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2c-b question! need pro advice!
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Delsyd
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put it in a tray (a pyrex baking dish would work well) with a fan blowing over it.
After the solution has evaporated you will be left with 2c-b powder.
You can snort the 2c-b powder but be prepared for a sensation akin to snorting flaming razor blades.
also be sure to measure your doses.
Do you know how many mg/ml are in your bottles?
After the solution has evaporated you will be left with 2c-b powder.
You can snort the 2c-b powder but be prepared for a sensation akin to snorting flaming razor blades.
also be sure to measure your doses.
Do you know how many mg/ml are in your bottles?
Well, if you know the concentration of the solution you can snort it. I snorted 2c-e like this before, had a 20mg/ml solution, so I measured out .6ml or so on a table top and snorted it with a pen tube 
If you want to safely evaporate your solvent so you have a powder, pour the solution in a tray/dish/whatever and stick it into the oven (set it to like 90 degrees C) and wait till it evaporates. Using just a fan will take a long ass time.
Alternatively you can boil the solution down on the stove somewhat, then pour it on a small frying pan, which is placed in a large frying pan of boiling water as to heat the stuff without it getting too hot (past the boiling point of water).
2c-b melts at 238ish degrees C, I'm not sure what the decomposition point, but it is higher then its melting point. It seems that alot of people are very gentle with psychedelics, but this is often unnecessary. LSD is a very sensitive molecule, 2c compounds are pretty tough, have high melting points and wont be decomposed easily.
If you want to safely evaporate your solvent so you have a powder, pour the solution in a tray/dish/whatever and stick it into the oven (set it to like 90 degrees C) and wait till it evaporates. Using just a fan will take a long ass time.
Alternatively you can boil the solution down on the stove somewhat, then pour it on a small frying pan, which is placed in a large frying pan of boiling water as to heat the stuff without it getting too hot (past the boiling point of water).
2c-b melts at 238ish degrees C, I'm not sure what the decomposition point, but it is higher then its melting point. It seems that alot of people are very gentle with psychedelics, but this is often unnecessary. LSD is a very sensitive molecule, 2c compounds are pretty tough, have high melting points and wont be decomposed easily.
As far as the concentration goes....
i took 3/4 of a 1oz shot glass..
buzz lasted aprx 4hr w/ visuals and good mdma feel...
that is the best way i can explain!!!
Any further advice will be greatly appreciated!! bcuz there isn't alot of liturature on this drug aside complicated chemistry reports!
i took 3/4 of a 1oz shot glass..
buzz lasted aprx 4hr w/ visuals and good mdma feel...
that is the best way i can explain!!!
Any further advice will be greatly appreciated!! bcuz there isn't alot of liturature on this drug aside complicated chemistry reports!
Jesusgreen
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There is plenty of information available about 2C-B and other 2C-* phenethylamines, you just need to find it. Check Erowid and check the Big Dandy 2C-B thread: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=125910
You should never dose something, particularly an RC without knowing exactly how much you got. In 50ml there could have been 5mg or there could have been an entire gram, never buy any drug unless you know what and how much you're getting. Even though you've already consumed some, you should ask your dealer/vendor what the concentration is, just a small increase/decrease in dosage can have a dramatic effect on what you experience - and without knowing the concentration, dosing will be even harder than eyeballing a powder.
Did you end up taking it nasally or orally? I'm glad you had a good experience, never dose a chemical without knowing at the very least *roughly* how much you're dosing though, while 2C-B is a very safe chemical, you wouldn't want to ingest a ridiculous amount and end up put off psychedelics permanently would you?
Peace
Well, I would evaporate a known quantity and take down the mass of the anhydrous crystal.
A very rough guess is that 22 ml (3/4 an oz) contains somewhere between 15-50 milligrams of 2c-b based on what you said. It is really impossible to tell such tiny quantities without a good balance.
As for making it burn less when you snort it, I have not tried. I read reports of people trying lidocaine, cocaine and some other topical anesthetics with mixed reports (mostly saying that it did not work well, but I think someone said cocaine made it better). Keep in mind that snorted 2c drugs are alot more potent. If you ate 20mg, you would only need to snort 7mg (roughly) for the same effects (with a shorter duration but quicker onset).*
Have you considered plugging? It burns a bit but it works quite well.
*depends on what 2c, but 1/3rd the dose is a good rule of thumb, but you should probably not follow a rule of thumb for drugs, and just look it up on google and other bluelight threads
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I took in orally, but im not seeking that intense LSD feel... Rather im more into the low dosage aphrodisiac aspect of the high while with my gf!
