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Last night I had my second experience of the incredible synergy between 2C-B and alcohol. This was my second concert experience with this combination in only a few days.
Unlike the previous show where I went with a group of friends and knew many people, this time I went alone. It was a bit awkward for awhile. I just wandered around by myself looking for people I knew and watching the situation like it was a social experiment.
Like last time, I should have taken the 2C-B slightly earlier as it wasn't until the headlining band 'Explosions in the Sky' came on that I took the capsule containing the 15mg 2C-B (I thought there was another band going on before them). As I had taken this same dose of 2C-B only two days prior, I was concerned tolerance would be an issue, but it did not seem to be. When I took the 2C-B I had consumed approximately 5 beer and was already starting to feel pretty good.
Anyone who knows this band, would probably agree that this is amazing music for tripping. Incredible beauty, creativity, passion and tension. All without saying a word. This was my third time seeing this band over the years, and it has always been a great show. They easily rank as one of my favorites.
Although I was mostly coming up during the set, I didn't feel any discomfort or nausea at all and the show was amazing. I was spellbound for most of the set and was able to learn a lot about the bands sound and how they create the music they do. My only regret is that I didn't bring my camera (which also takes 640x480 30fps video), but when I bring it to shows I often find my self looking through the viewscreen rather than at show, and it can sometimes be a distraction.
After the show I went outside and the 2C-B really had kicked in. I felt amazing and lucid. It reminded me soo much of MDMA. There was 'magic' in the air like the first few intense experiences with MDMA, but it was much less forced. Alcohols effect on dopamine could be partly responsible for this increased euphoric effect. I hope this 'magic' never goes away with 2C-B as it does with MDMA, only time will tell. I have not lost the 'magic' of MDMA as I use it extremely sparingly (~6 times total over the last 7-8 years) partly because I am concerned of possibility of neurotoxicity and partly because the purity of 'ecstasy' these days can often be dubious at best. I feel 2C-B to be a safer alternative and its definitely part of my own 'magical half dozen'. There are more concerts coming up and I look forward to trying this combination again in the future.
The street car/bus ride home was amazing. All the lights of the city were like jewels. I kept thinking about things like upotian pharmacology and the concepts of designer states of consciousness. A 'Brave New World Order' or utopia, the choice is ours. My mind was racing with psychedelic thoughts, yet there was no threat to my concept of self and no depersonalization which seems to happen a lot with tryptamines.
I came home, listened to music, drank another beer and smoked some cannabis. My state of mind was still very euphoric and MDMA like, but I could feel the 2C-B starting to wear off, leaving a drunk/stoned feeling I am more familiar with. I took some NAC/vitamin c and drank some orange juice as I knew that it was only a matter of time before acetaldehyde, the toxic metabolite of alcohol (30x more toxic that alcohol itself) built up and would be bringing my night to an unremarkable close. The come down was almost non-existent compared to MDMA. It was still present as 'what goes up must come down', but very smooth and I wasn't left dysphoric and empty which is common with MDMA.
I found it ironic that the nickname for 2C-B is 'Nexus" as it felt a little bit like the "nexus" in the movie "Star Trek: Generations". An artificial utopia of ones own making. As I sat there eating my meatless vegetarian chicken burgers and thinking about the amazing night, I couldn't help but feel I was somehow cheating, (in more than one way), by not only having such a good cake, but eating it too.
Unlike the previous show where I went with a group of friends and knew many people, this time I went alone. It was a bit awkward for awhile. I just wandered around by myself looking for people I knew and watching the situation like it was a social experiment.
Like last time, I should have taken the 2C-B slightly earlier as it wasn't until the headlining band 'Explosions in the Sky' came on that I took the capsule containing the 15mg 2C-B (I thought there was another band going on before them). As I had taken this same dose of 2C-B only two days prior, I was concerned tolerance would be an issue, but it did not seem to be. When I took the 2C-B I had consumed approximately 5 beer and was already starting to feel pretty good.
Anyone who knows this band, would probably agree that this is amazing music for tripping. Incredible beauty, creativity, passion and tension. All without saying a word. This was my third time seeing this band over the years, and it has always been a great show. They easily rank as one of my favorites.
Although I was mostly coming up during the set, I didn't feel any discomfort or nausea at all and the show was amazing. I was spellbound for most of the set and was able to learn a lot about the bands sound and how they create the music they do. My only regret is that I didn't bring my camera (which also takes 640x480 30fps video), but when I bring it to shows I often find my self looking through the viewscreen rather than at show, and it can sometimes be a distraction.
After the show I went outside and the 2C-B really had kicked in. I felt amazing and lucid. It reminded me soo much of MDMA. There was 'magic' in the air like the first few intense experiences with MDMA, but it was much less forced. Alcohols effect on dopamine could be partly responsible for this increased euphoric effect. I hope this 'magic' never goes away with 2C-B as it does with MDMA, only time will tell. I have not lost the 'magic' of MDMA as I use it extremely sparingly (~6 times total over the last 7-8 years) partly because I am concerned of possibility of neurotoxicity and partly because the purity of 'ecstasy' these days can often be dubious at best. I feel 2C-B to be a safer alternative and its definitely part of my own 'magical half dozen'. There are more concerts coming up and I look forward to trying this combination again in the future.
The street car/bus ride home was amazing. All the lights of the city were like jewels. I kept thinking about things like upotian pharmacology and the concepts of designer states of consciousness. A 'Brave New World Order' or utopia, the choice is ours. My mind was racing with psychedelic thoughts, yet there was no threat to my concept of self and no depersonalization which seems to happen a lot with tryptamines.
I came home, listened to music, drank another beer and smoked some cannabis. My state of mind was still very euphoric and MDMA like, but I could feel the 2C-B starting to wear off, leaving a drunk/stoned feeling I am more familiar with. I took some NAC/vitamin c and drank some orange juice as I knew that it was only a matter of time before acetaldehyde, the toxic metabolite of alcohol (30x more toxic that alcohol itself) built up and would be bringing my night to an unremarkable close. The come down was almost non-existent compared to MDMA. It was still present as 'what goes up must come down', but very smooth and I wasn't left dysphoric and empty which is common with MDMA.
The primary detoxification mechanism for scavenging unmetabolized acetaldehyde is sulfur-containing antioxidants [see Figure A]. The two most important are cysteine, a conditionally essential amino acid, and glutathione, a cysteine-containing tripeptide...
In one experiment with rodents [Sprince et al., 1974], a LD-90 dose of acetaldehyde (the dose that would normally kill 90% of the animals) was completely blocked by pretreatment of the animals with cysteine and vitamins B-1 and C. In other words, none of the cysteine-treated animals succumbed to the lethal dose of acetaldehyde! N-Acetylcysteine (NAC) protected almost as well as cysteine...
...the pharmacologic and toxic effect of alcohol are different. The pharmacological effect (i.e., intoxication or drunkenness) is not inhibited by vitamin C or cysteine, but the toxic effect (e.g., the hangover, nervous irritability, swimming difficulty) is inhibited. This suggests that, with alcohol, you can “have your cake and eat it too.”
I found it ironic that the nickname for 2C-B is 'Nexus" as it felt a little bit like the "nexus" in the movie "Star Trek: Generations". An artificial utopia of ones own making. As I sat there eating my meatless vegetarian chicken burgers and thinking about the amazing night, I couldn't help but feel I was somehow cheating, (in more than one way), by not only having such a good cake, but eating it too.

