fairnymph
Ex-Bluelighter
Beautiful But Scary -- 2cb -- First Time
This was my first time trying 2cb, although I am very experienced with a wide range of psychedelics and stimulants.
At around 6:45 pm, I orally ingested 23 mg of 2cb.hbr (equivalent to 20 mg of the hydrochloride). The 2cb appeared to be very clean and pure (a fluffy, slightly offwhite/greyish powder). As I had long awaited trying this substance, I settled down with my bf, who was also trying 2cb for the first time. Both of us had relatively empty stomachs, and were feeling good in general.
I started to feel the effects first; 20 or so minutes after taking the 2cb, I noticed some slight tension in my stomach and a touch of nausea. 15 minutes later, nausea and fairly severe stomach discomfort had completely overwhelmed me. It was quite reminiscent of my times on 2ct7, in fact. My bf was still feeling pretty sober...he felt a touch of 'that weird, uneasy psychedelic come-up' feeling, but not much more. I wasn't tripping yet but I certainly wasn't sober either.
Over the next 15 minutes, the psychedelic effects of the drug really kicked in. The first thing I noticed was that my sense of smell became very powerful. I have, and have always had, a very good and sensitive nose and sense of taste. I am heavily influenced by smells, and they carry alot of emotional weight with me. As the 2cb's effects washed over me, I suddenly became acutely aware of the strong smell of incense, even though we hadn't burnt any incense in a couple of days. I motioned for my bf to come over and yep, I could smell his scent strongly too.
Next, I became VERY cold, shivering under blankets and turning the heater on. Even as the heat in our apartment skyrocketed, I remained icy cold -- nipples erect, teeth shattering, and feeling fairly unpleasant overall. Clearly, the drug was disrupting my thermoregulation (I had a similar problem on a high dose of MDA once, and in general I am always cold on phenethylamines).
At this point, I was feeling TOO high for my liking, and cursing myself for taking such a strong dose of a new drug. I was also realizing that 2cb was an intensely psychedelic drug -- not the 'somewhat trippy mdma' that I had somehow been imagining in my mind. 2cb definitely felt a lot more like acid or, in particular 2ct7, to me.
I felt a substantial body high -- very much on the surface of my skin (another trend I've noticed with PEA's), like MDMA and other amphetamine body highs. It was pleasant; strongly tingly and tactile. I wasn't enjoying it fully, however, because of my thermoregulatory issues. I was still extremely cold, but every so often I would abruptly become extremely HOT (which is not good at all, as being hot can induce a full blown panic attack in me).
It seemed that I was never able to maintain a stable, comfortable body temperature. I also realized the turning up the heat and adding on layers of clothing would do nothing -- my brain was telling me to be cold (and hot) and there was little I could do about it.
Meanwhile, my stomach pain and nausea were still very present, and with the addition of my sensation of extreme cold, I wasn't feeling too happy. It's possible that at this point some euphoria had kicked in, but I was too wrapped up in my unpleasantly visceral experience of the drug to notice.
By this time, maybe an hour after ingestion, my bf had started looking at our stucco ceiling in blissful amazement. Although he was concerned about me and my state of general unpleasantness, he was definitely enjoying himself. Oddly enough, though I had the other effects of the 2cb kick in a good 15-30 minutes before they did so for my bf, I didn't really begin to experience the visual effects until about 15 minutes after my bf first did.
Let me just comment here that I am not a very visual person, when it comes to psychedelic drugs. I am prone to auditory hallucinations, but not visual ones. I don't get visuals on acid, shrooms, ketamine, or any of the 5-meo's. The only drug that I had ever had visuals on was 2ct7 (and only by IVing it -- see that trip report for further detail -- orally I had only some 'breathing' type visuals). So, I wasn't really expecting anything amazing visual-wise with the 2cb -- though I was hoping that I might have a more visual response to 2c compounds in general, due to my 2ct7 experiences.
The first visual I noticed was what is commonly called a 'colour shift' -- I noticed that the walls and light had taken on a rosy/pinkish glow (my bf agreed). I then began to notice movement, as the natural marks in the stucco began to move. At first it looked like two identical layers in a photoshop page, one sliding back and forth on top of the other.
Gradually the movement increased in speed and intensity, and I saw many circular patterns and swirling movements. Still, no real colour changes or hallucinations other than the colour shift.
