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Here begins my long-delayed 2C-E experiment. After quite a bit of experience with 2C-I, 2C-B, 2C-D, and 2C-C, I've finally decided to give this a go. Perhaps what took me so long is the fact that I don't find 2C-I, 2C-B, or 2C-D to be outstanding psychedelics. But I really do enjoy 2C-C.
And having the impression that 2C-E is the most "serious" of this bunch, I didn't want to take it on a whim. About a year ago I tested 3-4mg of 2C-E just to see if I thought it had good or bad body energy. The result of this experiment was boring threshold effects on both mind and body. Since then I put this chemical on the back burner.
But, most people seem to think 2C-E is better than all the other 2C-x chems I've tried. So what the hell. I was thinking of taking LSD today, but that can always wait
I decided to take 12mg just in case I am more sensitive to this chemical than the average person. Also, I don't feel like an extremely heavy trip today. We'll see!
10:55am
12mg 2C-E weighed on a milligram scale, ingested in a gel cap.
11:25am
There is a phenethylamine in me, I can tell that much. Very minor first alerts.
11:40am
I guess I'm feeling almost a bit sedated. But it is comfortable. My stomach feels fine. Very slight visual effects... like a "softening" of objects and maybe a little bit of movement, are developing. My heart rate is normal, if not slightly relaxed. I'm going to go lie down and put some music on in anticipation of this chemical developing more fully.
11:58am
The ceiling is starting to crawl a bit. My palms are getting a bit clammy. The change in mindspace is still pretty mild, but I do feel a bit stoned. A body feeling is starting to manifest. It feels good, as if some euphoria might be on the way. My stomach feels okay. I think I'm actually a little hungry but I dare not eat anything at this point. With my eyes closed there is "something" starting to happen, but it's completely undefined at this point.
12:05pm
My palms and armpits are getting a bit sweaty now. And I can feel it quite a bit more in my head than just a few minutes ago. Getting off the computer until the next update.
12:20pm
Well, now I am getting a bit more restless. I've gone through several selections of music, and while they do seem "enhanced", they are also kind of irritating me. I prefer silence at the moment. I lit some incense and it made me sneeze, so I put it out. I'm at a good ++ right now, and it seems like it's still creeping on.
Feels very neutral. I am neither especially enjoying myself nor do I regret taking this substance. The visuals aren't especially unique... probably closest to 2C-D (out of 2C-C, 2C-I, and 2C-D to choose from), but there seems to be more stuff floating in the air. Almost like a thin smoke, especially around light surfaces. My body feels fine, and I feel much more awake now. I don't really know what to do with myself at the moment, so I guess I'll just go lie down on the couch.
12:45pm
I'm pretty sure this is fully developed by now. Lying on the couch was actually quite nice. A nice buzz/body euphoria developed and squirming around with a blanket felt pretty good. Mentally, I'm still feeling pretty clear. But definitely analyzing things more than usual. Like, I almost ate a Maalox because my stomach was churning a little (but far from the point of nausea or discomfort), but then I ended up staring at the Maalox for a few minutes and decided to put it back in the bottle.
It seems like I can direct this "trip" into one of several options:
1. Focus on the body energy and enjoy that.
2. Zone out with the visuals >>> which aren't *that* impressive, but unique
3. Analyze random things that normally wouldn't occupy my interest
4. Focus the energy more into my head and get a more "mental" buzz
The neutrality is starting to give way to a little bit of positivity...
Still very easy on the body, although I am sweaty in the armpits and this chemical has turned from mildly sedating to mildly stimulating.
It goes back and forth between a medium ++ and a light +++. Seems to depend on what I'm doing.
1:10pm
Well, I certainly wouldn't have guessed I'd actually want to spend so much time writing about my 2C-E "trip" during the experience. Yet, for whatever reason, I actually seem to "trip out" more sitting here at the keyboard than I do relaxing on my couch or wandering around. So, I guess I'll do away with time-stamping these entries (on the assumption that I've reached the plateau, which it seems like I have). I'll make a note when it seems like it's coming down.
