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2C-B-Fly - 6 mg - Psycholytic Bliss

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After an initial test showed threshold activity at 2.2mg,it was decided to up this to 6mg,not yet expecting much though.I was surprised and think it deservs a TR.

T 00: ingestion of 6.0mg of 2c-b-fly.hcl in water on an empty stomach (20h fasting,as usual)

T +20min: 1. Reaction,a feeling that this one will develop very quiet

T +30min: buying food in the store,colors are suddenly enhanced,only slight visual enhancement.But it is not at all stimulating like 2c-b,actually relaxing/queting me down.I can see into peoples minds in a friendly way,the girl on the cash desk looks beautiful and has glowing eyes so the empathy is pronounced.

T +50min: back at home again,objects are starting to move a bit,some nausea present.

T +1h: maybe a +1 reached.This is not 2c-b,its a typical fly:I get considerable color enhancement,especially the blue's (unlike 2c-b).It feels like liquid honey where 2c-b is crytallised honey,flickering lights as in 50Hz screens/neon lights versus 100Hz silency,easily unrecognized,you can screen it out without problems,but in the underground it is still present.I can see others not finding effects at all.Very subtle,maybe a womans choice?

T +1.75h: checking the erotic,well,a bit a disappointment if you compare to 2c-b.A girl might change this as there is indeed a strong empathy provided.But its not a fuck drug.

T +2h: peak is reached,maybe a +1.5.Body feels perfectly fine.I'm putting in music (Sophya),relax on the chair and what follows is a wonderful 90min long journey,I was slowly sinking into a deep sea of tranquility,reached a level of full relaxation where I could evaluate difficult personal things in a forgiving way,but the fly put the priorities into the right order.Intellectual stimulation was remarkable,visually not much,no EC's,its a very heady drug!The dark wave style but yet very calm and hypnotic Sophya sound is so good for tripping (some dumbed down called it boring...),the melancholic rythm is gently carrying me forward,I felt pure euphoria,the smooth female voice of Sonia like a massage of the soul.Here it is again,I could feel like a woman,I think the subtlety of the drug can only be fully experienced by a woman,a drug for females?Lack of depth?Well,does the female soul have a lack of depth?

T +4h: coming back to the daily life realities,the drug is wearing off and I'm hungry.Food tastes good.

T +5h: Seems like baseline,but objects are still shifting.How easily you can overlook the effects,its just under the radarscreen of the conscious.Theres some tactile enhancement present from the beginning,but the body feeling is like caramel,cream caramel.
I smoke a good cigar and watch the sun coming out putting the colors of the fall trees on glow.

T +7h:baseline def. here now.Sleep that evening will be normal.

This experience is putting me ever more in the psycholytic camp,but will definitively try it higher again.Saw some who took 20mg but they didn't provide tolerance infos.Its not a entheogenic compound,thats for sure,but I liked the heady space.I have always to occupy my brain or I'll get restless.

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interesting.. thanks for reporting! I hope more reports from 2CBFly come in. So far it doesnt seem to be superior to 2CB in any way besides efficient dosages. But it sounds like it has definite potential, maybe at higher doses we will see.
 
congrats on having the first public report of 2c-b-fly. You should submit it to erowid.

Psilo, i think that perhaps at higher doses this one might turn out to be just as special as 2cb (this is just speculation, BTW.) The 20mg report in PD makes it sound pretty good. The only thing is it doesnt seem like it will be as potent as we all thought/hoped. It looks only slightly more potent than 2c-b.
 
I agree with Cat Again. 2C-B doesn't hit it's magic until 25mg everything below is sort of lacking well the fun aspect, it's just a matter of time before we find the sweet spot for 2C-B-Fly.
 
One has now seen posts ranging from 2.2 mg. to 22 mg., with several at 10, 12.5, 16, 20, & 22 mg. Most of the writers gave only brief cursory reports, though.

