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Phenethylamines [2C-E Subthread] 2C-E Dosage and Methods of Administration

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You should put some weight on the scale first, like a small piece of weighing paper. Once weight has registered, just add your powder and do the math, scales are usually more accurate like this, the low end digits fuck up.
 
I've found two things when weighing drugs on scales. First, as Dragynfyr says, sometimes the bottom threshold of weight just won't do anything. Second, it works a lot better to add powder to the tray when it's off of the scale, and then put it back on. Sometimes if the weight changes while it's on the scale, especially only by 5 or 10mg, the scale won't register it, but if you take it off and then put it back on it works just fine.
 
It must be some weak 2ce, 20 mg will have me floored. The nausea and puking was probably not helped by drinking the alcohol.
 
i've been enjoying walks in the snow on 2c-e.
watching planes fly by the apartment has been incredible, too.
listening to music. sex. i really recommend sex.

does anyone know if 2c-e is able to be absorbed through the skin, ie - dissolved in water? i spilt about 10mg on myself the other day and had a particularly strong trip. although, the 15mg i ingested could have done it alone. just curious.
 
Iv/im 2c-e

I am going to finally have the opportunity to try to chemical tonight and was wondering if anyone here as IV/IM'd it? Its my birthday today (22 woohoo~) and went out to the bar last night and got plastered. So my stomach is upset today so I really don't want to take it orally. Not really feeling like snorting it (for the pain) or sticking it in the pooper.

I want a strong experience and would like a nice rush, so what kind of dose would I be looking for? Haven't used a psychedelic in awhile, and want a memorable experience.

I also would like someone to answer the same question for 2C-B cause I might be trying that soon as well.
 
damn I just typed out a response to your thread but it must have just been moved!

sigh... here goes slightly shortened version for the public (I'll tell you more later Jykke).

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! Woohoo!!! =D

Do NOT IV 2CE. There have been some troubling experiences with this route and heart/chest pain.

I have been pondering IMing 2CB or 2CE for some time. There is a good report out there of a guy IMing 2CE (search terms maybe tent+IM+2CE iirc).

If you IM 2CE do it in increments. IM perhaps 3-4mg first and wait about 20-30 mins and then IM another 2-3mg and wait another 20-30 mins. Then if you need more IM a bit more (have these increments measured out beforehand).

Search this thread for some GREAT advice member Fastandbulbous gave me (I think last spring sometime) about doing this with rectal dosing. He talks about peak plasma levels and all sorts of neat things :)

I've done this incremental thing rectally with 2CE twice now (and with 2CB a few times) and it works WONDERFULLY. For me, it makes 2CE MUCH MORE euphoric and pushy (in a good way). It reminds me a LOT of MDMA (much moreso than oral 2CE, which strangely acts like LSD to me).

I think the rate this chemical absorbs has a lot to do with its monoamine releasing properties (this chemical has been proven to release and modulate uptake of serotonin, dopamine, and norepi).

I think IM will be THE way to go once you are familiar with dosage and whatnot. You MUST start conservatively, but with incremental dosing you will very likely not miss out on a chance to trip out HARD! ;)

I'll tell ya more later on...just trying to recapitulate the main points of my post that was just lost for others interested (grr!).

peace and hugs!
samadhi
 
A friend recently IMed ~9mg of 2CE divided up into two doses spread out about 30 mins.

A few minutes (like 3!) after injecting the first dose he noticed something in his body and pointed to his heart saying he could feel it already. That feeling quickly went away and we went upstairs and chilled. A bit later he injected the second half and then sat back down. He then said he started noticing fx and said he was starting to get sick. He went and puked and then came back out. He went and puked again.

Then he came and sat down and had a very awesome amazed look on his face, waving his hand in front of him and commenting on the visuals all around the room.

Hopefully he will comment a bit (but I understand if he doesn't).

I just wanted to get that info out there as not many people have done this. Originally he was gonna do 12mg (one more third dose of 3mg after the first two), but he decided when the first one started coming on that 2 doses were enough.

peace,
samadhi
 
Hey, I plan on taking 2C-E this weekend, and was wondering what a recommended dose is for myself, having never done it before, and a few friends of mine.
Also when weighing it in a milligram capable scale, what should I use as a boat to measure it in, 500 mg of 2C-E, though a lot of trippin' is not that much substance.
 
14mg will totally rock your world bro... have some whippits on hand! It'll be a blast!
 
Erebus-: I'm surprised your milligram scale didn't come with an appropriate tray; I've had three so far and they all have come with one. Anyway, past that, there are a couple of things you could afro-engineer. I believe Shulgin always used a piece of paper, although I'm not sure how effective that would be as I suspect some of the powder would stick to the paper. You could cut off the bottom half of a pop can and turn it upside-down.
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Well I thought I could come up with a bunch but I can't, hope that helps! :P
 
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a bit of tin foil always works for me, it usually comes out to be about 70-100mg of tin foil for a square big enough that will prevent spills.
 
