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2C-E and Bodyload...

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2C-E's body load is a highly unusual one. Several users have described it, roughly, as a "profound feeling of general discomfort". It is sometimes characterized by urges to shift the position of one's body, strong nausea at high doses leading often to vomiting, itching, prolonged tensing of unusual combinations of muscle groups which can occur without the user's knowledge over a long period of time, diarrhea, and an accompanying feeling of "disconnection from one's digestive tract". Other users report little or no body load on 2C-E, and experience instead a strong euphoria.
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Do you personally experience a body load or body buzz / body euphoria from 2C-E?

Do you always experience the same (ie. always a body load, always a body buzz, or sometimes one or the other)?

Any guesses as to what reason some experience a negative body load, vs. body buzz?




Edit: Mods, shoot me a PM if this is a something I should have just put into the Big and Dandy 2C-E thread... I am still kind of new here and don't really have a feel for what is deserving of its own threads or not, I don't want to be clogging up the boards if I am doing it wrong...
 
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It's psychologically dependent for me. I personally like to take 25 mg diphenhydramine to help counteract the body load.

If I'm in a good mood, and especially if I can move around, then it just feels like I have a phenomenal amount of energy coursing through my body. It can be extremely pleasant in the right circumstances.

In one situation, some outside circumstances put me in a nervous mood and the body load felt a bit more twitchy and "cracked out", so to speak.


With regard to stomach discomfort, I recommend putting the substance in a drink and slowly sipping it over 30 mins so it hits the stomach more gradually.
 
^ pretty much hit the nail on the head for my own experience as well.

first time with 2C-E, had only mild stomach discomfort and no vomiting.
second time, was in the morning with a mild hangover and i puked instantly.
since then, i've learned to control the bodyload and it can become incredibly pleasant, like i have 10x the normal amount of skin and i can feel everything i touch with incredible sensitivity. obviously this is a good thing for sex, and a bad thing for interacting with sober people :)

+1 on the gradual dosing as well. 4mg preload @T00 plus the remainder of the dose at T+1 gives a very smooth comeup.
 
Pushed 2c-e up to 14 or 15mg recently & had a very firm +3 on it. I've been experimenting with staggered dosing on the 2c's because it appears to ease nausea on the come-up. Unfortunately I wasn't patient enough & took the second 7.5mg dose after only about 40mins. Had a nausea, vomiting come-up & a very powerful trip with MUCH bodyload. I had that squirming about, can't keep still, random muscle flexings thing. The less pleasant effects eased & the trip got going after about 2 hours & it was an awsome one, but in future I'll leave longer gaps between doses or possibly "sip" a mixture over about 90minutes. I also only fasted for 5 hours & I think if I'd waited a couple more I may not have thrown up.

I'm getting the body-buzz on other psyches & tend to go walking in the park or do something physical to use the energy, perhaps tripping indoors on the 2c-e is less advisable & I shoulda gone walking!
 
Indeed 25mg Benedryl/Diphenhydramine (on the shelf in cold remedies and sleep-aids sections in stores) 30mins before 2C-E completely eliminates the negative bodyload. Almost makes it feel physically euphoric. If you are doing a high dose like 30mg you need more like 50mg benedryl.

Tried and true.
 
Interesting about the Benadryl

Just did prolly about 40 mg last night. Very bad body load, but the fact is that I've been pretty ill lately with abdominal issues. The 2c-e added to that. I was puking all night. In spite of all that still had a very positive experience. Certainly would not say it was fun, but all the puking began to feel like I was purging some of the shit, both physical and emotional/spiritual.
 
My only experience with 2C-E, 12mg. Slight bodyload until about T+1:45, VERY slight nausea for about 5min. Those 5min felt like forever though. Time dilation to the max on the comeup. After those went away, fucking amazing time. Great energy, but not too much. Cant wait until next time =D
 
I normally take 25mg of Benadryl (Diphenhydramine) for doses between 10 and 16mg. 50mg for 17mg+.

Aside from general stomach discomfort my body usually feels amazing. Snuggling up to your favorite blanket and/or person is wonderful, at least for me. I've actually experienced more nausea from 4-AcO-DMT than 2C-E.

I did have a very twitched-out body load when I dosed two days apart one time. Don't know if it has anything to do with tolerance or if it was just my body chemistry/set and setting at the time.

-edit- I'll also mention that after the come-up I generally get quite adventurous with snack foods. Seems like it wouldn't be the thing to do what with the reported nausea and everything but my last 17mg trip my girlfriend and I polished off a bag of skittles, a bad of cheese pretzel bits, half a bag of original lays, and a bag of swedish berries. Stomach felt fine lol. I'll also put this little gem into the back of my fellow psychonauts heads: Yellow skittles = Lemon Pledge Muahahaha.
 
tweakyb said:
My only experience with 2C-E, 12mg. Slight bodyload until about T+1:45, VERY slight nausea for about 5min. Those 5min felt like forever though. Time dilation to the max on the comeup. After those went away, fucking amazing time. Great energy, but not too much. Cant wait until next time =D
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I think 15mg was too much for me, & if I take that dose again I'll probably try spread the doses out over a couple hours & cut them to 5mg at a time. The first time I did 2c-e I took 12mg & had a reasonably pleasant, vom-free come-up though it was touch & go for awhile. Ecellent trip, firm +2, occassionally +3. Another time I had 12mg with 100mg of mdma & the 2c-e stomped all over the mdma & I eventually had to go home, it was too much in a club lol I also had 8mg with 100mg methylone & this turned out pretty fucking perfect!
 
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How many milligrams of diphen ?
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standard recommended benadryl or unisom dosage: 25-50mg depending on your own physical tolerance to these drugs. personally i find 25mg moderately sedating, so i don't go above it.

edit: also, isn't dramamine a prodrug for diphen?
 
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