Some excerpts below:

“I love this drug all so mild on the body for me i feel there is a lot more potential to up the dosage everything is just too beautiful outdoors im constantly feeling amazing with this music on still… For sex this goes along PERFECT… theres been no depth to it or at least not this time round.” Someone who reported ingestion of 20 mg.

“i would say 'A' .. really nice material… feeling alot like mdma. It does have an empathy and openess component but its not as inappropriate as with mdma. Nice patterning, color enhancement, CEV's some vivid. Very somatic I can feel my body very well… From what i've read of 2c-b it seems to be pretty much the same. Overall i would say its not a very deep chemical, but quite enjoyable.” Someone who reported ingestion of 22 mg.

“T+ 12 hours, 12.5mg, had a "pleasant evening" it felt nice ,the come up is very steady, very physical type of hit , sex excellent but not in the same leauge as 4aco Mipt, visuals were inferred rather than seen. Overall a nice(if somewhat pricey) material but probably not one for the shamans amongst us… i'd give it a B+.” Someone who reported ingestion of 12.5 mg.

“day 2 at 22mg there was a definite noted tolerance with little visuals, not as euphoric feeling somatic component still present in full” Someone who reported ingesting 22 mg. after having taken a similar dose the day previous.


“Took about 90 minutes to be noted, with feelings of chills/temperature change. Didn’t really hit until about T + 2h… T+6.5h still effects… T+8.5 still effects, but at most +1… T+12h sleep possible and achieved. Slept near on 12 hours, awoke with no notable after effects… Some tummy awareness, some chills, and pupil dilation. No other significant side-effects noted… very balanced material, a little mood lift, a little patterning, a little depth of thought, a little aesthetic appreciation, good CEV… Not bad material, but it seems that every aspect can be done better by some other material… will attempt again around 20-23 mg. If there is nothing ‘special’ there, will probably not seek to do again. Again not bad stuff, but so far nothing that cant be beaten by another material for each particular aspect (2C-E for visuals, 2C-I for introspection, MDxx for body feelings, etc.). If it’s safety profile were known to be favorable, it might be a good ‘trainer’ psychedelic, as one would be hard pressed to freak out on this one, at least at this dosage.” Someone who reported ingestion of 16 mg.

“don´t expect too much folks, because I was quite disappointed - the 10mgs were very boring...” Someone who reported ingestion of 10 mg.

“T+1h: Mild stimulatory and entactogenic are effects are noticed, as well as some mild nausea. Slight CEV's are noted.
T+1.5h: Slight ego loss is apparent, mild synesthesia also noted. OEV's are extremely mild, much less hallucinogenic than 2-CE; however, the body component is highly pronounced.
T+4h: Body component loses it's "warmth", leaving a "lossier" bodyload than I would find typical of 2-Cx's. Sexual enhancement is non-existant, in fact, every attempt at gratification is abruptly halted by the distraction of something completely non-sexual in nature. No vascular constriction is noticed, and vascular dysfunction normally felt even in sobriety has now dissipiated altogether, long after the effects of the drug have worn off.
T+8h: Baseline. A gentle crash, I found sleep quite easily. Overall 2-CB-FLY is an enjoyable material, and while not Earth-shatteringly awe-inspiring, could definitely pose as an excellent intermediary to truely psychedelic compounds like LSD or 2-CE.” Someone who reported ingestion of 10 mg.

Abstracting from the above, it may be that the ‘sweet spot’ is around 20 mg.?? This does not sound that far-fetched as Shulgin in the Tucson paper notes oral activity at 10 mg. and his entry for 2C-B notes an activity range of 12-24 mg. and many people find about 20-30 mg. of 2C-B to be their preferred range. (20% more potent??)
Also regarding duration… one has heard scattered reports of up to 9-14h duration. From the reports above 7-10h appears more likely the case.
Regarding effects, possibly similar to 2C-B but more relaxed/even sedating?? The reports of sexual enhancement/imagery are mixed.

Ok that is just my input regarding what I have seen posted on several different boards etc.



