2c-E deaths in Blaine

ThePharmicist said:
I agree. I got duped by the guy who dealt's friend. Fucking thing could have happened to me and most certainly ALMOST happened to my friend. I don't understand why this asshole decided to misrepresent MDPV as something it wasn't.
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So do you have inside knowledge that this was actually mdpv and not 2c-e?
 
girlygrrl said:
So do you have inside knowledge that this was actually mdpv and not 2c-e?
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I'm thinking there was MDPV there and THAT was the X factor that killed him. I want to see that these coroners looked for MDPV, if they haven't they are terribly irresponsible to be releasing these bullshit alarmist statements.
 
Somebody should call the coroner's office or the parents or somebody so the truth can come out. There must be someone we can contact.

I can not imagine 2C-E making somebody's eyes bleed except at several hundred millegrams or so. Erowid has a story about a guy who ate 100mg and said he tripped harder than any other time in his life but it didn't kill him or really come that close. It was more mentally taxing than physically for him.

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=69307
 
5-HT2A said:
Somebody should call the coroner's office or the parents or somebody so the truth can come out. There must be someone we can contact.

I can not imagine 2C-E making somebody's eyes bleed except at several hundred millegrams or so. Erowid has a story about a guy who ate 100mg and said he tripped harder than any other time in his life but it didn't kill him or really come that close. It was more mentally taxing than physically for him.

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=69307
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No, no one should contact the coroner's office because the truth is already out there. Those at the party have already made statements to reporters and police: There were no other drugs there besides alcohol and the 2C-E that Lemere brought. The 2C-E was analyzed by a lab with access to a GC/MS and confirmed to be 2C-E, not MDPV. Bleeding from the eyes can be caused by head trauma. He was banging his head against the wall. That some guy who is a friend of the dealer is a dick who sells people MDPV as Ecstasy in no way means this guy also had MDPV, he is just ALSO a dick who sold people 2C-E as 2C-I.

Your linked report is to a guy who SMOKED 100 milligrams, then consumed significant quantities of benzos, alcohol, and antipsychotics, and suffered severe symptoms for several days. There have been so few reports of how the 2C's are while smoked that no one knows the difference in bio-availability vs other methods. Frankly, he probably didn't smoke all of it given the difference in melting/boiling point for 2C-E vs DMT. But more importantly, just because one guy did not die at X dose does not mean it's safe for everyone to do so.

News flash: Dead people don't write trip reports. If he had died, his family and the police would have found a huge stash of drugs with no clue which drug(s) he took or how much. Even if the toxicology report revealed what he took, it's doubtful any of us would have ever known. There probably wouldn't have been any mention in the newspapers or police blotter, which wouldn't be in English. His family would almost certainly not have sent a report to Erowid. He would have simply died anonymously.
 
How can kids be so stupid. Anyone who knows anything about Rcs, ecspecially if they are buying them offline. Do your research. You just screwed something good up for everyone. I know I'll be stocking up. But for anyone who kept track of Meph untill it got banned in China, when they banned it in china they dropped 6 new rc's. I will say thats the one thing im excited for. Atlease they didnt get 2cp. 16mg is a legal OD and they all would have been gone.
 
champ said:
I am sorry to hear this has happened.



I am mainly worried that there is a tainted batch of 2ce going around :(
It seems weird that so many people in one group would overdose at the same time--could this be another one of those horrible mix-ups, like bromo-dragonfly instead of 2cb-fly, etc?
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Not weird, Just a bunch of dumb kids using Rc's and not knowing a damn thing about them, of course something bad is going to happen when you take atleast 10 times the normal ammount
 
A pair of identical bills have been introduced in the Minnesota house and senate. Link.

2.34(7) Unless specifically excepted or unless listed in another schedule, any material
2.35 compound, mixture, or preparation that contains any quantity of the following substances:
2.36 Dimethoxy;
3.1 Ethylphenethylamine.
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Well. That's one way to do it.
 
LSDMDMA&9475723 said:
girlygrrrlll all of us teenagers arent stupid
ive done 2CE 3 times, and i was fine
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sorry my intent wasn't to be ageist. its just that some idiots being immature ruin it for everyone else and it seems like teenagers dying is the catalyst to legislate things. because then parents start freaking out and all hell breaks loose. but if kids can't get good drugs to trip on then they'll start tripping on paint thinner or chlorine tablets or huffing duster or whatever instead that is more likely to kill them, while responsible adults get screwed and have to go underground to get their favorite substances.

It's bs like this that was why i wasn't able to get dxm powder until like 5 years after op web tryp /rant
 
lakunajatata said:
A pair of identical bills have been introduced in the Minnesota house and senate. Link.



Well. That's one way to do it.
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The wording of that law makes no sense. It will be completely useless and unenforceable if left the way that it is. I'm pretty sure a non-chemist must have written it.
 
nuke said:
The wording of that law makes no sense. It will be completely useless and unenforceable if left the way that it is. I'm pretty sure a non-chemist must have written it.
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If it passes they will try at least to enforce it and likely pick people unable to play battle of the experts.

Its interesting as I am quite sure there is a decent supply of Dimethoxymethane in my chemical store room at work along with various other compounds that wound be covered under this bill that have no psychoactive quantities whatsoever. My memory makes me think Dimethoxymethane is used as an additive in diesel fuel and is present in all sorts of household items.
 
yeah, this is really upsetting. I've been saying for months now 2CE is going to get banned or something is going to happen with it. Mad ashame. It would SUCK to pass tripping that hard and then have all that happen? :\

I don't see it feasible for this to occur though. such rapid onset and to a quick peak at that wouldn't leave me redosing huge lines. especially after snorting the initial first one. it burns so bad.


ps- llama is a noob
 
nuke said:
The wording of that law makes no sense. It will be completely useless and unenforceable if left the way that it is. I'm pretty sure a non-chemist must have written it.
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I get the feeling whoever wrote it thought that 2C-E consisted of something called dimethoxy and something else called ethylphenethylamine...

Continue my recent interactions with the MN Senate, i've contacted her regarding it. Maybe she'll be smarter than Siebens.
 
When do you guys think the ban will be made final in minnesota ive almost got enough for a 5g bag of it to stock up, 2 months or what.
 
Captain.Acetaminophen said:
A drug being able to kill you is just one factor. People love to say "this new drug JUST KILLED SOMEONE!!!" so what? Tobacco ALONE kills 440,000 people in the United States every year.

So what if 2c-E killed ONE person? Two? Three?

It's a drop in the bucket compared to leaving tobacco and alcohol legal. :\
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i think most will agree captain, but sadly those of us who see it that way dont have much say in what is controlled and what isnt :(

very sad that he had to die that way
 
"8.9 grams is a hell of a lot of 2c-e...makes me wonder how someone so stupid can figure out how to obtain that quantity of product without knowing enough about it to not kill/hospitalize his users."

FOR REAL grrl!

12mg is plenty for me. You need to be careful of dosage with any 2-c. This just seems really burnt to e. But RIP. Let's learn from this people
 
Ms Klobuchar, I beg you, please don't ban a whole series of harmless tools because of some douchebag who sold the wrong rc. judging by biological action, this was probably not even 2c-e (people are saying mdpv, i dont know, but it doesn't seem like a 2c-x). There is no need to schedule any more substances. All that happens is that more deviated analogs are created, with more unknown effects... leave the 2c's alone, and please stop trying to use all this yellow journalism to stir up emotions to have people with pitchforks ready to gouge the chemicals that start with numbers, because they are less known.


Prison industrial complex: why should 2c users be exempt from our rules? or anyone at all?
 
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