2C-B First Time - 20mg or 25mg?

[shaed]

Planning to do some 2C-B with my girlfriend and am wondering which dose would be better for the first time? I've had previous experience with psychedelics but she hasn't.
She wants to experience visuals without it being too overwhelming as she is very interested in what psychedelics are like. I have checked erowid and understand that people react differently to different dosages of 2C-B and that the difference in only a few mg can be quite intense.

So, would 20 or 25mg be a better dose for someone who has never tried any psychedelics but wants a real psychedelic experience?

Any advice/experiences would be appreciated, thanks.

 

[Lazaraus45]

why not 20mg this time round and up it next time if it's not good enough?

 

[shaed]

We're going away together and wanted to try it while there

 

[Lazaraus45]

ahh that's fair enough, well 25mg should be a decent dose, 2c-b is a very easy going psych so even if it were over the dosage needed by a little bit it should be fine, of course, if possible, having a few benzos on hand would be handy just in case

 

[Chikkenstorm]

It's impossible to say, since you don't know her tolerance (and yours) to the 2C-'s. However, if you want to rule out getting an overwhelming experience, you should start low. 16mg is the usual starting point for 2C-B IIRC, but since you've only got one shot at it I'd say go for the 20mg; 2C-B is a forgiving drug to most people. If you know from your past experiences you handle your psychedelics well, you can go for 25mg yourself but I wouldn't recommend that to someone who's never done any psych and isn't open to tripping too hard.

Also, for me the response-curve is kinda weird and I've read this from other people as well: my trip on 24mg was more visual than when I took 32mg. 32mg got me tripping way harder though, don't get me wrong, but it wasn't visual. It was... Well, different, it was like I forgot how to do most basic tasks, like taking a shower, cooking a simple meal or even properly use a knife and fork. The 24mg was way more speedy/euphoric with some nice (but somewhat subtle) visuals, far more enjoyable for me. I must say that I have a fairly high natural tolerance to the 2C-'s though, so those doses might be a bit high for most people.

 

[Zalo]

I'd say give her 20mg. Personally 21mg does almost nothing for me, but I gave my friend 17mg a few days ago, it was also his first psychedelic experience, and he had some awesome visuals from what he was telling me.

 

[kingme]

hr oriented, id say go small at first. so perhaps 20 is enough.

however, i first gave 2cb to a friend at 17mg and he was not only unimpressed but plagued with side effects: tension, nausea and a lack of desire to move - couchlock basically.
same friend tried 22mg some tine later and complained of none of the sideeffects and came back with a great experience.

for a first time though, id still say go low. if she doesnt have adverse reactions or doesnt mind snorting, she can top up with a few mg in the first hours of the trip.

low dose 2cb though ime isnt that much of a psychedelic experience as much as a hedonistic visual entactogen one.