2c-c v.s 2c-e v.s 2c-i

[solistus]

I have a somewhat atypical response, I think, but I've tried both 2c-i and 2c-e at least a few times each on their own and a few times combined, and I find 2c-i to be fairly similar but MUCH less potent than 2c-e. 30mg of -i reminds me of 15 of -e in a lot of ways.

The body highs feel a bit different (I think I prefer -I's but I don't find -E as non-euphoric or 'difficult' as some seem to - it's moderately less euphoric than -I at similar intensities for me). 2C-E has more intense visuals. 2C-I feels like a MUCH more mild version of -E in terms of headspace - neither seems particularly ego dissolving the way tryptamines have been for me many times, but both have a similar sort of speedy mental state, but 2C-E becomes more distracting at higher doses (it crosses the ++/+++ threshold more readily, whereas -I seems more content to rest on the backburner if you choose to focus on other things). I came across -I first, but since discovering -E I have only taken -I as part of a combo - almost any time I'd want 2C-I alone, I'd want 2C-E alone more. Many people find even sub-20mg doses of 2C-E to be intense +++s on par with high dose mushrooms or acid in terms of intensity. I can eat 40mg and still carry on a conversation, at least online, without making it obvious I'm tripping (although the speediness makes me talk even more than usual, hehe).

I've never tried -C but I hear it's even more mild than -I.

 

[any major dude]

2c-e is what I would call "classically psychedelic," on par with shrooms, mescaline, LSD, etc. the halogenated 2c-x's tend to be pretty light on the mind, a bit more "recreational" if you will. I'm not that big a fan of 2c-i, I find it overstimulating per amount of visual/mental effects. 2c-b i haven't had much experience with, but found it underwhelming. 2c-c was the first halo 2c that I liked. Good body feelings, not stimulating, cool visuals. Definitely party stuff, but hey, euphoria's good for a person every so often.

2c-d is similar to 2c-e if the former is dosed high enough. A lot of people miss out on 2c-d because of its lower potency, but its certainly worthwhile material.

 

[FractalStructure]

having never tried either, I'm curious to know in terms of "xtc," would 2ci be more like mdma and 2ce more like mda. and by that i mean the two are similar, one being more social and emotional, and the other being more of a hardcore trip which lasts longer...?

^You absolutely cannot compare the 2c's to "xtc" as you put it. That is a very inaccurate comparison. Neither are like mdma or mda.

Especially with 2c-e, even though there ere effects that definitely resemble those of mdma (mostly in the first two hours, before the serious psychedelia kicks in) the overall experience is that of a full-on psychedelic, much unlike mdma. 2ce can also be an empathogen and can bring you closer to people but in the end its kinda like comparing mescaline to mdma... there are chemical similarities and you can feel similar body rushes, etc. but if you feel like rolling and end up taking 2ce without knowing, trust me, you will KNOW the difference =P

 

[BlueHorseDemon]

^You absolutely cannot compare the 2c's to "xtc" as you put it. That is a very inaccurate comparison. Neither are like mdma or mda.

Especially with 2c-e, even though there ere effects that definitely resemble those of mdma (mostly in the first two hours, before the serious psychedelia kicks in) the overall experience is that of a full-on psychedelic, much unlike mdma. 2ce can also be an empathogen and can bring you closer to people but in the end its kinda like comparing mescaline to mdma... there are chemical similarities and you can feel similar body rushes, etc. but if you feel like rolling and end up taking 2ce without knowing, trust me, you will KNOW the difference =P

I don't think that's the comparison he was trying to draw... I believe he meant

MDA is to MDMA as 2c-E is to 2c-I...

I don't yet have any experience with the 2c's so I can't quantify that, but I'm fairly sure that's what he meant.

 

[jblz]

So is 2C-E gonna agree with a very light hallucinogen user?

I wouldn't mind full on visuals aslong as it came with euphoria and empathy

 

[isotopic_parody]

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Hell no man. 2ce is far from light and definitely won't give you any empathy of the like. Yes, the visuals can be amazing... But that's like a sunset compared to the sun... Yes, the sunset is beautiful... But the sun is what provides life to us all.

2c-e is very cold, neutral, and analytical. Prepare for a very intense voyage into the cosmos that touches you to the core of your being. Treat this with as much respect if not more than LSD. It is serious material!

To the OP: I really don't think any of them are anywhere near the level of 2c-e... Don't get me wrong... I do think the others are good compounds... But 2c-e is on another level.

 

[psychicpsycho]

honestly I get very little visuals off of 2c-e and even when i do get them it is really just a background feature. The mental aspect of 2C-E takes center stage every time. Its usually like oh ya there were visuals I didnt really care though lol too busy wrapped up in my headspace.

Honestly comparing these three chems is pointless they are all very different animals.
2C-I very fun and feeling. The body load matches well with the visuals and headspace. In my opinion this is the most balanced of all the phens. Also no matter the route of administration (oral anal nasal iv im smoked) the trip is always the same there is little potentiation by alternate means which is intriguing because all other chems there is. It is a relaxing experience that beginner to expert can appreciate and pushed high enough in dosage it has more potential than people give it credit. Dont let it fool you.

2C-C not nearly as potent dosage wise but in the 100-180mg dose range it can give some of the best visuals of any of the phens. The body load is absolute perfection. I feel the energy of the sun in me at day and I draw down the moon at night. Headspace is fairly inert but it definitely helps my logical thinking. Say what you want but done properly this one has its moments of stunning beauty.

2C-E many sing its praises because it is amazing. it has the potential to shatter realities for some. For me it has never pushed me that far but I dont feel like i could up its dosage more than I already have (60mg snorted is my max). Its power is immense and its mental stimulation is incomparable among phenethylamines. The visuals i get are usually just a background thing as the mental aspect takes dominance. I can easily explore the outer dimensions on this. Its incredible but that doesnt mean you can say its better than the other two. It really all depends on what your intent for the trip is. Sometimes its not always for that mind blaster. sometimes its just a nice relaxation and for that the other two are perfect