chris_p
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Havent had any for like a month.. took some a few days ago, should be fine to use once more. I'm not exactly the model drug user I know, but psychedelics need at least a bit of molly to be complete IMO
Phenethylamines 2C-B, worth trying on its own?
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Interesting, I view molly as only complete alongside a psychedelic. Keep an eye out for memory degradation issues using MDMA this frequently btw. I trialed taking 30mg of MDMA every other week for a couple months and it was much less impactful than taking 90-125mg every 6-8 weeks.
Also if you can ever access MDA, do it! It's a longer lasting, less stimulating, more psychedelic take on MDMA imo.
Good luck with this all, take care of yourself, be safe, and have fun man!
chris_p
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WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST WITNESS... I stasrted redosing the 2cb because I didnt think it was doing anythign.. then literally my entire being all my thoughts allmy senses turned into a perfectly arrangerd series of geometry. It feels like I could see literally every part of my brain right in front of me. I will NOT be forgetting that for a long time jesus fuck. And it all felt so amazing while it was happening like the most euphoeric thing in my entire fucking life. Glad I gave this drug a shot...
I'm glad you had a good time with it! High dose 2C-B trips aren't for the faint of heart certainly, they're unbelievably intense and "spiritual" or "religious" feeling I guess I would say. The profundity of 2C-B is often overlooked because people dose it in lower ranges where it's more of a stimulating psychedelic euphoriant than anything else, but as the doses increase, the psycehdelia and euphoria follow suit but the stimulation leaves and people become damn near catatonic when on enough 2C-B. I recently found that DOM, Allylescaline, Miprocin, LSD, and N,N-DiPT can also induce a similar state of unconscious experiences that have more religious value than some deity walking up to me right now would be able to induce.
Did you orally or intranasally dose, and what was the total amount?
chris_p
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100mg plugged.. over the course of 1-2 hours, highf dose MDMA
It sure is, but few psychedelics play SO well in concert with other drugs as 2C-B in my opinion. I prefer 2C-B with DOM, MDA, Allylescaline or LSD personally. Nothing like whipping up a fat line of DOM and 2C-B and committing nasal self-harm with the burn, but the trip is beautiful. I learned an old friend of mine died and I didn't really know how to cope, so I put 25mg of DOM, 40mg of 4-HO-MiPT, 25mg of 3-HO-PCP, and ~45mg of 2C-B in one huge line, railed it, and passed out into an unconscious state reliving his death drowning in that marsh on that frigid night. I couldn't get the taste of the marshwater out of my mouth for days, but the catharsis of the trip was more than worth the somewhat horrific elements of what I was struggling with at that time.
chris_p
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Man what the fuck I think I just saw how my brain worked. When I breakthrough on DMT its like everything is alive and its entities and it feels like a million different presecnes all around me that are alive. Here I felt like I saw an endless churning of information processing that was seemingly infinite. Is this the 8A and 8B they talk about? DMT composed of concepts of 'self' and 'tribes' and existential thought about reality and onself, 'art' and everything cultural, while 2cb was like seeing my entire storage system and processing neatly composed in an infinite series of geometry that is somehow algorhitimaclly read my by unconscious mind and converted to senses like sight and hearing for the conscious mind WHAT THE FUCK
This is the 8a and 8b that people talk about, it's sometimes referred to as "introspective synesthesia". It's one of the most beuatiful varieties of psychedelic experiences in my opinion. 2C-B is a safer way for most people to reach this realm of dosing than psilocin or LSD, the indolic psychedelics seem to be more prone to inducing mania and general tomfoolery. Phenethylamines though seem to be more calm, mescaline and 2C-B being two solid examples.
I had something a bit like that with 2cb and ketamine. Seeing my own psyche that is. Hang on I'll dig out the trip report.
There it is
Tldr kholed on 2cb saw my ego represented as a crystalline structure about to shatter and yacked all over my laptop.
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Mr. Krinkle
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yea but boof it - go somewhere between 15 mg and 25 mg - dont go above that or you're gonna be fucked and it's no fun
it's really the only drug that i highly recommend up the the chute rather than down the hatch
and yes - there's no need to mix it with anything until you're bored - do that some other time - plus it's pretty potent and can takeover an lsd trip so i dont recommend that but some may say differently here
it's really the only drug that i highly recommend up the the chute rather than down the hatch
and yes - there's no need to mix it with anything until you're bored - do that some other time - plus it's pretty potent and can takeover an lsd trip so i dont recommend that but some may say differently here
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i didn't read the whole thread, just the OPs original post, so idk what else has been said - im just trying to help out here - because im a helpful guy
chris_p
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I VERY heavily enjoyed the high dose, not going to lie.. the euphoria was off the charts. I honestly feel like I could have gone a little bit higher but the pounding headache started to worry me after a bit. I didn't really notice much of a negative body load I was in a state of almost complete ecstasy from head to toe like my body was shivering from it. Definitely from the MDMA combination but I have a bit of a desire to try it again at this dose. Not sure if its safe or not, still feeling the headache a bityea but boof it - go somewhere between 15 mg and 25 mg - dont go above that or you're gonna be fucked and it's no fun
it's really the only drug that i highly recommend up the the chute rather than down the hatch
and yes - there's no need to mix it with anything until you're bored - do that some other time - plus it's pretty potent and can takeover an lsd trip so i dont recommend that but some may say differently here
Headache is one of the most common after effects from taking 2cb. I stopped getting one after the first few times.
