2C-D - fifth time - wonderful thinking, wish it would last

[fungus44]

2CD - fifth time - wonderful thinking, wish it would last

Had the day off. Some interesting intellectual work to do - writing about photographs - and a beautiful day outside and I thought I might garden.

Had decided to take day off "sick". Woke up 7:30am or so. Got up read newspaper. Spouse is working crazy hours doing media for coming election. Drank licorice tea.

9:30am Took 25mg 2CD, thought it would help me with my brainstorming for a small display of photgraphs.

9:40am Empty stomach. first alerts. Brew mild passionflower tea to potentiate. I have years and years of experience around drug mixing. Very cautious. Take betablockers to prevent high blood pressure.

10:00am Laughing and joking about news. Political news has moral weight and will influence spouse's life. Discuss Iraq, Palestine, government corruption.

10:20 Gather up shopping list - bristol board, unusually sized lightbulbs, blank VHS tapes to tape political news. At the hardware store, a little lost. Trying to figure out all the varieties of lightbulbs. As an extra bought a tiny swiss army knife for keychain. Tiny scissors, knife, tweezers.

10:25am Go to nice photocopy place, make weird photocopies of drawings over text about Zeno's paradoxes.

10:30am Go to dollar store. Find everything intersting but not in a stupid stoner way.

10:35am Home. Garden a little. Irises about to come, cosmos going, sunflowers growing rapidly. Beautiful shades of purple. Go inside. Lightbulbs all correct. Watch awful interviews with different party hacks. Laugh at them. Knew one when he was moderate student leader, I was on radical left. He lost his job.

11am Decide to eat. Ideas are just flooding me. try to write. Too many good ideas. Watch Jay-Z's 99 Problems video. Very powerful. Keep writing but thoughts are colliding.


11:15am Eat bagle, drink water, read old Mad magazine. Jokes seem very obvious, but also kind of good. Some headache, nervousness.

11:30am More writing. Reading about education theory for young children.

12pm Decide to check email, discussion boards. Very smart for a while.


Summary: It's great stuff! I just don't know how to use it yet, in terms of intellectual labor, dose, etc. I was entering pretty trippy zones, just thinking, and spacing out. Thought was lovely. I'd read Spinoza the other night: God is thought + God is extension (stuff) = ???? Maybe a much higher dose would send me further out, or the same dose divided or several hours, to stay a little more present. It felt how I imagined Aldous Huxley's first trip -- a state of grace, a minor satori -- things were as they were as they were, reflections of the infinite, but also just themselves. Gardening is wonderful. Looking at all the shapes of leaves and buds, and trying to decide what's a weed and why. Afterwards, a bit tired

 

[Psychodonovan]

Nice report, but... could you tell me more about how it made you feel? What kind of thoughts you had going through your head?

 

[TheMMT]

[play carefully]

:D

 

[nickthecheese]

^ Bee careful!

Great report, I wonder how long it will be before we see 2C-D marketed as a smart drug?

 

[fungus44]

To respond to Psychodonovan, I felt great! It seems very cerebral but my mood was totally euphoric. Just enjoying thinking, looking at the trees, listening to music, but all quite calmly. There was a certain rush and mild mania but I found I could control it. It really feels like what some of the very religious pantheists talk about. A sense of the infinite and eternal balanced with the everyday. I enjoyed being in the hardware store a great deal and was careful not to giggle at the cashier. The customers and set up (it's a very jammed claustrophobic shop) seemed quite ridiculous and very practical. Basically, I felt very present, even while my thoughts were racing.

I think the funniest part was thinking "Oh, it must be very late!" and it was 11:30am. Don't know what I was late for.

Thanks, nick for the bee careful. I can be a bit goofy/excessive, and carefully weighed drinking the passionflower tea. I would advise people against doing so. I drank it very slowly and had pharmaceuticals that I was familiar with in the event of some kind of toxic reaction. I was also in a very safe familiar setting with sufficient money to meet a sudden need -- food, medicine, taxi, and so on.

I really do think it is incredibly "smart" -- I tend to think of ayahuasca as the smartest, but not in a very functional way. 2CD seems to really lend itself to thinking logically and holistically, not like the the paranoid centrated thinking that accompanies speed or coke.

MMT- I'm getting curious about the higher doses. Let me know if you or a friend go there.

