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2c-c v.s 2c-e v.s 2c-i

Yeah but how so? I mean i've had some AMAZING trips on 2c-i. Not much experience with 2c-c, but I have some experience with LSD and lots with mushrooms. How is 2c-e not child's play in comparison to LSD say or shrooms....especially in comparison to 2c-i and 2c-c?

Are you reffering to the fact that 2c-i has the added seratogenic boost to it? In that its child's play? I think of it as a serious psychedelic? Please define child's play?
 
^ I think he refers to the relatively powerful trip 2C-E can induce compared to 2C-C and 2C-I. I'd say 2C-E is pretty much on par with LSD in those terms, in fact I find the 2C-E experience very similar to an LSD trip in many aspects, at least at low to medium doses. Personally, I haven't taken 2C-E in very high doses yet, but from what I hear it can be every bit as powerful and ego-crushing as high dose LSD. 2C-I and 2C-C, however, leave the ego pretty much intact most of the time. Which is not to say they do not possess the capacity to induce mind-shattering experiences - they do, just not as consistently as 2C-E, LSD, and mushrooms.
 
2c-c is psychedelic Valium
and 2c-i is an introverted acid trip...

2c-e stands alone.
i think what you are looking for is
2c-p
 
Do you not think high dose 2C-D bears some resemblance to 2C-E ? Granted it's not as powerful at all, the character of the trip marked by a certain neutrality reminds me of 2C-E. Also, I haven't had a full +++ on 2C-E yet...
 
muie said:
Yeah but how so? I mean i've had some AMAZING trips on 2c-i. Not much experience with 2c-c, but I have some experience with LSD and lots with mushrooms. How is 2c-e not child's play in comparison to LSD say or shrooms....especially in comparison to 2c-i and 2c-c?

Are you reffering to the fact that 2c-i has the added seratogenic boost to it? In that its child's play? I think of it as a serious psychedelic? Please define child's play?
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Well, 2C-E has the potential to completely dismantle your ego and drastically change your whole conception of the nature of reality. It can also be quite psychologically damaging if used incorrectly. I don't think that 2C-I possesses these capabilities -- it can be very intense, but its usually visually and emotionally intense, not ego-shattering.

LSD and mushrooms are in the same 'league' as 2C-E as far as I'm concerned. They are serious business. 2C-I and 2C-C seem like pharmacological toys, essentially, especially in comparison to serious sacraments like LSD and 2C-E. They have much less propensity to be psychologically dangerous like LSD, mushrooms, or 2C-E do.
 
muie said:
Are you reffering to the fact that 2c-i has the added seratogenic boost to it? In that its child's play? I think of it as a serious psychedelic? Please define child's play?
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2c-i is childsplay as far as psychs in general go, one thats rather easy on the mind and fun to use.

iirc 2c-e managed to shake a few people up according to Pihkal...

Shulgin had this to say about it...

"Several people have said, about 2C-E, "I don't think I like it, since it isn't that much fun. But I intend to explore it again." There is something here that will reward the experimenter. Someday, the full character of 2C-E will be understood, but for the moment, let it rest as being a difficult and worth-while material. A very much worth-while material."

2c-i is rather friendly and fun by most accounts, while 2c-e is not so much fun as it can be a learning experience whether you like it or not.... I did 2c-e at a psytrance festival, dose was something like 14mg iirc. It is quite neutral as far as mood goes, lots of thinking.... The visuals were interesting, a bit of MDMA was dropped later into the experience.... Overwhelming urge to cuddle after that.
 
agree with roger&me.

2c-e is a full-spectrum experience whereas 2c-i and 2c-c are somewhat fuzzier, gentler. although they can be taxing they in no way demand of a person as much integrity or strength as 2c-e in order to avoid having a rough ride.
 
Don Luigi said:
Out of the options in your thread title..I'd say 2c-e is most similar ;)

Sorry, couldn't resist :(
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I'd have been hard pushed not to as well :D


I dunno I haven't read the thread but 2CE is pretty much a stand alone chemical compared to it's 2C relatives - 2CI I haven't tried but I've read the reports & it isn't anything I'm desperately trying obtain.
 
B9 said:
I'd have been hard pushed not to as well :D


I dunno I haven't read the thread but 2CE is pretty much a stand alone chemical compared to it's 2C relatives - 2CI I haven't tried but I've read the reports & it isn't anything I'm desperately trying obtain.
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I think i would kind of find 2c-i in itself kind of boring.....

If you have any molly on the other hand.... a little bit of 2c-i (10mg or so) with that and things get very much fun in a very chilled out tripping balls sort of way.... Lots of body load but its not uncomfortable, if you react like i did good luck having any desire to stand up....
 
2C-E does indeed stand alone amongst its halogenated 2-carbon kin. However 2C-C is a wonderful potentiator of other psychs. In fact, I've had it in conjunction with 2C-I (20 mg 2C-I, 30 mg 2C-C) and it made the experience far more holistic than either one independently. I remember the 2C-C also really helped clear up some of the funkadelic body static I often get on 2C-I, which made moving around a lot more comfortable and a lot more fun. I wouldn't say it was by any means an experience equivalent to either of the two I've had on 2C-E, but it was definitely more complete in terms of psychedelia.
 
Yea 2C-C is some much of a relief, it has an amazingly positive body-energy and I totally agree with the description "intense relaxation". In high doses it produces stunning visuals as well while keeping transparant in 'taste'.
 
Personally, I've never gotten anything too interesting out of 2C-C by itself. It has only proven useful for me when combined with other substances (such as 2C-E). I have taken it up to 60mg orally (something that is considered a relatively high dose if I'm not mistaken), and all I really got out of it at that dose was intense GI distress (I was vomiting worse than on 44mg 2C-T-7) and some relatively mild visuals. I would not call this state any kind of relaxation. However, combined with 2C-E, this substance proved very useful for me.
 
bah! 2c-i ain't childs play. try pushing it to 50mg or so. but then at that dose of course it wouldn't. even 30mg does the trick for a very introspective trip that can get a little edgy.

2c-e introspection feels more like you absolutely have to fix this problem in your brain now or it just doesn't feel right. 2c-i makes me feel more apathetic towards the intensity of the problem, i feel better about it being out there and fixed. but in higher doses it can get scary. apathy meets maybe i'm gonna fucking die. it feels like the phenethylamine can take you at any moment. it's nifty.
 
having never tried either, I'm curious to know in terms of "xtc," would 2ci be more like mdma and 2ce more like mda. and by that i mean the two are similar, one being more social and emotional, and the other being more of a hardcore trip which lasts longer...?
 
I have yet to really have any kind of breakthrough with any RC other than 2c-b. but I also tend to play it safe and stay under 20mg

I do like taking small doses, 5-10mg of 2c-i and just chillin out. Maybe I will dip into some 2c-e later on.. mmmmmm
 
Solipsis said:
Yea 2C-C is some much of a relief, it has an amazingly positive body-energy and I totally agree with the description "intense relaxation". In high doses it produces stunning visuals as well while keeping transparant in 'taste'.
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The visuals of injected 2c-c are beyond description. it is intensely relaxing and there is a great body energy to it. I'm coming off a 25mg IM injected experience now.

I'm sure it shares this with other PEAs but I get these little body-orgasms with it. They are hard to describe but it feels like a shudder that comes at the very end of an intense yawn, or swallowing action which can sometimes induce it, followed by a crazy rush in body tingling and visuals get extremely more intense from there on. I was enjoying a succession of these earlier. I'm sure people know what I'm talking about and have a better description or word for it.
 
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