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2c-c -- my three experiences -- similar to shrooms at 50mg

psychoblast

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2c-c

What I'd read made this sound like a mild version of 2c-b, so I decided to give this a try. I have tried it 3 times, each time with weed througout the experience. I am about 200 lbs.

First try was at about 34mg.

After about 20 minutes, I started feeling a little bloated in my stomach, and this stayed with me to varying degrees for a couple hours. An hour or so after ingestion, I felt stuffy headed, lethargic. No euphoria or visuals were noticed. Not impressive at all. Back to baseline after 4 hours of lethargic stuffy headedness.

Second try was at about 50mg.

For the first hour, it seemed the same as the first time, just not much to it. But sometimes after the hour mark, OEV's kicked in and got stronger and stronger, peaking maybe at the 3-4 hour range. Reading became near impossible because of the way the words squiggled and swirled. I thought the "tv listing" channel on cable was doing some weird, trippy thing, but it was just my eyes. Things looked like they were moving and swirling, but I knew they were not. This made me think that the 2c-c had set loose a bunch of little particles that were swimming around the brain cells that interpret vision. This didn't disturbed me as much as it could have.

There may have been some mild euphoria, some mild sensual enhancement, but it was hard to notice. The main characteristics were lethargy and OEV's. I watched Gangs of New York during the come up and the first part of the OEVs and I think the 2c-c helped me enjoy the movie, since it is a very visually rich movie.

At one point I also put on music and closed my eyes to interesting CEVs. At another point I played a first person shooter on-line, and that was a lot of fun. I just liked all the colors so I did not mind losing at it. And I think I did pretty well, considering how all the pretty colors were distracting me. I laughed more during the game and talked more to other players than I have in the past, so I guess this drug can be a social lubricant in the right situations.

I did also do quite a bit of reflecting, and felt like I had some real insights into life and myself. I guess my ego was cushioned because some of the insights were negative but did not unduly distress me. Like one thing I thought of was how everything in the universe is made up of spirals. I don't know if that is true, but it seemed so at the time. And like the double spiral shape of our dna expresses something fundamental about the nature of the universe. The secrets of the universe are found in understanding the qualities of the double spiral.

I think weed stretched out the experience and intensified it when I'd take a hit. After the 4 hour mark, I got hungry and ate some leftover chinese food, which tasted very good. I even added sun-dried tomatoes and olives to the chow mein just to intensify the flavors--a combination I would not have enjoyed sober. Oh, around the 4 hour mark, I had a mixed drink and got very lethargic to the point where I was a little worried I wasn't breathing fast enough and worried if 2c-c increases a body's reaction to alcohol making it a stronger depressant than usual. So I didn't drink much.

My third experience was the day after the second, also at 50mg, to test both my enjoyment of it and to see what kind of tolerance it might have. Similar first hour (some bloated feeling in the stomach, some stuffy-headedness). Felt a little stuffy headed and not much more till I gave up and figured this is a drug you need to space out a while in order to feel it. But around the 3 hour mark I again got the intense OEV's. A picture of flowers in a vase on my wall suddenly looked 3 dimensional and fractal and I couldn't stop looking at it because it looked so cool. Anyway, the effects were similar to the prior day, only the onset was delayed by a couple hours.

So, at 50 mg, this is an interesting drug. Nothing amazing like 2c-b, which to me surpasses any other drug for pure beautiful enjoyment of existence. Orgasm was not enhanced like with 5-meo-dipt. I did not notice any significant euphoria or empathy or anything roll-like on any occassion. I did not notice any lingering euphoria the next day, like some have mentioned. I didn't feel bad the next day, just not unusually good. A few days after these 2 nights in a row doing 2c-c, I did a gram of shrooms with very little effect, which makes me wonder if these have a cross-tolerance with shrooms (psilobyn).

Overall, I'd compare 50mg of 2c-c to a gram of shrooms. You have visuals, you have some philosophical reflections, some original thoughts, and you can submerge yourself into things, like a movie or video game, more than when sober. Anyway, I think I prefer shrooms though 2c-c is nice in that it is similar and it has some sensory enhancement shrooms lack. Like I never find food tasting BETTER on shrooms than when sober, but I did on 2c-c. And I never noticed shrooms making anything seem more sensual than it was (if anything, when I've done shrooms at a strip club all I could notice was the haggard, lined faces of the girls) but 2c-c I think adds some sensuality, though maybe it is just malleable enough that it can be steered that way if you believe it to be true.

