Substance:
2C-B + MDMA + ketamine (all orally)
Dosage:
20 mg 2C-B in gelcap. Tested using Marquis giving yellow, changing to green, and then fading over time as per http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/512598-Marquis-Mecke-Mandellin-results-for-stim-empathogen-2C-X-RC-s-amp-more
Personal data
Male, 180lbs., 6'1", 20's, resistance training 2-3 times a week but no cardio. Diagnosed with clinical depression, ADHD, and OCD. I'm possibly bipolar but my psychiatrist can't seem to figure it out/won't give me a straight answer. Had really bad experiences with SSRI's, benzo's and other prescribed psych meds so I stopped taking them 2 years ago and refuse to take any ever again.
Medications and addictions:
Dexedrine XR 10-20mg orally as needed for studying. I try to limit my intake to no more than 3 times a week because they make me moody.
Accutane 10mg/day. I was about 4 days in at the time of the trip.
Set & Setting:
Friend's house in quiet neighborhood with my friends - M, F. Stereo system with a vocal trance playlist.
Rating:
10/10
Previous experiences:
* Alprazolam (Was prescribed. Used daily but haven't touched since 2009)
* Lorazepam (Was prescribed. Used daily but haven't touched since 2008 )
* Kratom (x4)
* LSD (x4)
* Shrooms (x11)
* 2C-E (x1)
* Salvia (x2)
* DXM (x3 - first plateau only)
* MDMA (Many times)
* Weed and hash (Many times but can no longer handle either. Haven't touched them in years.)
Substance appearance:
Off-white powder. Slightly clumpy. Sticks to inner walls of gel cap.
Closest previous trip: 10mg 2C-E + 4g shrooms + 1 tab LSD altogether a week before. 120 mg MDMA + 60 mg booster 2 hours the day before.
Tolerance:
None
Sensitivity:
Low
Addiction potential:
Low
Main effects:
Intense CEV's. Moderate OEV's. Lucid thought patterns and a constant feeling of tranquility.
Side effects:
None
After effects:
Some tiredness
Shulgin scale:
***. I would give it **** if I tripped the same way everytime I honey flip (with no tolerance going in of course). Time will tell as I intend on doing this again and again.
T 00:00
My friend procured three gelcaps with the 2C-B in them. He claimed they were 20 mg each. I weighed them and one fell short at 17 mg. M and I ate a large breakfast and we each ingested a 20mg pill an hour later. F joined in with a light breakfast of fruit and ingested the 17mg pill. She assumed it was 20 mg and I still haven't told her to this day that I gave her the smaller quantity. Keep in mind that she was much more petite than M & I and hasn't taken a psychedelic in months. We also took Mg, Vit A, and Vit D supplements. I passed on the Vit A since I was on accutane.
T +01:00
K & I felt absolutely nothing. B was flying. She put on shades because the visuals were a bit too overwhelming for her.
T +01:35
B still had her shades on and said she was on cloud 9. K & I still didn't feel anything. All 3 of us went to a nearby park. I was hoping something would happen if we changed our setting & activity.
T +01:50
I sat in a swing set and felt upset that the 2C-B hasn't kicked in yet. K felt the same. We all walked back to the house.
T +02:05
K decided to do some ketamine orally. I've never done it before but decided this was the right time to do it in the hopes it would let the 2C-B take effect. He prepared a parachute for me. I can't remember the dose but I'm sure he didn't give me too much or too little.
T +2:10 to 3:00
Lost track of time here. When the ketamine took effect, my balance was off and I had a ton of lapses in my short term memory. I would find myself in the washroom but had no recollection of how I get there. Then I'd find myself sitting down with some tobacco shisha prepared and a hookah hose in my hand but I couldn't tell if I just took a drag or not. I didn't like this feeling at all so I decided to kitty flip outta the situation. I eyeballed about 60-80 mg of MDMA and ingested it. K joined me even though he was having fun on the ketamine.
T +3:25
The MDMA took effect very quickly. My focus and short term memory came back. K said the ketamine is probably out of our system by now. In the blink of an eye, literally, I was bombarded with OEV's. It was as if I just put on a pair of rose-tinted glasses and started seeing a bunch of slowly pulsing, rainbow-colored spirals. The edges and patterns in floor tiles, walls, and objects would emanate a "lifeforce". To describe the OEV's as gorgeous would be an understatement. K claims he got OEV's in the blink of an eye as well and I believe him!