Oh yeah, I was going to mention, this stuff definitely seems to have entity potential. Like, there are flashes of light and other strange seemingly-autonomous visual phenomena that remind me of some mushroom trips or even my pharmahuasca experience at times. I wouldn't be at all surprised if, with a few more milligrams of this stuff, whatever these things are started to really take shape and form.
CEVs are more pronounced now. But still not vibrant or flashy. And nothing really unique there.
OEVs have become more interesting. Almost like the drug (or my mind) realized I could really care less about squirming carpets and ceilings and has adjusted to grab my attention in other ways. Such as colors changing on surfaces, and a very interesting visual phenomenom that seems to come from the "visual smoke" I mentioned earlier. This "smoke" now seems to be rearranging itself into more defined patterns... well, all of a sudden typing has become a burden, so I'm going to wander around and see what's good.
Interesting fluctuations between + and +++ levels of intensity, only minutes (sometimes seconds) apart! Like, I think I could almost snap myself out of this and sober up if I needed to... but then again, I wouldn't count on it...
Hopefully 2C-E isn't as weird with my digestive system as other 2C-x chems can be. I really need to eat something. I think a banana should be a pretty safe bet.
It's a pretty dreary day out. Cold, rainy, with snow melting away into mud puddles. But I found staring out my open window, listening to the sound of nature and getting some breaths of fresh air.... well, I don't know what I found it. Very interesting.... neutral?.... no, definitely "nice".
Oh yeah, I was going to eat a banana.
"Refreshing"! That's the word I was looking for. Maybe I'll actually get around to eating a banana soon. This chemical is actually starting to feel, at least psychologically, more healthy-than-not.
Those bananas definitely needed to ripen more. So I ate a carrot. It was good. "Refreshing".
I am starting to think, as I suspected before even getting started, that I am somewhat limited by my surroundings. I have a small living space and it's a wet, cold, windy, muddy day outside. Looking out the window I experience feelings of synchrocity with all these elements of nature. I would much rather be outside on a nice day with this particular psychedelic.
Music was actually irritating me before.... but I just put on the track "To Sheila" by the Smashing Pumpkins. Damn, that was a good whim! This really sounds quite amazing.
I think this drug is making me VERY partial to slower, more melodic and harmonic types of music. I think as long as I choose which music I listen to with this discretion in mind,... well, it sounds awesome! Perhaps if you don't like Billy Corgan's voice, you might not want to repeat this experiment for yourself.
Music sounds very rich... extra-dimensional, even. Well, I am sitting in the middle of a surround sound setup. But it sounds better, for sure
And a definite wave of euphoria just washed over me... I think I'll listen to this whole album.
Green tea is a good beverage
Feelings of emphathy? Strange, I was feeling decidedly anti-social just a couple hours ago. This chemical seems to have a lot of sides. Gives me good perspective to think about all kinds of things. I don’t feel like going much into my personal life, but I will say that even more difficult / emotional topics aren’t bothering me in the slightest.
It’s now 2:35pm. Time seems to be passing pretty slowly.
The guitar solo in “For Martha” was pretty damn cool!
My mindspace is now somewhat similar to a low dose of LSD… but, more relaxed. But the feelings of openness and synchrocity are there. It is now 3:00pm and I believe I’m starting to come off the peak. But it’s hard to tell because this drug has been hitting me in waves since it started working.
I am impressed at how good my body feels. Any tension is *very* slight, certainly less than very clean LSD or even 2C-C can be. My heart rate is a little elevated, but not to the point where I even notice unless I check. I have a feeling my stomach would be upset if I ate a bunch of greasy food. But my stomach would rather take this over 2C-I any day.
Might as well mention that normally I’d have hit the ganja pipe a couple times by now, but I’m cutting back on my ganja consumption. Besides, I don’t think it would mix that well with the peaceful mindstate of this trip. Why mess with a good thing?
I should also note that any feelings of mental or physical euphoria during this trip were not consistent, but came in waves and tended to be fleeting. It’s strange how this pleasant “buzz” works its way through my body, and then to my mind (right now it seems focused in my third eye), but I certainly have no complaints about it.