Same here, especially bad if insufflated.
Trust me when I say that putting at least 6 weeks in between rolls will maintain the "magic" sorts of feelings, if you roll to frequently MDMA just becomes shitty meth that lasts no time at all and leaves you somehow even more drained than meth would. 2C-B however can be used daily, there is mild concern over its 5HT2b agonism potentially causing valvulopathy if it's taken daily over a period of years though. I used to do 6-8 week binges of daily 2C-B use, my fiance and I often housing a gram or more over that period. There was a good amount of miprocin, DOM, LSD, MDA, MDMA, 3-MeO-PCP, and THC concentrates in the mix too. The main reason we'd take breaks from 2C-B was because another psychedelic would create tolerance that dulled the 2C-B, and we didn't want to waste it. Also the nasal damage was adding up so we started taking more doses orally.
This was during covid in a rather dense city in Maine, over a frigid winter where I was watching a lot of homeless people freeze to death despite there being entire apartment complexes empty bc they're kept as "investment properties". It was a really difficult time in my life emotionally, and using 2C-B often helped me to get through that to a point of compassion instead of hatred, if that makes sense. I still harbor hatred for the greedy bastards who would rather let somebody freeze to death on the sidewalk outside my apartment than let them stay in a room in their "investment properties", but I'm much less likely to unironically chase the property manager out of the apartment leaving her crying and shaking and shit after those periods of 2C-B use.
chris_p
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I will skip the MDMA for the foreseeable future. Next time just ordering 2cb
I think that's not only wise for giving MDMA a brief tolerance break, but also 2C-B is a compound worth stockpiling and keeping on hand imo. Mixing it with LSD, mescaline, psilocybin containing fungi, even just THC. An interesting thing is to also consume anywhere from 4-12mg of 2C-B (best done by diluting a known amount in water and then taking just a small amount). It's the best thing I've ever microdosed in my entire life, and the positive mood impacts that are elicited by low doses of 2C-B can be genuinely life-changing.
perpetualdawn
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I've probably only had it at 15-25mg range. Not sure I'd be up for pushing it to that point of vomiting and blacking out, but sounds like there is a lot more headroom above where I've taken it.
chris_p
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To me, it is immensely euphoric at high doses but in a very intense physical manner that other psychedelics dont quite reach, acid has gotten me there somewhat but its not as overwhelming. High doses give me a very strong amphetamine/MDMA like rush, but I don't seem to get side effects like nausea or vasoconstriction to a severe degree. I don't think its a dangerous drug at all to push to high doses personally but its extremely intense and if you like strong physical sensations you might enjoy it, though I cannot imagine myself ever freaking out on the effects, it just feels too pleasant. I think plugging is by far the best way to take it... it hits almost instantly, immediate effects are heart pounding, slow warm wave travelling from my head to toe, and then shivers send up my whole body while my mind begins to melts into a trillion blue angular shapes that render me almost completely mentally immobile. I would say shrooms and DMT are far more intense in showing you serious and existential shit while 2cb shows you the more euphoric and erotic side of things, although this isn't to say it's not capable of producing similar effects.
I had a grand total of 100mg plugged in one night and experienced no real nausea or blacking out, but I was in a complete state of ego death, surprisingly it did not last all that long. It hits like a truck for 20-30 minutes then afterwards is pure bliss with a bit of a headache. I would recommend trying it, my first go with 2cb at 25mg plugged was very nice but I found it a slight bit underwhelming or basic, but it quickly turned into the most unique drug I've ever had once you cross the heavy threshold, I must say it is very hard to hold back on compulsively redosing it.
Just ordered another 150mg.. the cost of this stuff is real bad but I don't mind, I somehow feel better even sober than I ever have in my life while using this stuff
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2c-b is one of the most enjoyable and useful psychedelics that exist. Perfectly good to take on its own. It really just depends what you're looking for. I've never had any issues with nausea, or any troubling side effects that are really worth mentioning. It's not going to be the same thing as taking LSD or psilocybin, and it's a different headspace and experience generally, but then again, that's why I like it.