There doesn't seem to be a hangover either, maybe just some tiredness. We eat pretty healthy here, so I think that's a help.

I wonder too if there's some serotonin antagonism to the compound. I'm not too crazy about the big S.

Thanks for the feedback.

 

[Splatt]

Thanks for the post and update, appreciated

I think most phenethylamines would work as a "smart drug", because it gives you that link of creative thought, relation of thought and logic thinking, especially in non-out-there-psychedelic doses. 2C-i was nice at 1-2mg and I found it gave a day-long "study charge" I wanted to be interested and learn in things, and had a nice buzz, colour distortion and euphoria.

 

[Juggalotus]

^^ I have noticed quite the same with low doses, 2-4 mgs, of 2C-I also gave me a nice 6-8 hour buzz, on several occasions. I noticed a bit of color enhancement and a general great feeling all over.

At 20+ mg, I feel it is too overwhelming and has little to offer because of the focus on anxiety and pacing etc...

Then at 16mg, it was just about right. 2C-I is a strange chem, but still worth the experimenting.

 

[Neo1]

Interesting report, Fungus

The nootropic aspect of 2CD is very interesting. You mention that your thoughts got quite 'trippy' at some points, which leads me to wonder if tven taking say, 15mg, might still maintain the 'smart drug' aspect while being under the level required for trippiness.

Your last entry was at 12:00pm. How long did the 2CD last after that?

I really do think it is incredibly "smart" -- I tend to think of ayahuasca as the smartest, but not in a very functional way. 2CD seems to really lend itself to thinking logically and holistically, not like the the paranoid centrated thinking that accompanies speed or coke.

I so agree with the statement about coke. I was round someone's place today and a line was offered, and without too much persuading, I took it. Ok for an hour, then the crash and the paranoia. I really don't like that stuff anymore. 2CD sounds nice tho!

I wonder how tolerant one can become to 2CD's effects at these kinds of low doses. Has anyone taken it daily for any length of time?

Or perhaps it is something to save for a day when one needs an extra "brain-boost" (exam etc.).

Take it easy,
Neo

 

[Mean Girl]

I wonder how long it will be before we see 2C-D marketed as a smart drug?

Always on my wavelength

I must ask though, and since I presume you're not having us on, and I've not listened/watched it, can you elaborate on Watch Jay-Z's 99 Problems video. Very powerful.??

 

[Juggalotus]

^^With you there all the way Mean Girl & nickthecheese. That is:

I wonder how long it will be before we see 2C-D marketed as a smart drug?

Or, will people find out it is an analoge to (OMG!! get ready for this...) mescaline!!! You know the stuff that made the Native americans go crazy and kill the white bastards??

No disrespect, but 2C-D is my Psych of choice by far. And I would love to see it back on the market as much as anybody else.

I just have a bad feeling that when/if it does, people will point out the similar nature to a very infamous comound, and once again it will be taken from us or scheduled.

Much Love

 

[fungus44]

It's funny that this trip report would be back up on the first page of reports. I'd been thinking about 2CD quite a bit lately and theurapeutic uses. I think it makes for a pretty interesting antidepressant. That is related to "smartness" of course, depression is generally a mind fog. I think lower doses spread out can be quite good -- I've tried it, looking through my notebooks they seem full of praise fro the practice, but the experiences don't stand out as massive. Which is as it should be. It's hard to feel smart/good/on-top-of-things while going throught life changing events.

It's not terrifically easy to recall six months later, but i believe I redosed at least once during that day. That seems to work fine. 2CD doesn't seem to have the same "trip" qualities as some of it's relatives -- even compared with 2CI, which I find quite mellow in terms of general freakiness.

Interesting to hear that 2CI is effective at such a low dose. Will give it a try. I quite like its duration and euphoric qualities.

As for the thing about Jay-Z's 99 Problems -- It just seemed like a really slamming song and a powerful video. Don't really know what all of it means/matters, I like my Jay-Z with a grain of salt. My spouse likes the song/video but finds the part of the chorus, "But a bitch ain't one" yucky. We've been working on alternate versions, "I've got 99 problems, but a dick ain't one" I think is the current fave.

Thanks for all the nice comments. Does anyone know about therapeutic/clinical studies being done? I rmemeber seeing some on erowid, but thay didn't seem to be too acceptable for the powers that be.

 

[Jaw Clenching]

cool report