Well, I would say that shrooms scare me more than 2c-c at this dosage. I mean, I've done shrooms when I got too reflective and wanted to stop thinking about stuff, but couldn't because my mind was racing. 2c-c has the nice lethargy that may prevent this, so I think it may turn out that 2c-c is a more predictable experience than shrooms. I could see taking 2c-c on a weeknight, for example, while I would generally save shrooms for a night I am not going to work the next morning.

~psychoblast~
 
2C-C (from my one try) was great because (in my opinion) it has little 'character' of it's own. Instead, it is a psychedelic that you can take in any direction you want. I was able to do some remarkable self-reflection with it, or just enjoy the visuals. Or I could feel almost normal. It went where I wanted it to go. I liked the malleability.

I'm surprised you had some physical side-effects (bloated feeling). I thought 2C-C felt great. Definitely the smoothest PEA I've tried. And I wouldn't say I was lethargic, but it was very relaxing. No stimulation.

While it doesn't seem particularly magical like 2C-I, 2C-E, and 2C-T-7, I still think 2C-C is a good one. Great for beginners or for experienced psychonauts who want some mild self-reflection.

To bad the dosage is so high. It makes for an expensive trip if you have to pay market prices for it. Good report! :)

MGS
 
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Interesting report, thanks.

for the same reason MGS likes 2C-C i find it to be less then impressive. here are some notes from a 45mg experience:

t+1:27 i feel a subtle pressure & a gentle mental swirling. the phone rings, i easily chat with a friend, clear headspace but something is on the edges, the periphery

t+2:35 how unusual. a sedate psychedelic , subtle yet quite unmistakable , a growing sense of psychedelic confusion but very gentle at the same time. i tune in for some national news. the confustion never manifests, i remain clear headed.

t+3:05 a very subtle visual strobe-ing and wavy-ness. fun, but, almost dysphoria , nystigmus and typical PEA OEVs, patterning and swirling. its like when you let your eyes relax to see a visual trick, switching between two perspectives, and you move your head around at the same time, one gets the sense of a ghosting effects. still extremely clear headed.

at that point in the trip i wandered outside & stared at the stars. the breeze was blowing cool, it was nice, but hardly mystical or spiritual. its just lacked something. i put 2C-C in the novelty catagory. maybe useful for an introduction to phenethylamines, but it seems like 8-10mg of 2C-I would be better for that.
 
Hey good report! It's always nice to read about the new chems that are just becoming offered on the market.

And considering how little information there is on 2C-C, every trip report is extremely valuable towards helping people understand the experience.

peace
 
To really experience the magic of this substance, try ~30mg (or more, or less) 2 hours or so into a MDxx trip. The body feelings and mental state really work well together and the open eye visual effects are just stunning. One night out in my garden for a puff of herb (after 180mg methylone + 30mg 2C-C), a plane flew by with its wing lights flashing; soon the whole backyard seemed to fill with fireflies which intensified to a romancandle-like effect of colored sparks flying eveywhere. I just sat there with my mouth wide open.
 
2C-C does seem like it would good with methylone. But I'd take the 2C-C two hours before the methylone so they peak together. They are both so relaxing and gentle.

/me add this to the 'to do' list
 
I don't feel like writing an actual trip report but I'll share some of my experiences. I've taken 2C-C many times. I find that by itself its somewhat short on content, but in some combinations there is incredible magic. I've tried 2C-C in combination with MDA, MDMA, MBDB, methylone, 2C-I, NO2, and marijuana. There seems to be potentiation in every case.

I found the 2C-I/2C-C combo (~10mg/25mg) to be a little too intense at this dosage. The pushy anxious nature of 2C-I really took over. But maybe some of you might like that. Very introspective and visual but I needed to drink a few glasses of wine to calm down.

The MBDB/2C-C combo (175mg/25mg) can be quite nice. I have tried this twice, once with MBDB taken first and once the other way around. I felt it was much more pleasant with the MBDB taken first though the come down was a little ragged. For some reason, when taken in the opposite order, my partner and I both felt kinda frazzled during the come up. (That time I vowed never to try that combo again without some grass to smoke).

My real preference is 2C-C in combination with MDA, MDMA or methylone (or a combination thereof). The MDA I used (blue dolphin pills) was identified through online ecstacy pillreports as being a mix of MDA and caffeine and indeed this makes for a very stimulating combination. The OEVs seem to be more 2D/video-like than with methylone, but in some ways more vivid. Once on this combo, while sitting in a friend's yard at night, I watched my nystagmus turn into a vision of overlapping billboards which morphed into a fullblown hallucination of las vegas-style flashing neon signs advertising the garden.