4:30pm
Same as I was a couple hours ago. Been chatting online a lot and not paying much attention to the trip, really. I think I'm going to watch some CNN.
4:50pm
Any positive feelings from this trip are pretty much gone. I am now at a +/++, back and forth. I wouldn't mind if it were over now. At this point the residual tension (though minor) and visuals are more of a burden than anything. I have a feeling I'll have several more hours of light psychedelic effects though.
At this point it's not much different from the comedown of 2C-I.
I'm surprised the "positive" part of this trip seemed to take place during only a few hours, though it felt like longer. Tension and heart-rate seem to be increasing slightly as the good psychedelic effects are wearing off.
The buzz still feels nice, especially centered in my third-eye. But I'm not in a very good mood. I find this kind of lingering psychedelic effects to be kind of a nuisance, more than anything. I'd rather be sober... but it's not really a big deal.
Maybe I should turn off CNN...
5:45pm
Watching some Simpsons put me back in good spirits. I'd say the trip is pretty much over. There is a bit of minor residual stimulation and mild jaw tension. My third eye still feels a bit "buzzed".
I don't think there will be much, if anything, to integrate from this experience. It was mostly nice, and mostly interesting. My general impression of 2C-E, at least at this doseage level, is that it is an excellent psychedelic.
However, it would be even better if it were less stimulating. I find the body load overall to be about on par with LSD, but with a bit less tension.
In spite of this, I'm not sure I'll ever take 2C-E again. A low dose of LSD would be more interesting and insightful for me. I also find a low dose of DOC to be generally superior to this, having more euphoria and psychostimulation. Between LSD, DOC, and mescaline every couple years, I think I've got my lengthy trips covered.
I have no doubt that this chemical would be something to reckon with at higher doses. I'm just don't think I need to see this for myself.
Don't get me wrong though, this is an excellent psychedelic! But there are ones that I like better.
2C-C remains my favorite 2Cx
Here begins my long-delayed 2C-E experiment. After quite a bit of experience with 2C-I, 2C-B, 2C-D, and 2C-C, I've finally decided to give this a go. Perhaps what took me so long is the fact that I don't find 2C-I, 2C-B, or 2C-D to be outstanding psychedelics. But I really do enjoy 2C-C.
And having the impression that 2C-E is the most "serious" of this bunch, I didn't want to take it on a whim. About a year ago I tested 3-4mg of 2C-E just to see if I thought it had good or bad body energy. The result of this experiment was boring threshold effects on both mind and body. Since then I put this chemical on the back burner.
But, most people seem to think 2C-E is better than all the other 2C-x chems I've tried. So what the hell. I was thinking of taking LSD today, but that can always wait
I decided to take 12mg just in case I am more sensitive to this chemical than the average person. Also, I don't feel like an extremely heavy trip today. We'll see!
10:55am
12mg 2C-E weighed on a milligram scale, ingested in a gel cap.
11:25am
There is a phenethylamine in me, I can tell that much. Very minor first alerts.
11:40am
I guess I'm feeling almost a bit sedated. But it is comfortable. My stomach feels fine. Very slight visual effects... like a "softening" of objects and maybe a little bit of movement, are developing. My heart rate is normal, if not slightly relaxed. I'm going to go lie down and put some music on in anticipation of this chemical developing more fully.
11:58am
The ceiling is starting to crawl a bit. My palms are getting a bit clammy. The change in mindspace is still pretty mild, but I do feel a bit stoned. A body feeling is starting to manifest. It feels good, as if some euphoria might be on the way. My stomach feels okay. I think I'm actually a little hungry but I dare not eat anything at this point. With my eyes closed there is "something" starting to happen, but it's completely undefined at this point.
12:05pm
My palms and armpits are getting a bit sweaty now. And I can feel it quite a bit more in my head than just a few minutes ago. Getting off the computer until the next update.