I had lost most sense of time at this point and was a bit too high to interact with people (other than my also very high bf), or go out in public. Walking around required a bit of concentration, though I didn't feel 'head-fucked' as I do on shrooms or acid. My mind was slightly fogged by the overwhelming sensation and moderately intense visuals at that point, but I could still think relatively clearly.
My nausea, thank god, had calmed down pretty much completely, though my gastrointestinal system still wasn't happy.
Suddenly, my ass felt like it was going to explode. (I guess there is no way to state that delicately, heh.) I ran to the bathroom where I experienced some fairly intense diarrhea and some serious gas. I almost was worried that I would spend all night there, trapped in the sensation of my leaking ass. Fortunately, I was able to return to the couch after a bit.
We decided to put on some music, a platipus trance cd. Our psychedelic state definitely enhanced the music, which sounded particularily beautiful and vibrant. One song had a sound effect that sounded, to me at least, like dogs barking...and I could hear other creatures and sounds of nature hidden within the music. The heater was also making some sounds, rattling sounds 'like a beast was crawling up it', I remarked to my bf while hiding (semi-afraid) under a blanket. People in our apt building were being loud, stomping around, slamming doors, talking loudly. Every sound seemed greatly magnified; footsteps sounded like thunder and my bf and I would look at each other in mild terror after every clamoring we heard. We were definitely feeling a bit paranoid, but it wasn't overwhelming and we were able to calm down fairly easily.
The visuals were extremely intense at this point (perhaps 2 hours after ingestion). I was seeing more swirling, some rapid 'breathing' motion in the corner of my eye (VERY similar to my IV 2ct7 experience). I began to see some blacklight/violet coloured outlines as well as rainbow outlines. My vision was blurred by the overlay of circular, colourfully tinged patterns. Altogether, I found the visuals extremely similar to the visuals I got from 2ct7, though they were not quite as intense. Still, I was quite impressed by their intensity, especially given my not-so-visual tendencies.
My bf was feeling absolutely fantastic, euphoric, and was not experiencing many negative physical effects. I was feeling the 'pushy' positiveness of the 2cb as well, though I was still cold, and still gastrointestinally disturbed. We went through a fit of giggling and silliness that was quite enjoyable.
Unfortunately, as the effects of the 2cb seemed to increase, I was beginning to notice a particularily unwelcome side effect. I seemed to be convulsing slightly. I had seen seizures and convulsions before, and it was terrifying to feel those same motions happening in my own body. The convulsions were obviously not extreme (or I'd have called 911), but they were serious enough to freak me out substantially. My bf was also looking quite concerned (his mother having had many seizures before she died, he was familar with them and thus knew that something was not right with me).
I wasn't quite sure what to do, though, since I was also tripping very hard, and aware that I have anxiety issues, and that I might be unnecessarily freaking out. Still, I have enough medical knowledge to know that even 'slight' convulsions couldn't possibly be good. I decided either way that taking 10 mg of valium couldn't hurt -- it would calm both my nervous system and my mind. The valium seemed to take a while to kick in, but when it did I noticed the convulsions slowing down and finally stopping.
I also began feeling slightly tired, though I was still fully trippimg...an odd sensation to say the least. I was still experiencing the unpleasant extremes of temperatures and was feeling bloated and gaseous (and burping occasionally).
Fairly quickly my bf and came down, about 3-3.5 hours after ingestion. I was feeling a LOT better, calmer and more euphoric. It definitely hadn't been that pleasant of a ride, which disappointed me considering how much I had built up the 2cb experience in my mind. My bf, however, was relishing in how wondrous an experience he'd had.
We had planned to explore 2cb's supposed sexual side, but this obviously didn't happen due to my unpleasant physical effects. But, we both agreed that there were 'moments' during the trip when sex would have been appealing. Perhaps at a lower, more comfortable dose I would have explored this aspect of 2cb.
I look forward to experiecing 2cb again, at a lower dosage (10 mg of the hcl, and working up to 15 mg). I have never had any sort of seizures of convulsions in response to any drug, and I've done a lot of drugs. I strongly caution everyone to START LOW when trying a drug for the first time. I made the mistake of thinking that since 2cb is considered a fairly safe and oft-used drug, that I could start with a strong dose. I definitely didn't suffer any damage from the experience, but I am sure that I would have enjoyed myself a lot more with a lower dose. This is the only time I have every done a high dose of a new substance, and I don't plan on ever doing such a thing again. You can always take more, but you can't undo a dose that's too large.