With methylone things are more relaxed and the OEVs can be more like the "little particles swimming around the brain cells" that mr. psychoblast mentioned, along with the smearing and overlay of colors. Sometimes I've had the distinct impression that I was watching artifacts from my nervous system, bursts of color and light, sparks where there should be none.

My favorite dosing strategy (though it should be noted that this is kind of excessive and expensive) is to start with 180mg methylone followed about 1.25 hours later with 90mg methylone followed 20 minutes later with 120mg MBDB followed 20 minutes later with 20-40mg 2C-C followed 45 minutes later with 5-10mg 2C-C snorted. Then a little pot and NO2 at the 3 hour mark. (And perhaps another phen boost later if you're really into extending the trip). This gives a 12 hour trip which gradually ramps up to an extended plateau which is both incredibly intense yet extremely relaxing and comfortable. Each drug effect blends pleasantly into the next, no sense of anxiety (though you might not want to be in public), a calm ability to lovingly reflect on the world at large with beautiful visuals as powerful as anything I've experienced and it feels really good. The 2C-C peak only lasts about 45 minutes but if you boost with more, the 2C-C plateau seems to last many hours. As usual, mj and NO2 really enhance things. Surprisingly, I find the come down period, while a bit extended, is very gentle and not at all unpleasant. The biggest drawback I have is the complete loss of appitite combined with a drain on my blood sugar levels. I try to make sure I have bananas, icecream or pudding available for emergency carbo-loading. During the peak, visuals can become quite disorienting. Once while watching a music dvd for the first time (the "new" led zeppelin), I was really dissappointed by all the cheesy video transition effects they used between shots. Needless to say, the next day I rewatched the dvd and discovered that there were no video effects at all; it was pure hallucination. (Anyway, I think watching video/TV while on entheogens is generally a big waste).

Caveats:
The last time I tripped, I had only waited 1 week since the previous trip which is not nearly enough time for body/brain recovery. That time I experienced some rather silly paranoia: the moon shining through the fog really freaked me out, making me think the whole block was on fire, smoking and under spotlights. Though I knew this to be a fantasy, I felt I was experiencing a glimpse of amphetamine psychosis. I also felt very grumpy towards my girlfriend which is unusual for me.

Once a friend and I took 200mg methylone and 40mg 2C-C simultaneously. The peak was really too much, we were happy but too incapacitated to even communicate with each other, not the psychedelic socializing we were anticipating and the dog didn't get a walk that night.

I know and appreciate the bluelight attitude on snorting rc's. However 2C-C seems to be fairly gentle (and it doesn't burn) and a small snort near the peak does give a nice little push into the psychedelic. I've tried this with 2C-C solo and don't see the point.

Safety? Combining substances like I have is entering unknown territory. I felt it was probably safe due to the extensive history of people combining MDMA with 2C-B. However no one can know for sure. Take care.
 
Good report! I'm glad that I am starting to see more 2c-c reports out there, since it is (as of now) my favorite RC. Of course the only other ones i've tried are AMT, 4-aCO-DiPT, and foxy.
 
Some responses:

1. I can't compare to 2c-i, which for some reason I can never locate for sale anywhere.

2. I tried railing ~5 mg then after another hour ~7 mg. I found there was some burn / dryness and some unpleasant drip taste, but bearable. After another hour, I had a mild 2c-c trip, like somewhere between taking 35 and 50 orally (closer to the 35 mg experience really). I noticed swirling OEVs only if I relaxed my eyes and stared at a pretty uncomplicated image.

~psychoblast~
 
Very good report!! :) And some interesting information in this thread.
 
psychoblast said:

I did also do quite a bit of reflecting, and felt like I had some real insights into life and myself. I guess my ego was cushioned because some of the insights were negative but did not unduly distress me. Like one thing I thought of was how everything in the universe is made up of spirals. I don't know if that is true, but it seemed so at the time. And like the double spiral shape of our dna expresses something fundamental about the nature of the universe. The secrets of the universe are found in understanding the qualities of the double spiral.

Ever seen the movie Pi? by Darren Aronofsky?

Amazing movie, which explores the spiral. I think about at times while tripping? Check out my avatar too.......spirals
 
"A few days after these 2 nights in a row doing 2c-c, I did a gram of shrooms with very little effect, which makes me wonder if these have a cross-tolerance with shrooms (psilobyn). "

Interesting. I experienced little to no effect from 2c-i several days after a mushroom trip.
 
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