let me know how it goes :)

EDIT:
Also, as other users noted, you wont be too hungry on the 2c-I, so perhaps you should eat beforehand (assuming youre not taking the oral dose) just so you don't look out of place not eating, waste food, feel like shit because you havn't ate and can't eat.. etc
 
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