TheTripDoctor
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This is not the first time i have used 2ce, i have used it at lower and higher doses than this, however i believe this to be the one most worth relating. A lot of the times are from memory, though they arent off too much. I wont bother trying to guess which minute each thing occured, rounding up is fine for such small differences.
2am - I took 14mg of 2ce as 1.4ml of disolved hcl salt in 50% ethanol, doesnt taste bad really, the alcohol is more noticable than anything. I have never insufflated 2ce and probably wouldnt, oral tends to work fine for me and in my experience it provides more smooth, positive experiences, in some cases the effects are totally different insufflated.
I started the movie alice in wonderland at this point as well, though i didnt pay much attention to it for a while.
+0:15 i can swear i feel an alert though its subtle if anything, however the feeling is very specific or i would discount it entirely
+0:45 i can feel very slight stimulation, nothing that i would even notice if i were doing something other than talking at the time. Not edgy but certainly present.
+1:15 it starts getting a bit more stimulating at this point, rapidly increasing as each minute goes by. Almost uncomfortable in some ways but still calm.
+1:45 the stimulating effects have peaked from what i know from earlier trips, like i said its not too bad, just uncomfortable, some odd movements but only while already moving, no jerks or tics. No numbness anywhere, no tingling. Feel perfectly fine other than the sense of waiting for something to happen.
+2:15 the more psychedelic effects start in, can think clearly very well, no intense thinking or thinking too fast if that makes sense, other than the stimulation its very calm and quite nice. Things take on a very slightly different hue, perhaps shifting in tint a bit, sometimes things close together appear to move away from each other and then move close and back.
+3:00 stimulating effect suddenly drops off at this point the drug is fully working its "magic"
very calm cool and collected as they say, yet i am still so far gone that i could not hold a conversation with someone face to face, i could not keep my composure in public and i could not convince anyone i was perfectly fine and normal (though im not sure i could convince anyone of that anyway )
At this point i decided to watch Alice in wonderland again (had started the movie when i took the drug as well, but it was over now), not because i have done this before while on psychedelics of any kind, but because i think the bizare characters and the odd sounds and themes will bring out the effects of the drug and perhaps show me how differently i perceive things in this state, not visually or by any of the senses but mentally. And it was fuckin trippy
Needless to say the entire movie is incredible, it seems almost surreal even though it is animation if that makes sense. The themes and the implied meaning in the movie seem to be easy to understand, ive even been wondering if certain parts of the movie were intentionally played out the way they were for hidden effect or meaning, or if i am just making the connections myself absent any basis. Multiple times mushrooms are included in the film, she finds mushrooms in her pockets at one point. One can draw all sorts of conclusions from various parts of the movie, psychedelic or otherwise.
Of course alice in wonderland is a great movie, but after i decided to watch it twice in a row and then skip back to the strange parts a third time, i think some suspicion by parents was in order
at this point it was nearly 6am, so i waited until i had the house to myself and went exploring, i notice certain things seem to have after images in different colors, almost as if they had a multicolored shadow, hanging in midair.
I have intense blacklights in my room so of course everything looks incredible (yea yea it was all intentional i made the room up with neon shit and blacklights for this reason), anything white of course has a glowing outline, but it remains in place when i move my head when the object itself has moved in my vision. Its not a strobing effect, there is only one after image, not a series of images or a trail. I have however been seeing a nearly continuous line of afterimages of things that have moved very quickly, but not everytime.
I notice the words on the screen are shifting back and forth very much, its almost hard to read the Wiki page for alice in wonderland at this point. Icons on my computer are circling in place, that is to say, they are rotating around their true position on the screen while staying in the correct orientation. If i look away for a few seconds, what i was previously looking at on the screen will waver intensesly side to side, more than just a few tenths of an inch. Intense contrasts and bright colors seem to be able to bring out this effect as well as the others easily.
I decided that since i had used this drug a few times and i was familiar with its effects i should at least attempt to walk outside for a while, previous uses of this drug had left me unsure of weather this was a good idea because of the intensity even at lower doses, and as i was unfamiliar with it at the time i choose to stay indoors.
So i got my shoes on, and YES i will get yelled at for this, but i grabbed my gun as well as a kabar (large knife), normally i would have thrown the gunsafe key out of my reach but since i was going outside i had no choice, you simply dont walk around outside at night here without a gun, period. Not because of crackheads, im talking about wild animals. I dont even walk around outside in the daytime without a knife, this is not paranoia i assure you, and not something i did purely because i was on the drug.