[Fixed some formatting problems due to pasting from evil word processor
-Splatt]
[ 19 January 2003: Message edited by: Splatt ]
This was my first time trying 2cb, although I am very experienced with a wide range of psychedelics and stimulants.
At around 6:45 pm, I orally ingested 23 mg of 2cb.hbr (equivalent to 20 mg of the hydrochloride). The 2cb appeared to be very clean and pure (a fluffy, slightly offwhite/greyish powder). As I had long awaited trying this substance, I settled down with my bf, who was also trying 2cb for the first time. Both of us had relatively empty stomachs, and were feeling good in general.
I started to feel the effects first; 20 or so minutes after taking the 2cb, I noticed some slight tension in my stomach and a touch of nausea. 15 minutes later, nausea and fairly severe stomach discomfort had completely overwhelmed me. It was quite reminiscent of my times on 2ct7, in fact. My bf was still feeling pretty sober...he felt a touch of 'that weird, uneasy psychedelic come-up' feeling, but not much more. I wasn't tripping yet but I certainly wasn't sober either.
Over the next 15 minutes, the psychedelic effects of the drug really kicked in. The first thing I noticed was that my sense of smell became very powerful. I have, and have always had, a very good and sensitive nose and sense of taste. I am heavily influenced by smells, and they carry alot of emotional weight with me. As the 2cb's effects washed over me, I suddenly became acutely aware of the strong smell of incense, even though we hadn't burnt any incense in a couple of days. I motioned for my bf to come over and yep, I could smell his scent strongly too.
Next, I became VERY cold, shivering under blankets and turning the heater on. Even as the heat in our apartment skyrocketed, I remained icy cold -- nipples erect, teeth shattering, and feeling fairly unpleasant overall. Clearly, the drug was disrupting my thermoregulation (I had a similar problem on a high dose of MDA once, and in general I am always cold on phenethylamines).
At this point, I was feeling TOO high for my liking, and cursing myself for taking such a strong dose of a new drug. I was also realizing that 2cb was an intensely psychedelic drug -- not the 'somewhat trippy mdma' that I had somehow been imagining in my mind. 2cb definitely felt a lot more like acid or, in particular 2ct7, to me.
I felt a substantial body high -- very much on the surface of my skin (another trend I've noticed with PEA's), like MDMA and other amphetamine body highs. It was pleasant; strongly tingly and tactile. I wasn't enjoying it fully, however, because of my thermoregulatory issues. I was still extremely cold, but every so often I would abruptly become extremely HOT (which is not good at all, as being hot can induce a full blown panic attack in me).
It seemed that I was never able to maintain a stable, comfortable body temperature. I also realized the turning up the heat and adding on layers of clothing would do nothing -- my brain was telling me to be cold (and hot) and there was little I could do about it.
Meanwhile, my stomach pain and nausea were still very present, and with the addition of my sensation of extreme cold, I wasn't feeling too happy. It's possible that at this point some euphoria had kicked in, but I was too wrapped up in my unpleasantly visceral experience of the drug to notice.
By this time, maybe an hour after ingestion, my bf had started looking at our stucco ceiling in blissful amazement. Although he was concerned about me and my state of general unpleasantness, he was definitely enjoying himself. Oddly enough, though I had the other effects of the 2cb kick in a good 15-30 minutes before they did so for my bf, I didn't really begin to experience the visual effects until about 15 minutes after my bf first did.
Let me just comment here that I am not a very visual person, when it comes to psychedelic drugs. I am prone to auditory hallucinations, but not visual ones. I don't get visuals on acid, shrooms, ketamine, or any of the 5-meo's. The only drug that I had ever had visuals on was 2ct7 (and only by IVing it -- see that trip report for further detail -- orally I had only some 'breathing' type visuals). So, I wasn't really expecting anything amazing visual-wise with the 2cb -- though I was hoping that I might have a more visual response to 2c compounds in general, due to my 2ct7 experiences.
The first visual I noticed was what is commonly called a 'colour shift' -- I noticed that the walls and light had taken on a rosy/pinkish glow (my bf agreed). I then began to notice movement, as the natural marks in the stucco began to move. At first it looked like two identical layers in a photoshop page, one sliding back and forth on top of the other.
Gradually the movement increased in speed and intensity, and I saw many circular patterns and swirling movements. Still, no real colour changes or hallucinations other than the colour shift.
I had lost most sense of time at this point and was a bit too high to interact with people (other than my also very high bf), or go out in public. Walking around required a bit of concentration, though I didn't feel 'head-fucked' as I do on shrooms or acid. My mind was slightly fogged by the overwhelming sensation and moderately intense visuals at that point, but I could still think relatively clearly.
