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2C-B, Methylone, Herbals & Coca Leaf - Experienced - Label Problems

Ximot

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Bear with me as I tell you about how I accidentally ingested about 100mg 2C-B around 5am on a Saturday morning after Friday night out and tripped balls till almost lunchtime that day.

2C-B can definitely bring on very deep religious experiences... as experienced by me and a friend when we consumed it after a night out on beers and methylone (and 4FA, for my companion). When we got home, the plan was to ingest a nice strong tea of coca leaves, catha edulis, kratom, and GHB (I know, the combo with alcohol isn't wise, but the amount wasn't too much). We also smoked a little bit of a synthetic cannabinoid and then proceeded to ingest what we thought was BUTYLONE... but when the drug hit, I realised it was 2C-B... my bad, I had it badly labelled, the writing had come off and all i coudl read was the letter B... since I presumed it was Butylone ("B1") and not 2C-B ("B") I just emptied the bag and made two piles... there must have been 180-250mg of 2C-B in there...

it was a very deep, mystical experience of deep telepathic, energetic sharing of thoughts and intentions over the course of a few hours, while hardly able to move... and thinking we were going to die... but the next day we were fine, and grateful for the experience, the bonding, and to be alive. We died, again and again, became embryos again, grew up, developed our quirks and hang-ups... till the got the better of us and we died, again... again and again, over myriads of births and deaths... till, at some point, we realised we were still there. Much had to do with the urge to have sex as well... which we didn't, and we understood deeply - later on - that inappropriate sexual unity can best be withstood with holistic practices such as yoga, breathing... there was much Catholic Christian imagery, about selfishness, misguided desires, lust, guilt, and what-have-you, and I understood deeply -again, later on - how much I have been programmed and how little of that programming I have been able to shed so far... and how far I have to go until I am free from it, and from that endless cycle of an unholy death and resurrection... There were moments of complete brainzap too, for sure, but on the whole it was very rewarding and has pushed me in a new direction, away from old patterns and toward a new understanding of my potential. My friend has had a very simiar experience; seemst hat despite hours of not speaking we communicated telepathically. As a result, we are now closer than ever, sexual tensions heretofore existent seem to have been greatly reduced, and our friendship/companionship has been strengthened. And, yeah, we're both glad we didn't die.

And I know what you are all gonna say: I am STUPID for not labelling properly, for blindly trusting my intuition on what I can get away with. And you're right. And after meddling with these substances for many years now, I really should know better.

So this was my cautionary tale to all who think they want to ingest recklessly when drunk or on empathogens... and being a bit fiendy...

REMEMBER TO USE A SCALE AND REMEMBER TO MAKE SURE YOU IDENTIFY WHAT IT IS YOU ARE TAKING.

Myself, I am taking a break from all these materials for an indefinite amount of time - as soon as I have been drinking or taken an empathogen, I no longer have myself under control, nor the substances, for this was the second weekend in a row I kind of overdosed... last week, on benzos, and drunk, I ingested some 60ish mg of a mixture of 4-Aco-Mipt and 4-Ho-Mipt, only to almost freak out and wishing I had an anti-psychotic to abort it until I reconciled myself with the experience (and then I was fine, really fine, and positively stunned by the visual beauty).

And it's not just a cautionary tale but also the good news that +/-100mg 2C-B can be had without any major difficulties. Although I do recommend not doing that alone, and not outside, and I am also sure the kratom, catha edulis, and GHB helped with any possible panic feelings we may otherwise have had. As it were, we just surrendered to our certain death... many, many times. To what extent the alcohol/GHB/Kratom combo made us almost unable to move,I don0t know... oh, and didn't we have occasional bumps of S-Ketamine earlier in the evening, before we got home as well? hmm..... where I comefrom, my reckless behaviour is labelled "polytoxicomania" ... really got to get a grip on myself. I can be totally straight for days on end, but once I get going... I forget how to stop...

Bloody hell, long post... first time in a long time for me.

Keep it real, everyone. I, in the meantime, am taking a break. I am fine, and happy, after 15 hours of sleep from Saturday to Sunday and even a long workday today Monday... but right now I need to stop doing drugs before they do me. I have now had 2 warnings in as many weekends, and if I go on, I may well not live to tell the tale. I need to re-evaluate my life... and most definitely my relationship to my stashbox, and to regain a healthy respect for these sacraments.

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Nothing like a psychedelic OD to reconnect you with the important aspects of life...
 
Wow, good to hear that in the end everything turned to gold for you and friend. Let that trend continue (for everyone). Also, downloaded your gig, in my mind- the type of music you make is the type you HAVE to see live (or recorded via live) to fully appreciate. I'm glad you're both conscious.
 
Wow! That is definitely an interesting set of substances even without the accident. I had a wonderful experience with 2C-B my first time, but after that, it just seemed like a novelty psychedelic. Nonetheless, it is quite good. I couldn't imagine ingesting 100mgs. That would certainly give me a good "wake up!"

I'm experienced with all of the other compounds except for Khat. I really want to try that someday, but my recent experiences with Coca Leaf have been quite interesting (hence the report). I don't typically do coctails with other drugs when it comes to psychedelics, but to each their own.

Anyhow, sounds like a wild ride. Hope everything is fine with you after that.
 
Ximot said:
....there was much Catholic Christian imagery, about selfishness, misguided desires, lust, guilt, and what-have-you, and I understood deeply -again, later on - how much I have been programmed and how little of that programming I have been able to shed so far... and how far I have to go until I am free from it, and from that endless cycle of an unholy death and resurrection... There were moments of complete brainzap too, for sure, but on the whole it was very rewarding and has pushed me in a new direction, away from old patterns and toward a new understanding of my potential.