12:20pm
Well, now I am getting a bit more restless. I've gone through several selections of music, and while they do seem "enhanced", they are also kind of irritating me. I prefer silence at the moment. I lit some incense and it made me sneeze, so I put it out. I'm at a good ++ right now, and it seems like it's still creeping on.
Feels very neutral. I am neither especially enjoying myself nor do I regret taking this substance. The visuals aren't especially unique... probably closest to 2C-D (out of 2C-C, 2C-I, and 2C-D to choose from), but there seems to be more stuff floating in the air. Almost like a thin smoke, especially around light surfaces. My body feels fine, and I feel much more awake now. I don't really know what to do with myself at the moment, so I guess I'll just go lie down on the couch.
12:45pm
I'm pretty sure this is fully developed by now. Lying on the couch was actually quite nice. A nice buzz/body euphoria developed and squirming around with a blanket felt pretty good. Mentally, I'm still feeling pretty clear. But definitely analyzing things more than usual. Like, I almost ate a Maalox because my stomach was churning a little (but far from the point of nausea or discomfort), but then I ended up staring at the Maalox for a few minutes and decided to put it back in the bottle.
It seems like I can direct this "trip" into one of several options:
1. Focus on the body energy and enjoy that.
2. Zone out with the visuals >>> which aren't *that* impressive, but unique
3. Analyze random things that normally wouldn't occupy my interest
4. Focus the energy more into my head and get a more "mental" buzz
The neutrality is starting to give way to a little bit of positivity...
Still very easy on the body, although I am sweaty in the armpits and this chemical has turned from mildly sedating to mildly stimulating.
It goes back and forth between a medium ++ and a light +++. Seems to depend on what I'm doing.
1:10pm
Well, I certainly wouldn't have guessed I'd actually want to spend so much time writing about my 2C-E "trip" during the experience. Yet, for whatever reason, I actually seem to "trip out" more sitting here at the keyboard than I do relaxing on my couch or wandering around. So, I guess I'll do away with time-stamping these entries (on the assumption that I've reached the plateau, which it seems like I have). I'll make a note when it seems like it's coming down.
Oh yeah, I was going to mention, this stuff definitely seems to have entity potential. Like, there are flashes of light and other strange seemingly-autonomous visual phenomena that remind me of some mushroom trips or even my pharmahuasca experience at times. I wouldn't be at all surprised if, with a few more milligrams of this stuff, whatever these things are started to really take shape and form.
CEVs are more pronounced now. But still not vibrant or flashy. And nothing really unique there.
OEVs have become more interesting. Almost like the drug (or my mind) realized I could really care less about squirming carpets and ceilings and has adjusted to grab my attention in other ways. Such as colors changing on surfaces, and a very interesting visual phenomenom that seems to come from the "visual smoke" I mentioned earlier. This "smoke" now seems to be rearranging itself into more defined patterns... well, all of a sudden typing has become a burden, so I'm going to wander around and see what's good.
Interesting fluctuations between + and +++ levels of intensity, only minutes (sometimes seconds) apart! Like, I think I could almost snap myself out of this and sober up if I needed to... but then again, I wouldn't count on it...
Hopefully 2C-E isn't as weird with my digestive system as other 2C-x chems can be. I really need to eat something. I think a banana should be a pretty safe bet.
It's a pretty dreary day out. Cold, rainy, with snow melting away into mud puddles. But I found staring out my open window, listening to the sound of nature and getting some breaths of fresh air.... well, I don't know what I found it. Very interesting.... neutral?.... no, definitely "nice".
Oh yeah, I was going to eat a banana.
"Refreshing"! That's the word I was looking for. Maybe I'll actually get around to eating a banana soon. This chemical is actually starting to feel, at least psychologically, more healthy-than-not.
Those bananas definitely needed to ripen more. So I ate a carrot. It was good. "Refreshing".
I am starting to think, as I suspected before even getting started, that I am somewhat limited by my surroundings. I have a small living space and it's a wet, cold, windy, muddy day outside. Looking out the window I experience feelings of synchrocity with all these elements of nature. I would much rather be outside on a nice day with this particular psychedelic.