My nausea, thank god, had calmed down pretty much completely, though my gastrointestinal system still wasn't happy.
Suddenly, my ass felt like it was going to explode. (I guess there is no way to state that delicately, heh.) I ran to the bathroom where I experienced some fairly intense diarrhea and some serious gas. I almost was worried that I would spend all night there, trapped in the sensation of my leaking ass. Fortunately, I was able to return to the couch after a bit.
We decided to put on some music, a platipus trance cd. Our psychedelic state definitely enhanced the music, which sounded particularily beautiful and vibrant. One song had a sound effect that sounded, to me at least, like dogs barking...and I could hear other creatures and sounds of nature hidden within the music. The heater was also making some sounds, rattling sounds 'like a beast was crawling up it', I remarked to my bf while hiding (semi-afraid) under a blanket. People in our apt building were being loud, stomping around, slamming doors, talking loudly. Every sound seemed greatly magnified; footsteps sounded like thunder and my bf and I would look at each other in mild terror after every clamoring we heard. We were definitely feeling a bit paranoid, but it wasn't overwhelming and we were able to calm down fairly easily.
The visuals were extremely intense at this point (perhaps 2 hours after ingestion). I was seeing more swirling, some rapid 'breathing' motion in the corner of my eye (VERY similar to my IV 2ct7 experience). I began to see some blacklight/violet coloured outlines as well as rainbow outlines. My vision was blurred by the overlay of circular, colourfully tinged patterns. Altogether, I found the visuals extremely similar to the visuals I got from 2ct7, though they were not quite as intense. Still, I was quite impressed by their intensity, especially given my not-so-visual tendencies.
My bf was feeling absolutely fantastic, euphoric, and was not experiencing many negative physical effects. I was feeling the 'pushy' positiveness of the 2cb as well, though I was still cold, and still gastrointestinally disturbed. We went through a fit of giggling and silliness that was quite enjoyable.
Unfortunately, as the effects of the 2cb seemed to increase, I was beginning to notice a particularily unwelcome side effect. I seemed to be convulsing slightly. I had seen seizures and convulsions before, and it was terrifying to feel those same motions happening in my own body. The convulsions were obviously not extreme (or I'd have called 911), but they were serious enough to freak me out substantially. My bf was also looking quite concerned (his mother having had many seizures before she died, he was familar with them and thus knew that something was not right with me).
I wasn't quite sure what to do, though, since I was also tripping very hard, and aware that I have anxiety issues, and that I might be unnecessarily freaking out. Still, I have enough medical knowledge to know that even 'slight' convulsions couldn't possibly be good. I decided either way that taking 10 mg of valium couldn't hurt -- it would calm both my nervous system and my mind. The valium seemed to take a while to kick in, but when it did I noticed the convulsions slowing down and finally stopping.
I also began feeling slightly tired, though I was still fully trippimg...an odd sensation to say the least. I was still experiencing the unpleasant extremes of temperatures and was feeling bloated and gaseous (and burping occasionally).
Fairly quickly my bf and came down, about 3-3.5 hours after ingestion. I was feeling a LOT better, calmer and more euphoric. It definitely hadn't been that pleasant of a ride, which disappointed me considering how much I had built up the 2cb experience in my mind. My bf, however, was relishing in how wondrous an experience he'd had.
We had planned to explore 2cb's supposed sexual side, but this obviously didn't happen due to my unpleasant physical effects. But, we both agreed that there were 'moments' during the trip when sex would have been appealing. Perhaps at a lower, more comfortable dose I would have explored this aspect of 2cb.
I look forward to experiecing 2cb again, at a lower dosage (10 mg of the hcl, and working up to 15 mg). I have never had any sort of seizures of convulsions in response to any drug, and I've done a lot of drugs. I strongly caution everyone to START LOW when trying a drug for the first time. I made the mistake of thinking that since 2cb is considered a fairly safe and oft-used drug, that I could start with a strong dose. I definitely didn't suffer any damage from the experience, but I am sure that I would have enjoyed myself a lot more with a lower dose. This is the only time I have every done a high dose of a new substance, and I don't plan on ever doing such a thing again. You can always take more, but you can't undo a dose that's too large.
[Fixed some formatting problems due to pasting from evil word processor
-Splatt][ 19 January 2003: Message edited by: Splatt ]
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