Myself, I am taking a break from all these materials for an indefinite amount of time - as soon as I have been drinking or taken an empathogen, I no longer have myself under control, nor the substances,

hmm..... where I comefrom, my reckless behaviour is labelled "polytoxicomania" ... really got to get a grip on myself. I can be totally straight for days on end, but once I get going... I forget how to stop...

Keep it real, everyone. I, in the meantime, am taking a break. I am fine, and happy, after 15 hours of sleep from Saturday to Sunday and even a long workday today Monday... but right now I need to stop doing drugs before they do me. I have now had 2 warnings in as many weekends, and if I go on, I may well not live to tell the tale. I need to re-evaluate my life... and most definitely my relationship to my stashbox, and to regain a healthy respect for these sacraments.

Uhh I thought I'm staring into a mirror when reading this report...I'm glad you made it but be aware that the most difficult part is still coming...this coming after a weekend when I thought about trying a empathogen which turned out to be a dissapointment and then (as has become a bad habit but wanted to avoid at all costs) recklessly dosed a stimulant (not meth,at least I learned that lesson).

All I wanna do in the future is 1-2 times a year a psychedelic and the occasional cannabinoid.I know Buddhist recommend taking no drugs at all,but my depressive mind sometimes need to be re-lightened.

All this attachments one has,its really a tough fight to let loose,those Buddhist have a point!Well at least I'm at a point where I consider giving away for free (or burning down) a car no more wanted.Why write anything up,photographing/collecting pictures and collecting all kind of useless THINGS?Freezing the past?All this materialism is really starting to annoy me,in fact it hinders us to live our life!Nothing beats in my view good friendships,but most people use them just to boast status and what stuff they just bought.

And why collecting drugs when you're not going to use them anymore but just because of the fact you have them YOU WILL take them again with all consequences?Habits always start where they ended,ask alcoholics. Well I have throwed away 100g meth,60g MDMA and 50g Mescaline before (the only thing I regretted,years later exactly Mescaline gave me the first +4! and put me on a spiritual path) ,so who knows.I had a great time with the compounds,learned tremendously,in fact it was the biggest thrill to take entirely new substances.But that was the past,I'm a grown spiritual being now and ready to move on to new projects in life,but what,I still stick to the past like glue?Why is that so difficult to let go?Didn't I experience total ego loss just last Friday on 35mg of 2C-D-and yet it was the most joyful experience?Was that a sign "don't be afraid!"?Ah those voices...

The path to liberation is a hard one.To be honest,I'm still struggling why I should take it when it is in fact the more difficult one (not that thers a way back)?You'll never get final liberation,mind is always going back into a new cage.Why why why am I doing all this to myself?And in the end,you're going to die like anyone else,well you might enjoy it far more than the closed minds which could go through horrible deathpanic.Liberation sounds so appealing but it can be like a deathfight.Looks like I'm on crossroads again,but then there seems always crossroads-and when not you are already in the process of getting stuck again.Am I searching for that illusionary final peaceful rest?Isn't that death?But then,isn't the goal of life,death???

Oh my a contact-overdose-high has taken over me...
 
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Wow, Ximot... that is QUITE the list of drugs. I'm really glad you're okay. Very interesting report to read. Best of luck to you in trimming down your usage. :)
 
incidentally, my friend didn't experience lifetimes in a cycle of death and rebirth; rather, she regressed back into an embryonic state... or so she said. (just an update)
 
Xorki,yeah I'm okay so far.Ximots TR catalysed quite a carnage of self-reflection as something similar happened after a empathogen dose,it only ever opens the gates to reckless and addictive (stims) behaviour at this point in time,it always ends the same,I have to quit empathogens and probably stims altogether.Well going to the 40-ies one has to adapt its behaviour as every brain cell is holy,what was good at 25 just is shallow repeat of the past but which won't come back ah all those attachments ... onward!
 
michael said:
i took 80mg 2c-b once, and after i got over the feeling that i had positively poisoned myself it was stunningly beautiful.

but i wouldn't do it again.


oh I remember the poison feeling. And the beauty, too. And I won't do it again either, I don't think. :\
 
hugo24 said:
after a empathogen dose,it only ever opens the gates to reckless and addictive (stims) behaviour at this point in time,it always ends the same,I have to quit empathogens and probably stims altogether.

so true man ... me too mid-30s now and I can sense that stims have done me a fair bit of damage... and empathogens. . . . so many times i went from "just a moderate dose for some good clean fun" to "totally overboard triger-happy now-what-else-can-I-add-into the mix" . . . it's becomign like an automatic learnt response .. . Pavlovian, if you will . . . now, I doubt I can ever go back to using responsibly on my own . . . in good company with one who will be more responsible and able to moderate my use, to talk me out of it... yes. The friend I did this mix with just tends to go along with whatever I suggest, like there's no tomorrow, and if I keep doing that, I will not live much longer, at least not as intact as I am. This I know, and I want to live. It is not easy to "stay clean" . . . but I have days where I don't even smoke cannabis or use kratom, nor any nootropic, and even on those days I am sometimes just fine. And when I do have a smoke of ganja, boy is it nice.
 
egore said:
Nothing like a psychedelic OD to reconnect you with the important aspects of life...


Exactly what I was going to say....

Ximot----WOW!!! Awesome report..I know what you mean about dying, being an embryo etc........There have been many times where I claim to have lived through my death on combinations of RCs and psychs.....Smart move on taking a break....

It's a beautiful life, don't abuse it!=D
 
A few years ago 4 friends of mine accidentally made an IV injection of 100 mg pure 2c-i instead of 4-methylamphetamine.
They had very intense hard trips, and all of them were thinking they gonna die, 'cos first moments nobody understood what exactly happened to them.
It was some sober friends around, so they got some basic help. But anyway, that was really dangerous!
 
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