2c-b body load in comparison to RC tryptamines?

[Chocolate-Salad]

I've put 2c-b at the top of my must try list. There's something I'm concerned about though.
4-HO-MiPT is one of my favorite tryptamines but due to the body load (stiff muscles which are significantly sore after the experience, jaw clenching, etc) I'm becoming less and less fond. I'm hoping that when I do have a chance to experience b I won't have as many issues allowing me to enjoy the experience to a fuller extent.
I've never tried any of the 2c-x series. The only phens I have tried are DOC (which was very gentle IME) and 25i (if it counts. I considered it very lacking in all aspects including body load)
To those experienced psychonauts out there, I'm not asking how the experiences compare but rather just the negatives.

 

[2cAlex]

I've never done 4-HO-MiPT, but the body load from 2c-b is pretty low. There is no real way for me to know exactly how you're going to react to it.. I don't really experience any form of body load on it.

 

[Chocolate-Salad]

That's really my reason for choosing it but I've seen a few scattered threads about the internets saying various things. I just want to be able to wander maybe through tallgrass prairie trails or something of that sort with someone else and not be bothered by nausea or physical fatigue.

 

[2cAlex]

I've gone places on it, I've never had nausea on it but I've never had real bad nausea off a drug, so it may just be me.

 

[Chocolate-Salad]

I don't necessarily feel nausea on tryptamines, just stomach discomfort. Like feeling overly full. Never thrown up on anything yet actually.

 

[Toucan]

never had any body-load from 2c-b, and I get a bit of muscle tension and GI upset from 4-ho met and mushrooms

 

[[éS]Infinite]

I found it to have a greater body load than any 4-substituted tryptamines I have tried, however it also had a greater body load than any of the 2Cs I've tried. The body load was characterized by a muscle tightness in my back, however this may have been avoidable in a more active environment. I am keen on trying this as I found the open eye visuals to be fascinating, and the closed eye visuals set to music produced visions of heavenly realms.

 

[xx001]

2c-b definitely has a strong physical component, but it is not the same as the "body load" you would get from some other phenethylamines. It has more of an entactogenic effect - similar to mdma, but slightly different, euphoric rather than uncomfortable. 2c-b and the other halogenated 2c's(2c-c and 2c-i) are known for being physically gentle. This is in contrast to the alkylated 2c's like 2c-e which are notorious for producing cramps, stiffness, restlessness, nausea, etc. I experience none of these effects with 2c-b.

 

[DickTate]

Interesting, I always experienced a pretty harsh bodyload on 20-25mg of 2c-b when I took it orally.
Nausea, stiffness and feeling general uncomfortable. These side effects were significantly reduced by plugging.

But I have never tried any 4-substituted tryptamines instead of Psilocybin. Compared to that 2c-b was a little more rough to come up on.
Just saying that it differs a lot between people. A friend I tripped with also took 20mg and only had threshold effects while the others were between ++ and +++ with this dose.

But it is well worth it

 

[2cAlex]

Interesting, I always experienced a pretty harsh bodyload on 20-25mg of 2c-b when I took it orally.
Nausea, stiffness and feeling general uncomfortable. These side effects were significantly reduced by plugging.

But I have never tried any 4-substituted tryptamines instead of Psilocybin. Compared to that 2c-b was a little more rough to come up on.
Just saying that it differs a lot between people. A friend I tripped with also took 20mg and only had threshold effects while the others were between ++ and +++ with this dose.

But it is well worth it

That's on 20-25mg. The normal dose for getting up and going some where is 12-15mg (of course you have to adjust accordingly to tolerance or or w.e)

 

[Chocolate-Salad]

Cubes are pretty gentle but there are some rough tryptamines out there. I'm trying to compare it to the worst I've tried ya know.
With me, it's usually a rough come up initially followed by a mostly glowing experience with slight gi discomfort. I'm a hardhead for psychedelics so I'm assuming 12-15 would be on the low end but a good experience to dip my feet. Thanks for the various opinions, it gives me no definite answer but at least it isn't unbearable. I've also wanted to try 2c-e for its depth but the things I've heard about body load keep me away.

 

[Darkstorn]

I've also wanted to try 2c-e for its depth but the things I've heard about body load keep me away.

I think people put way too much emphasis on this whole "body load" thing. Very few psychedelics actually lack that component: Those that do tend to be simply too strong on their other levels so that you won't notice it. It's more fair to simply call them physical effects: And whether you like them or not depends entirely upon you.

MDMA's physical feeling is just as much of a "body load" as that of the 2Cs. Some people do get nauseous from it because the effect is so strong. In my view, the same thing is true of 2C-E. You'll either love it, or hate it. Impossible to tell beforehand.

Since you mentioned that you find DOC gentle(as do i) i can put it into perspective: 2C-E's physical effects are very similar to that of DOC. Just not as stimulating.

/E: It is important to note: Most people i know who have taken DOC absolutely hate it.

 

[kwhat]

2cb body load was moderate in my opinion, nasuea, stiffness, general feeling of being uncomfortable. LSD > RC psychs

 

[redredred]

I've not had much of a body load from 2C-B either (at higher dosese e.g. 30mg it does get uncomfortable though, imo).. Try magnesium to combat the muscle tension?