T +4:00
The OEV's were intense but not overwhelming. I had no problems looking for objects or seeing what was in front of me. My mind was lucid and I noticed this combo had a lot of time dilation. The vocals in the trance playlist sounded otherworldly and echoey and seemed to drag on forever. We were having eargasms. I sat in a couch by the window and the sun shown down on me. It was comforting... like a warm bath but with solar rays instead of water. I then glanced at the sun but it was too bright for me. I closed my eyes and was treated to rapidly morphing, orange/yellow flashing "Aztec sun gods" and Aztec architecture. I immediately thought of mescaline even though I've never had it. These CEV's were beautiful and I instantly gained a new appreciation for Meso-American art. After I opened my eyes I saw B sitting in lotus position. She looked more beautiful than ever. I could swear she had a visible aura and it was glowing. But, for some reason, I didn't feel attracted to her sexually. Shulgin said the honey flip was the lover's combo but I guess that wasn't the case for me. If anything, the candy flip makes me hornier than ever.
T +5:00 to 9:00
Both OEV's and CEV's stayed strong. B was in the same place we were even though she didn't flip it or take as much. We noticed there wasn't really a peak with 2C-B. It's more like a plateau that keeps on going. We had no nausea and spent most of our time stretching and lying around while listening to trance. None of us were chatty. We were raptured by one silent moment after another. After one of these moments, one of us would chime in with something like, "I'm glad to we could share this experience together." or, "It feels like everything is in its right place." I was pleased that this substance could "shut off" my thoughts and keep me in a state of tranquility. Not once did the thought of my financial woes, past failed relationships, or any other worries enter my mind. That, in my opinion, sets this psychedelic apart from the rest. The only experience that can put you in that state of mind is the peak on a high dose of shrooms but even then, it doesn't last that long. 2C-B embraces you gently and ever so slightly lets you go after 8+ hours.
Summary
2C-B is perfect for lounging. I wouldn't recommend it if you plan on dancing or going out to any high energy venues. Then again, I haven't taken this enough times to determine if it's purely for lounging. K & I found 2C-B to be quite shroom-like at times but without the anxiety, gut rot, or disorganized thoughts. To me, the shroom experience has the most ineffable and dreamlike feel but 2C-B comes in at a close second.
If I were to introduce a psychedelic to someone with anxiety issues or OCD, I would recommend 2C-B. It has a ton of therapeutic potential.
The only thing I didn't like was that it took forever to come up and we needed ketamine + MDMA to shift it into the next gear.
2C-B + MDMA + ketamine (all orally)
Dosage:
20 mg 2C-B in gelcap. Tested using Marquis giving yellow, changing to green, and then fading over time as per http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/512598-Marquis-Mecke-Mandellin-results-for-stim-empathogen-2C-X-RC-s-amp-more
Personal data
Male, 180lbs., 6'1", 20's, resistance training 2-3 times a week but no cardio. Diagnosed with clinical depression, ADHD, and OCD. I'm possibly bipolar but my psychiatrist can't seem to figure it out/won't give me a straight answer. Had really bad experiences with SSRI's, benzo's and other prescribed psych meds so I stopped taking them 2 years ago and refuse to take any ever again.
Medications and addictions:
Dexedrine XR 10-20mg orally as needed for studying. I try to limit my intake to no more than 3 times a week because they make me moody.
Accutane 10mg/day. I was about 4 days in at the time of the trip.
Set & Setting:
Friend's house in quiet neighborhood with my friends - M, F. Stereo system with a vocal trance playlist.
Rating:
10/10
Previous experiences:
* Alprazolam (Was prescribed. Used daily but haven't touched since 2009)
* Lorazepam (Was prescribed. Used daily but haven't touched since 2008 )
* Kratom (x4)
* LSD (x4)
* Shrooms (x11)
* 2C-E (x1)
* Salvia (x2)
* DXM (x3 - first plateau only)
* MDMA (Many times)
* Weed and hash (Many times but can no longer handle either. Haven't touched them in years.)
Substance appearance:
Off-white powder. Slightly clumpy. Sticks to inner walls of gel cap.
Closest previous trip: 10mg 2C-E + 4g shrooms + 1 tab LSD altogether a week before. 120 mg MDMA + 60 mg booster 2 hours the day before.
Tolerance:
None
Sensitivity:
Low
Addiction potential:
Low
Main effects:
Intense CEV's. Moderate OEV's. Lucid thought patterns and a constant feeling of tranquility.
Side effects:
None
After effects:
Some tiredness
Shulgin scale:
***. I would give it **** if I tripped the same way everytime I honey flip (with no tolerance going in of course). Time will tell as I intend on doing this again and again.
