This thread it's strictly related to 2C-E, 2C-I and opioids (Tramadol in particular) but I assume it "works" in the same way with other opioids/opiates.
T-2 days:
20mg 2C-E in a gelatin blotter (how am I supposed to call them?) with 1000mg Tramadol (split in 6 hours) with 4-6mg Clonazepam to avoid seizures and 2mg Alprazolam because of muscle tension. 3ug Clonidine was needed to control hearth rate and pressure.
The effects were overwhelming, I could see very nice OEVs, specially colors, everything was painted beatifully, but in particular the CEVs were really intense, and I mean, really really intense.
But I focused in the pleasure of the Tramadol while listening to music on my bed.
I noticed that I had two ways to enjoy the opioid pleasure: the normal one (doing nothing just listening to music while feeling pleasure) and the other way, focus the 2C-E (I don't think I'm the only person in this world who can do this) in the pleasure that the opioid was giving me. I began to feel that as some tunes chaned, the pleasure "filled up" in my legs strongly, leaving me almost "exhaust" of pleasure when the song would end.
Then start again with another song.
T- today:
20mg 2C-I in a gelatin blotter with 1000mg Tramadol again split in 6 hours with 6-8mg Clonazepam and no Alprazolam (almost no muscle tension with 2C-I). Again, 3ug Clonidine was needed to control hearth rate and pressure.
2C-I it's a very friendly substance compared to 2C-E, to the point that it makes me think how wonderful it's the chemistry that just a letter makes such a huge difference.
The effects were never overwhelming, I could see some nice OEVs, some nice colors too, and again in particular more strong CEVs than OEVs definitely.
But I focused in the pleasure of the Tramadol awhile listening to music on my bed again.
Again too, I noticed that I had two ways to enjoy the opioid pleasure: the normal one (doing nothing just listening to music while feeling pleasure) and the other way, focus the 2C-I in the pleasure that the opioid was giving me. But the difference this time it's that the mental process was much easier and almost automatic listening to some songs in particular.
2C-E left me with some hangover, I don't know 2C-I yet, but the times I had do it, it never left me a hangover. And this was amazing if you have a life and have to go to work or college the next day.
In these trips I used large doses of Tramadol (thus, metabolizing large doses of O-Desmethyltramadol, or M1), but again, I'm almost sure the "mental process" using 2C-E and 2C-I applies with any similar opioid/opiate.
Woah! I almost forgot one thing. I don't know if it just me, but I feel particular more smart (like, I can solve things at a lower level) more easily on 2C-I. Sometimes this helps me a lot with my work. This does not happen with 2C-E.
However, because of the potential of both drugs, and no matter how gentle and wonderful is 2C-I, I will always prefer 2C-E. You need to get to know how to mentally handle it, but it possibilities in the human mind and body are... unlimited.
T-2 days:
20mg 2C-E in a gelatin blotter (how am I supposed to call them?) with 1000mg Tramadol (split in 6 hours) with 4-6mg Clonazepam to avoid seizures and 2mg Alprazolam because of muscle tension. 3ug Clonidine was needed to control hearth rate and pressure.
The effects were overwhelming, I could see very nice OEVs, specially colors, everything was painted beatifully, but in particular the CEVs were really intense, and I mean, really really intense.
But I focused in the pleasure of the Tramadol while listening to music on my bed.
I noticed that I had two ways to enjoy the opioid pleasure: the normal one (doing nothing just listening to music while feeling pleasure) and the other way, focus the 2C-E (I don't think I'm the only person in this world who can do this) in the pleasure that the opioid was giving me. I began to feel that as some tunes chaned, the pleasure "filled up" in my legs strongly, leaving me almost "exhaust" of pleasure when the song would end.
Then start again with another song.
T- today:
20mg 2C-I in a gelatin blotter with 1000mg Tramadol again split in 6 hours with 6-8mg Clonazepam and no Alprazolam (almost no muscle tension with 2C-I). Again, 3ug Clonidine was needed to control hearth rate and pressure.
2C-I it's a very friendly substance compared to 2C-E, to the point that it makes me think how wonderful it's the chemistry that just a letter makes such a huge difference.
The effects were never overwhelming, I could see some nice OEVs, some nice colors too, and again in particular more strong CEVs than OEVs definitely.
But I focused in the pleasure of the Tramadol awhile listening to music on my bed again.
Again too, I noticed that I had two ways to enjoy the opioid pleasure: the normal one (doing nothing just listening to music while feeling pleasure) and the other way, focus the 2C-I in the pleasure that the opioid was giving me. But the difference this time it's that the mental process was much easier and almost automatic listening to some songs in particular.
2C-E left me with some hangover, I don't know 2C-I yet, but the times I had do it, it never left me a hangover. And this was amazing if you have a life and have to go to work or college the next day.
In these trips I used large doses of Tramadol (thus, metabolizing large doses of O-Desmethyltramadol, or M1), but again, I'm almost sure the "mental process" using 2C-E and 2C-I applies with any similar opioid/opiate.
Woah! I almost forgot one thing. I don't know if it just me, but I feel particular more smart (like, I can solve things at a lower level) more easily on 2C-I. Sometimes this helps me a lot with my work. This does not happen with 2C-E.
However, because of the potential of both drugs, and no matter how gentle and wonderful is 2C-I, I will always prefer 2C-E. You need to get to know how to mentally handle it, but it possibilities in the human mind and body are... unlimited.