As intense as the effects were, i would not have suddenly shot at something for no reason, there just wasnt that type of hallucination present. I can still think very clearly at this point and i would have been able to discern weather i was justified if i had to use it for any reason. Honestly i just put it in its holster and didnt give it much more thought, it was there by my side but i didnt even think about it the entire time i was outside. Its only a .25 handgun but its got enough power for nearly anything i need it for.
Nature is incredible on any psychedelic, for sure. The way they can open your eyes to the way the world works, plants, animals, the weather, can all be felt on a level not possible while sober. Just the way seeing the sun rise as you have seen it thousands of times before, can feel totally new and amazing, everything waking up with life as the light pours over it bit by bit until its glistening and shining on its own.
This time however nothing spectacular, sun was just coming up at this point but other than that it was all ordinary to me. Since i found nothing of interest i went back inside because of the mosquitos at that point, i live on the edge of a dense woods that is the lowpoint of the area, and the middle of the woods is the lowpoint of it, so water collects there and mosquitos turn up like crazy.
I listened to music for a while and started this report, but after a while i looked out the window and it looked incredible, so i decided to walk out front this time instead of the back yard, and jesus was it beautiful, i even took pictures of the things i saw because its beautiful even sober. I can show them if anyone wants to see.
The front yard was incredible the way the sun made patterns on the grass through the holes in the trees, the way the light hit the leaves on the trees, bright intense colors, the field next to the property has soybeans growing, the entire field was a shade of dark green but looked light because of the sun reflecting off the leaves, making it look blue-green. The pond across the street was reflecting the trees just beyond it, shimmering in the light. And there is another field through some trees across the street as well, the dark trees contrasted against the light colored field making almost an outline where they met.
After all this i decided to come back in and rest a bit i was looking around outside for quite a while that time, the bugs didnt seem to bother me, for whatever reason, if it werent hot out and i werent tired i could have sat outside all day and watched the scenery like that.
At this point its +6:42 or 8:42am , i am still getting much of the visual effects, the wavering and the color shifting etc, but i feel i am coming down from the experience itself, its fairly gradual and at least THIS time its hard to tell weather im on or off of the drug, its somewhere in between the whole time, until i realize that its just gone eventually. I think this effect lends itself to integration, where the experience blends itself into the rest of life instead of harshly stopping with a return back to baseline.
I have noticed that 2ce seems to carry on some of the effects for up to 14 hours, +14:00, very slight in some cases but definitely there.
I may add more but i will stop here so i can rest and reflect
2am - I took 14mg of 2ce as 1.4ml of disolved hcl salt in 50% ethanol, doesnt taste bad really, the alcohol is more noticable than anything. I have never insufflated 2ce and probably wouldnt, oral tends to work fine for me and in my experience it provides more smooth, positive experiences, in some cases the effects are totally different insufflated.
I started the movie alice in wonderland at this point as well, though i didnt pay much attention to it for a while.
+0:15 i can swear i feel an alert though its subtle if anything, however the feeling is very specific or i would discount it entirely
+0:45 i can feel very slight stimulation, nothing that i would even notice if i were doing something other than talking at the time. Not edgy but certainly present.
+1:15 it starts getting a bit more stimulating at this point, rapidly increasing as each minute goes by. Almost uncomfortable in some ways but still calm.
+1:45 the stimulating effects have peaked from what i know from earlier trips, like i said its not too bad, just uncomfortable, some odd movements but only while already moving, no jerks or tics. No numbness anywhere, no tingling. Feel perfectly fine other than the sense of waiting for something to happen.
+2:15 the more psychedelic effects start in, can think clearly very well, no intense thinking or thinking too fast if that makes sense, other than the stimulation its very calm and quite nice. Things take on a very slightly different hue, perhaps shifting in tint a bit, sometimes things close together appear to move away from each other and then move close and back.
+3:00 stimulating effect suddenly drops off at this point the drug is fully working its "magic"
very calm cool and collected as they say, yet i am still so far gone that i could not hold a conversation with someone face to face, i could not keep my composure in public and i could not convince anyone i was perfectly fine and normal (though im not sure i could convince anyone of that anyway )At this point i decided to watch Alice in wonderland again (had started the movie when i took the drug as well, but it was over now), not because i have done this before while on psychedelics of any kind, but because i think the bizare characters and the odd sounds and themes will bring out the effects of the drug and perhaps show me how differently i perceive things in this state, not visually or by any of the senses but mentally. And it was fuckin trippy
Needless to say the entire movie is incredible, it seems almost surreal even though it is animation if that makes sense. The themes and the implied meaning in the movie seem to be easy to understand, ive even been wondering if certain parts of the movie were intentionally played out the way they were for hidden effect or meaning, or if i am just making the connections myself absent any basis. Multiple times mushrooms are included in the film, she finds mushrooms in her pockets at one point. One can draw all sorts of conclusions from various parts of the movie, psychedelic or otherwise.