Music was actually irritating me before.... but I just put on the track "To Sheila" by the Smashing Pumpkins. Damn, that was a good whim! This really sounds quite amazing.
I think this drug is making me VERY partial to slower, more melodic and harmonic types of music. I think as long as I choose which music I listen to with this discretion in mind,... well, it sounds awesome! Perhaps if you don't like Billy Corgan's voice, you might not want to repeat this experiment for yourself.
Music sounds very rich... extra-dimensional, even. Well, I am sitting in the middle of a surround sound setup. But it sounds better, for sure
And a definite wave of euphoria just washed over me... I think I'll listen to this whole album.
Green tea is a good beverage
Feelings of emphathy? Strange, I was feeling decidedly anti-social just a couple hours ago. This chemical seems to have a lot of sides. Gives me good perspective to think about all kinds of things. I don’t feel like going much into my personal life, but I will say that even more difficult / emotional topics aren’t bothering me in the slightest.
It’s now 2:35pm. Time seems to be passing pretty slowly.
The guitar solo in “For Martha” was pretty damn cool!
My mindspace is now somewhat similar to a low dose of LSD… but, more relaxed. But the feelings of openness and synchrocity are there. It is now 3:00pm and I believe I’m starting to come off the peak. But it’s hard to tell because this drug has been hitting me in waves since it started working.
I am impressed at how good my body feels. Any tension is *very* slight, certainly less than very clean LSD or even 2C-C can be. My heart rate is a little elevated, but not to the point where I even notice unless I check. I have a feeling my stomach would be upset if I ate a bunch of greasy food. But my stomach would rather take this over 2C-I any day.
Might as well mention that normally I’d have hit the ganja pipe a couple times by now, but I’m cutting back on my ganja consumption. Besides, I don’t think it would mix that well with the peaceful mindstate of this trip. Why mess with a good thing?
I should also note that any feelings of mental or physical euphoria during this trip were not consistent, but came in waves and tended to be fleeting. It’s strange how this pleasant “buzz” works its way through my body, and then to my mind (right now it seems focused in my third eye), but I certainly have no complaints about it.
4:30pm
Same as I was a couple hours ago. Been chatting online a lot and not paying much attention to the trip, really. I think I'm going to watch some CNN.
4:50pm
Any positive feelings from this trip are pretty much gone. I am now at a +/++, back and forth. I wouldn't mind if it were over now. At this point the residual tension (though minor) and visuals are more of a burden than anything. I have a feeling I'll have several more hours of light psychedelic effects though.
At this point it's not much different from the comedown of 2C-I.
I'm surprised the "positive" part of this trip seemed to take place during only a few hours, though it felt like longer. Tension and heart-rate seem to be increasing slightly as the good psychedelic effects are wearing off.
The buzz still feels nice, especially centered in my third-eye. But I'm not in a very good mood. I find this kind of lingering psychedelic effects to be kind of a nuisance, more than anything. I'd rather be sober... but it's not really a big deal.
Maybe I should turn off CNN...
5:45pm
Watching some Simpsons put me back in good spirits. I'd say the trip is pretty much over. There is a bit of minor residual stimulation and mild jaw tension. My third eye still feels a bit "buzzed".
I don't think there will be much, if anything, to integrate from this experience. It was mostly nice, and mostly interesting. My general impression of 2C-E, at least at this doseage level, is that it is an excellent psychedelic.
However, it would be even better if it were less stimulating. I find the body load overall to be about on par with LSD, but with a bit less tension.
In spite of this, I'm not sure I'll ever take 2C-E again. A low dose of LSD would be more interesting and insightful for me. I also find a low dose of DOC to be generally superior to this, having more euphoria and psychostimulation. Between LSD, DOC, and mescaline every couple years, I think I've got my lengthy trips covered.
I have no doubt that this chemical would be something to reckon with at higher doses. I'm just don't think I need to see this for myself.
Don't get me wrong though, this is an excellent psychedelic! But there are ones that I like better.
2C-C remains my favorite 2Cx