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As a person who finds 2C-B to be a greatly over-hyped, over-rated psychedelic, I look foward to an alternative. From the sounds of this report, it seems 2C-B-FLY may offer something missing from 2C-B. I very much look foward to trying this compound (as opposed to BRDF, and DOB) some time soon.
 
Hey MGS not to get off topic but have you tried DOC yet? Im curious to see what you think about it since you seem to be able to nab very small differences between substances.


And yeah, I want to try 2CBFly too. I like 2C-B a lot (but dont give it more credit than its worth - its simply a 'fun, colorful' psychedelic to me that doesnt want to become too deep).
 
very nice. how did you end up overcoming your nausia, just the power of thought?
 
No Psilo, I have not yet tried it. While it is 'next on the list', with my schedule and other things going on, it will prolly be a while until I get around to actually sampling it. Seems like a substance in which I better take a few days off work to be sure. I don't have the kind of job where I can go into it tripping.
 
This substance is amazing if you take enough. I went ahead and did 38mg and *WOW* it was very visually intense and still very easy on my body i wonder how much higher this can be taken :)
 
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This substance is amazing if you take enough. I went ahead and did 38mg and *WOW* it was very visually intense and still very easy on my body i wonder how much higher this can be taken :)

Have you taken 2C-B, and if so, what major differences become appearant at that dosage?
 
No i've never taken 2cb so cant comment. Heres my thoughts from another thread

Sorry for not posting back 8) I ingested 38mg last night with the gf (20mg gf - first time tripping) I wasnt prepared for how intense it would be this time round very much like a completely different drug. It took me around 60-80 mins to comeup and everything was whirling, flowing, changing leading your mind into it. Outside OMG utter amazing just a shame the gf was getting pretty head fucked and seeing everything freaky (she defintely felt that sinister dark side) even i was seeing scary ghosty faces in the carpet but as i looked out the bedroom window freaked me the fuck out only time i got scared and the gf had vanished. Really wish i could of really explored outside ah well i blame halloweeen! A really cool visual i learnt to do later on was morph shapes out of light

The visuals kept trying to become much more intense on me and takeover but as it happend to me the gf would keep getting freaked not to say she didnt love it but it looked like from the start she was going to get a bad trip good job i couldnt find the gbl haha. She described it as a horrible morbid feeling taking over, claws scratching and after a feeling of being DEAD.

The eurphoria was pretty similair to mdma just less powerful

10/10 :D For me there was just about no body load hope the price comes down for this beauty 38mg+ will make an exspensive trip but worth it :) A+++ better than acid :) It was intense yes but in an very controllable manner

Id say i was peaking for around 6hours and the gf possibly longer and hers was a long comeup like i had at the same dose also she seems to get very head fucked drugs.
 
^^ Thank you for your contribution. Are you planning on trying a lower dose or the same dose? This interests me ALOT now that I love 2C-B so much :D

Perhaps I'll try this when I get some more $$ and make an accurate comparasion.
 
I'm kinda fucked for cash for the next few weeks sadly if i could get some now id be upping the dose to say 45mg as it is now £50 is too much for 2-3 trips. Wonder how high i can take this, absolutely perfect on my body and hard for the gf.

You should try it worth the cash for this baby oh yes but maybe not worth it in the lower mg dose range ;)

fucking heavy fines i gotta pay :o
 
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@Mean Girl: nausea was only minor and went away quickly.I don't think it is a problem with it going higher.And I'm looking forward to go higher.

A curiosity was the 2.2mg exp. ,I thought I felt almost nothing from it (close to placebo) but when I went to bed (at T+7h,certainly out I thought),I had difficulty finding sleep and had, to my big surprise,CEV !Another hint that much of its action must be "under the radar",and I thought I have an unusual low level...

Btw I'm familiar with 2c-b (in the 16-28mg range),don't think the fly has dark sides.If theres still something after the novelty factor is gone remains to be seen.
 
The GF felt naseus most the way through the trip what i had was only minor and got flushed down the toilet pretty quickly. As for the darkside what would you call her experience? At the start and the end!
 
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