Powder is more of a social experience versus a one shot knockout from a liquid ingestion.
this is why im seeking insight into this liquid/powder conversion!
Now that i've testdrivin it im certain it is what it is and that the come down was relatively mild in comparison to mdma... which i also love as a party favor!
Can you give me an idea of how long this oven-dry @ 90 C ..takes? TYVMWell, if you know the concentration of the solution you can snort it. I snorted 2c-e like this before, had a 20mg/ml solution, so I measured out .6ml or so on a table top and snorted it with a pen tube
If you want to safely evaporate your solvent so you have a powder, pour the solution in a tray/dish/whatever and stick it into the oven (set it to like 90 degrees C) and wait till it evaporates. Using just a fan will take a long ass time.
Alternatively you can boil the solution down on the stove somewhat, then pour it on a small frying pan, which is placed in a large frying pan of boiling water as to heat the stuff without it getting too hot (past the boiling point of water).
2c-b melts at 238ish degrees C, I'm not sure what the decomposition point, but it is higher then its melting point. It seems that alot of people are very gentle with psychedelics, but this is often unnecessary. LSD is a very sensitive molecule, 2c compounds are pretty tough, have high melting points and wont be decomposed easily.
A couple of hours, I think. I would imagine its ok to turn the oven up to like 120C actually. The danger of doing it in over a direct flame is that when the water evaporates, the pan starts getting hotter (it is no longer cooled by the evaporating water), and it might decompose your stuff. In the oven the ambient temperature should not exceed whatever it is set to, so if you left 2c-b in the oven at 100c for a few days, it should theoretically be fine. Don't crank your oven up to like 200c because the thermostat in the oven might be a piece of shit (I think I saw something on the food network about them being off as much as 40c, and given that this is omfg super awesome powdery love, multiply that by 3, just incase), its better to have a margin of safety as to not waste your precious chemicals
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It means sticking it up your arse
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One thing you should be aware of is that when evaporating off a solvent; you are likely to lose a lot of the chemical. I discussed this scenario with a close friend who is a PhD chemist and has 20+ years working at a major pharmaceutical company, and he said that you will be lucky to recover 60% of the chemical. Under the strictest lab practices, with the best equipment you can approach 90% recovery.
Delsyd
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^i call bullshit.
ive made solutions and evaporated them without losing any product.
Where does it go? I can assure you 2cb doesnt evaporate.
ive made solutions and evaporated them without losing any product.
Where does it go? I can assure you 2cb doesnt evaporate.
Delsyd
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cool.
but if its stuck to the dish you could scrape it off and recover all or nearly most of it
just sayin![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
but if its stuck to the dish you could scrape it off and recover all or nearly most of it
just sayin
Sorry, that's just plain bullshit.
The concept of mechanical losses (stuff stuck to the sides of the container, etc) is real, but he's an order of magnitude off. Or he's got miserable lab technique, and thinks that's normal.
You'll get some mechanical loss by letting your liquid 2C-B evaporate, but one can only assume that you'll rinse the glass plate at some point and keep the liquid you rinsed it with to drink at some future point in time.
any major dude
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i think one of his lab tech's is stealing 40% of whatever they're making. hope its some of the fun pharmies
I've recovered >80% of a 2c-e solution using an exacto knife and a porcelain oven safe appetizer place from wal-mart without even trying that hard. I evaporated 10mL of a 5mg/mL solution and got ~42mg, and could still see a bit on the plate, but was tired of scraping and just set it aside for sometime when i'm willing to work that hard for 8mg 2c-e, or i could just lick the plate. Stop-loss at its best!
i think one of his lab tech's is stealing 40% of whatever they're making. hope its some of the fun pharmies
I've recovered >80% of a 2c-e solution using an exacto knife and a porcelain oven safe appetizer place from wal-mart without even trying that hard. I evaporated 10mL of a 5mg/mL solution and got ~42mg, and could still see a bit on the plate, but was tired of scraping and just set it aside for sometime when i'm willing to work that hard for 8mg 2c-e, or i could just lick the plate. Stop-loss at its best!
I wonder what happens in the DEA's analytical laboratories.... I bet those guys don't sleep at night...
psilocybonaut
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So your solution ended up being ~10mg/ml...
This seems way, way off. If he ingested 22ml of 10mg/ml 2C-B solution, that would have been 220mg, which is way way too much.