T 00:00
My friend procured three gelcaps with the 2C-B in them. He claimed they were 20 mg each. I weighed them and one fell short at 17 mg. M and I ate a large breakfast and we each ingested a 20mg pill an hour later. F joined in with a light breakfast of fruit and ingested the 17mg pill. She assumed it was 20 mg and I still haven't told her to this day that I gave her the smaller quantity. Keep in mind that she was much more petite than M & I and hasn't taken a psychedelic in months. We also took Mg, Vit A, and Vit D supplements. I passed on the Vit A since I was on accutane.
T +01:00
K & I felt absolutely nothing. B was flying. She put on shades because the visuals were a bit too overwhelming for her.
T +01:35
B still had her shades on and said she was on cloud 9. K & I still didn't feel anything. All 3 of us went to a nearby park. I was hoping something would happen if we changed our setting & activity.
T +01:50
I sat in a swing set and felt upset that the 2C-B hasn't kicked in yet. K felt the same. We all walked back to the house.
T +02:05
K decided to do some ketamine orally. I've never done it before but decided this was the right time to do it in the hopes it would let the 2C-B take effect. He prepared a parachute for me. I can't remember the dose but I'm sure he didn't give me too much or too little.
T +2:10 to 3:00
Lost track of time here. When the ketamine took effect, my balance was off and I had a ton of lapses in my short term memory. I would find myself in the washroom but had no recollection of how I get there. Then I'd find myself sitting down with some tobacco shisha prepared and a hookah hose in my hand but I couldn't tell if I just took a drag or not. I didn't like this feeling at all so I decided to kitty flip outta the situation. I eyeballed about 60-80 mg of MDMA and ingested it. K joined me even though he was having fun on the ketamine.
T +3:25
The MDMA took effect very quickly. My focus and short term memory came back. K said the ketamine is probably out of our system by now. In the blink of an eye, literally, I was bombarded with OEV's. It was as if I just put on a pair of rose-tinted glasses and started seeing a bunch of slowly pulsing, rainbow-colored spirals. The edges and patterns in floor tiles, walls, and objects would emanate a "lifeforce". To describe the OEV's as gorgeous would be an understatement. K claims he got OEV's in the blink of an eye as well and I believe him!
T +4:00
The OEV's were intense but not overwhelming. I had no problems looking for objects or seeing what was in front of me. My mind was lucid and I noticed this combo had a lot of time dilation. The vocals in the trance playlist sounded otherworldly and echoey and seemed to drag on forever. We were having eargasms. I sat in a couch by the window and the sun shown down on me. It was comforting... like a warm bath but with solar rays instead of water. I then glanced at the sun but it was too bright for me. I closed my eyes and was treated to rapidly morphing, orange/yellow flashing "Aztec sun gods" and Aztec architecture. I immediately thought of mescaline even though I've never had it. These CEV's were beautiful and I instantly gained a new appreciation for Meso-American art. After I opened my eyes I saw B sitting in lotus position. She looked more beautiful than ever. I could swear she had a visible aura and it was glowing. But, for some reason, I didn't feel attracted to her sexually. Shulgin said the honey flip was the lover's combo but I guess that wasn't the case for me. If anything, the candy flip makes me hornier than ever.
T +5:00 to 9:00
Both OEV's and CEV's stayed strong. B was in the same place we were even though she didn't flip it or take as much. We noticed there wasn't really a peak with 2C-B. It's more like a plateau that keeps on going. We had no nausea and spent most of our time stretching and lying around while listening to trance. None of us were chatty. We were raptured by one silent moment after another. After one of these moments, one of us would chime in with something like, "I'm glad to we could share this experience together." or, "It feels like everything is in its right place." I was pleased that this substance could "shut off" my thoughts and keep me in a state of tranquility. Not once did the thought of my financial woes, past failed relationships, or any other worries enter my mind. That, in my opinion, sets this psychedelic apart from the rest. The only experience that can put you in that state of mind is the peak on a high dose of shrooms but even then, it doesn't last that long. 2C-B embraces you gently and ever so slightly lets you go after 8+ hours.
Summary
2C-B is perfect for lounging. I wouldn't recommend it if you plan on dancing or going out to any high energy venues. Then again, I haven't taken this enough times to determine if it's purely for lounging. K & I found 2C-B to be quite shroom-like at times but without the anxiety, gut rot, or disorganized thoughts. To me, the shroom experience has the most ineffable and dreamlike feel but 2C-B comes in at a close second.
If I were to introduce a psychedelic to someone with anxiety issues or OCD, I would recommend 2C-B. It has a ton of therapeutic potential.
The only thing I didn't like was that it took forever to come up and we needed ketamine + MDMA to shift it into the next gear.