I usually use a thin piece of posterboard, cut with scissors for a clean edge. I fold it down the middle to help keep everything on the little makeshift tray. If you want you can slice little bits off until it reaches a nice rounded number. This is because you should not use the tare function to reset the reading to zero. Usually milligram scales do not read well at the low digits. My favorite little tray with this method was exactly 500mg (cut that way accidentally). Then when I want to measure out 15mg of a substance, for example, I put the tray on and put bits on until the scale says 515mg.
 
Since I've already done shrooms twice before, e once and I am doing it again tomorrow night, should I take 15 mg 2C-E or more like 18 to 20 mg. I will have the entire day at my house to myself, no interruptions. I know earlier euphoricnod said 14 mg will do it, but, according to erowid's dose charts, that's on the low side of most dosages.
 
samadhi_smiles said:
A friend recently IMed ~9mg of 2CE divided up into two doses spread out about 30 mins.

A few minutes (like 3!) after injecting the first dose he noticed something in his body and pointed to his heart saying he could feel it already. That feeling quickly went away and we went upstairs and chilled. A bit later he injected the second half and then sat back down. He then said he started noticing fx and said he was starting to get sick. He went and puked and then came back out. He went and puked again.

Then he came and sat down and had a very awesome amazed look on his face, waving his hand in front of him and commenting on the visuals all around the room.

Hopefully he will comment a bit (but I understand if he doesn't).

I just wanted to get that info out there as not many people have done this. Originally he was gonna do 12mg (one more third dose of 3mg after the first two), but he decided when the first one started coming on that 2 doses were enough.

peace,
samadhi
I've IMd 10 mg of 2C-E on 4 separate occasions. Since the peak plasma levels are so much disproportionately higher IM than oral 12 is as high as I'd consider. It's rough, but I'm in the minority that finds the heights of the IM experience superior to oral, and most trips it's all about how far I go (most people are guessing what IM will be like from insufflation or rectal, which is probably a fair comparison.)

I've never puked or even felt nauseous, but as the experience of your friend shows, coming up on that first 5mgs the tension's high; I just don't know what to do with myself. I pace, rub my neck, watch 15 seconds of TV, read half a page from a book, you get the picture. But at the 50 minute point it's all over, probably the 30 minute point if it was injected all at once, which I strongly advise against. The transition to the plateau happens fast enough that I can actually feel myself leveling out like I'm cresting a slow hill, feel the anxiety melt into elation. I think the come up might be easier if I IMd 3.5mg, waited a half hour and did 6.5mg (or even broke it into 3 injections) as once I've waded into 2C-E space the level of anxiety caused by the second dose is not proportional to the first mg for mg, it's far less.
 
Erebus- said:
Since I've already done shrooms twice before, e once and I am doing it again tomorrow night, should I take 15 mg 2C-E or more like 18 to 20 mg. I will have the entire day at my house to myself, no interruptions. I know earlier euphoricnod said 14 mg will do it, but, according to erowid's dose charts, that's on the low side of most dosages.

Its way fucking different than E and shrooms homie. You can always take more right?

Every 2mg effectively doubles the potency of the trip...
 
This past weekend I took Ecstasy on Friday, smoked a lot of pot, then woke up Saturday and took 20 mg of 2C-E. Smoked some more. Lost my mind. And have now regained it. That 2C-E is so strong and intense, the fluidity of my conscience incalculable. Thanks for the help on taking proper measures bluelight!
 
dosage for second trial

I generally have a massive psychedelic tolerance, probably because I was on SSRI’s for many years until eight months ago. For example, 35 mg 4-AcO-DMT only gives me a solid +2 experience and 25mg 2C-T-7 with a 10 mg booster at 2 hours produced virtually no effect whatsoever.

My sole experience with 2C-E was 13 mg and yielded only a +1 experience, with some mild stimulation/body buzz but no real mental effects. I am trying to decide on dosage for another trial. I want a strong, but not shattering experience. I’m thinking somewhere in the 22-24mg range. I know this would ordinarily be considered quite intense, but given my tolerance I would expect it to be very manageable. I know there are no certainties, but I’d be interested in any opinions here.
 
You ought to be careful, because for example I have a higher natural tolerance to certain 2Cx's, but have unusually low natural tolerances to 2CTx's. So even chemicals so structurally similar there can be pretty drastic flucuations (compared to 'average-sized' dosage levels).

Sometimes adding just a LITTLE 2Cx will go a LONG way increasing the intensity. I would say increase a 2-5mg at a time within that dosage range for 2Cx (plus you might not have absorbed all of that 13mg).

peace,
samadhi
 
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