Of course alice in wonderland is a great movie, but after i decided to watch it twice in a row and then skip back to the strange parts a third time, i think some suspicion by parents was in order
at this point it was nearly 6am, so i waited until i had the house to myself and went exploring, i notice certain things seem to have after images in different colors, almost as if they had a multicolored shadow, hanging in midair.
I have intense blacklights in my room so of course everything looks incredible (yea yea it was all intentional i made the room up with neon shit and blacklights for this reason), anything white of course has a glowing outline, but it remains in place when i move my head when the object itself has moved in my vision. Its not a strobing effect, there is only one after image, not a series of images or a trail. I have however been seeing a nearly continuous line of afterimages of things that have moved very quickly, but not everytime.
I notice the words on the screen are shifting back and forth very much, its almost hard to read the Wiki page for alice in wonderland at this point. Icons on my computer are circling in place, that is to say, they are rotating around their true position on the screen while staying in the correct orientation. If i look away for a few seconds, what i was previously looking at on the screen will waver intensesly side to side, more than just a few tenths of an inch. Intense contrasts and bright colors seem to be able to bring out this effect as well as the others easily.
I decided that since i had used this drug a few times and i was familiar with its effects i should at least attempt to walk outside for a while, previous uses of this drug had left me unsure of weather this was a good idea because of the intensity even at lower doses, and as i was unfamiliar with it at the time i choose to stay indoors.
So i got my shoes on, and YES i will get yelled at for this, but i grabbed my gun as well as a kabar (large knife), normally i would have thrown the gunsafe key out of my reach but since i was going outside i had no choice, you simply dont walk around outside at night here without a gun, period. Not because of crackheads, im talking about wild animals. I dont even walk around outside in the daytime without a knife, this is not paranoia i assure you, and not something i did purely because i was on the drug.
As intense as the effects were, i would not have suddenly shot at something for no reason, there just wasnt that type of hallucination present. I can still think very clearly at this point and i would have been able to discern weather i was justified if i had to use it for any reason. Honestly i just put it in its holster and didnt give it much more thought, it was there by my side but i didnt even think about it the entire time i was outside. Its only a .25 handgun but its got enough power for nearly anything i need it for.
Nature is incredible on any psychedelic, for sure. The way they can open your eyes to the way the world works, plants, animals, the weather, can all be felt on a level not possible while sober. Just the way seeing the sun rise as you have seen it thousands of times before, can feel totally new and amazing, everything waking up with life as the light pours over it bit by bit until its glistening and shining on its own.
This time however nothing spectacular, sun was just coming up at this point but other than that it was all ordinary to me. Since i found nothing of interest i went back inside because of the mosquitos at that point, i live on the edge of a dense woods that is the lowpoint of the area, and the middle of the woods is the lowpoint of it, so water collects there and mosquitos turn up like crazy.
I listened to music for a while and started this report, but after a while i looked out the window and it looked incredible, so i decided to walk out front this time instead of the back yard, and jesus was it beautiful, i even took pictures of the things i saw because its beautiful even sober. I can show them if anyone wants to see.
The front yard was incredible the way the sun made patterns on the grass through the holes in the trees, the way the light hit the leaves on the trees, bright intense colors, the field next to the property has soybeans growing, the entire field was a shade of dark green but looked light because of the sun reflecting off the leaves, making it look blue-green. The pond across the street was reflecting the trees just beyond it, shimmering in the light. And there is another field through some trees across the street as well, the dark trees contrasted against the light colored field making almost an outline where they met.
After all this i decided to come back in and rest a bit i was looking around outside for quite a while that time, the bugs didnt seem to bother me, for whatever reason, if it werent hot out and i werent tired i could have sat outside all day and watched the scenery like that.
At this point its +6:42 or 8:42am , i am still getting much of the visual effects, the wavering and the color shifting etc, but i feel i am coming down from the experience itself, its fairly gradual and at least THIS time its hard to tell weather im on or off of the drug, its somewhere in between the whole time, until i realize that its just gone eventually. I think this effect lends itself to integration, where the experience blends itself into the rest of life instead of harshly stopping with a return back to baseline.
I have noticed that 2ce seems to carry on some of the effects for up to 14 hours, +14:00, very slight in some cases but definitely there.
I may add more but i will stop here so i can rest and reflect
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