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2c-b vs 2c-i at raves

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meloen1

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I have tried 2c-b many times at technoparties, at doses around 10-15mg (depending on how drunk I am, lower dose end when drunk, higher end when sober, because alcohol potentiates the stuff).
It is really great, it greatly enhances music, gives a light MDMA-like euphoria, but as a disadvantage, it doesnt really give me much energy.

I will soon obtain 2 capsules of 2c-i, each containing 15mg of 2c-i. Now I want to try this at a rave. It seems better, because it lasts longer, and often 2c-b works a little too short.
But what are the differences between the two?
-mindfucks?
-more euphoric?
-more energy?
Wich one do you prefer in a rave setting, so not at home on the couch.

And what dose is recommended, when taking into acount that when sober, 15mg is my ideal rave dose for 2c-b.
 
i would prefer 2c-i, endless energy. one time my friends and i all took 120mg mdma, but i added about 10-15mg 2c-i. i was floored for a little while while they were all dancing, but i ended up going the hardest at the end of the night. this was also the first time ive ever fallen asleep while tripping. the weirdest and most colorful dreams ensued. :)
 
I find both to be pretty clear headed at the doses you've indicated. As for energy, I'm more inclined to point to set and setting rather than the drug itself...I find MDMA to be not particularly stimulating except for maybe my masseter. ;)
 
2ci at festivals is probably the only place i would use it... not my cup of tea as far as psychedelics go, due to the uncomfortable body load it gives me (high muscle tension, even at low doses).
so i guess the correct path to take would be to test it out first and decide for yourself, since we all react a bit differently to these things...
 
2C-I is longer lasting, more stimulating, and less euphoric and tactile than 2C-B, for me. It is also more introspective and visual. I do not care much for 2C-I at all and do not intend to take it again, but many disagree with me. I might suggest that you try it once at home before doing it in a rave environment. 2C-I is more potent that B, I would happily do 30 mg or more of 2C-B but wouldn't venture above 15 or 16 with 2C-I, it gets pretty stimulating, and not in a euphoric way. Try perhaps 10 or 12 mg and see how you get on with it,
 
Vader said:
2C-I is longer lasting, more stimulating, and less euphoric and tactile than 2C-B, for me. It is also more introspective and visual. I do not care much for 2C-I at all and do not intend to take it again, but many disagree with me. I might suggest that you try it once at home before doing it in a rave environment. 2C-I is more potent that B, I would happily do 30 mg or more of 2C-B but wouldn't venture above 15 or 16 with 2C-I, it gets pretty stimulating, and not in a euphoric way. Try perhaps 10 or 12 mg and see how you get on with it,
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Hmm. Thats the only downside of 2c-b, its a little too laidback, and it doesnt last long enough. I can often extend the effect by an hour if I take some more (about 1/3 dose after 2 hours but not by much at all).
2C-I seemed to solve both these isues, but now the problem is it is not euphoric enough, and seems to indeed give some body load.

So to combine the positives of the drugs, maybe combining them would give ideal effects? I was thinking in the direction of 8mg of 2c-b with 4-5mg 2c-i. Would this still give the 2c-b euphoria with a little extra energy? Anyone has experience with this? Likely a redose with a 3mg of 2c-b is required as otherwise the 2c-b will wear off too soon.
Problem is I like to go to these techno parties a lot, but I can only use MDMA once every 4-6 weeks, and dont want to use any other amphetamines. even though amphetamines dont have an awfull lot of effect on serotonin, they do downregulate DA and NE receptors and these are also a very big part of the MDMA high. I dont wanna try GHB. So K and 2cs are my only options. K is too expensive, so 2cs are the way to go for me.
 
Does LSD not suffice? Or your are just interested in other compounds?
Seems like duration, euphoria and energy are all A+ with good ol lsd
 
I used 2C-B and as you say, it's very laid-back, as soon as it hit me I found a nice place to sit in fetal position and banged my head to the booming sound of bass vibes going through the windows. I tripped there for quite 2-3 hours in my headspace (yeah, 2C-B encloses you in your own headspace, that's how I'd call it. A bit like 4-aco-dmt, where, when it kicks in, you get floored to the ground, as in feeling like sitting down.)
 
I combined 2C-I with 2C-B a few times, and they play nice together. More psychedelic than either on their own, could be nice for a rave (never tried it). But maybe something to try at home the first time. Lower your doses of both when combining.
 
Dmytry said:
i would prefer 2c-i, endless energy. one time my friends and i all took 120mg mdma, but i added about 10-15mg 2c-i. i was floored for a little while while they were all dancing, but i ended up going the hardest at the end of the night. this was also the first time ive ever fallen asleep while tripping. the weirdest and most colorful dreams ensued. :)
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not sure if im getting the wrong end of the stick, but did you fall asleep at a rave?
 
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