Crook subjective experience. You got peer reviewed scientific publications to back your claims? Kinetic refers to movement. IDK maybe google pharmacodynamics. Its a good start. Prove me wrong with actual published data then go for gold.
Kinesis: The movement of an organism (our bodies) in response to an external stimulus (drug).
Dynamics: The property of an object (drugs) to move, to change and to interact with it's environment (our bodies).
These words only get us so far. They aren't exactly self explanatory knowing their etymology alone. Both relate to movement, both relate to the interactions between our organism and an extrinsic chemical stimulus. Kinetics describe what the body does to the substance, dynamics describe what the substance does to the body. This is my understanding anyway.
You were clearly referring to pharmacokinetics in an attempt to present yourself as an authority in the field and failed miserably. Best just admit to a minor mishap instead of making yourself look like a fool. Excuse me, but this is the opposite of what you had in mind. Treat people with such arrogance and it's what you are gonna have to endure as well.
I am all for peer reviewed articles, but as I have stated before I am afraid there just might not be sufficient data available. Nonetheless I will look into it and try to dig up a case report. I am sure you are referring to LSD in particular, not to chemicals in general whch duration can be subject to enormous variance, in no way represented by the mean half life you will find in literature. I thought this is common knowledge - Never exclude the chance of being surprised. I clearly stated the more likely explanation is that he ingested another drug, but it is arrogant and fatuous to claim it is impossible for him to have ingested LSD that night.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_of_absence
There is no way you could back up your statement. Even if he was the first such case report, you can only be proven wrong. I hope you can wrap your head around that notion, so we can stop leading such a silly arguement. This is not about your pride or mine or who ends up being right (me obviously). You just cannot make such statements, substance ID'ing is not allowed on the forums which had been clearly stated before. Nothing allows you to make the claims you made. It is highly likely the op exaggerated slightly (I dare say certain) and was referring to lingering effects which happened to be very pronounced due to him having had such a high dosage of whichever psychedelic it was.
On a sidenote, Mescaline HCl takes 9-12 minutes to hit me on an empty stomach and has me trip balls for 18 hours, after which the loooong tail end of the ecxperience will keep me entertained for another day of exceptional humorous and colorful character. But this is anecdotal and mescaline takes 3 hours to peak, so how could I dare make this statement. No whitecoat has recorded it, no colleague of his had the chance to call bullshit, so I probably had some other yet undiscovered psychedelic every time I ingested mescaline salts.
EDIT: What do you really expect here other than subjective experience? A clinical report of a person doing a thumbprint? There are plenty of cases that are much more credible than any psychoneuropharmacology journal could ever be. We are the ones who get smashed, psychiatrists and clinical researchers try to get a glimpse of that.
Experience counts for something. That is precisely why bluelight is so valuable. Most clinicians here in Germany don't even know micron filters exist, they won't be able to tell you how to prepare your surroundings for a DMT trip, they can't tell you what happens when you withdraw alcohol, heroin, cannabis, dissociatives or any other substance class for that matter. They can list symptoms, but a single interview with a long time drug (ab)user will just allow you so much more insight into the matter.
EDIT2: Turns out we didn't have to look that far. Wikipedia is our friend (you will be able to find the sources at the bottom of the wiki page):
LSD's effects normally last from 6–12 hours depending on dosage, tolerance, body weight and age. The Sandoz prospectus for "Delysid" warned: "intermittent disturbances of affect may occasionally persist for several days." Contrary to early reports and common belief, LSD effects do not last longer than the amount of time significant levels of the drug are present in the blood. Aghajanian and Bing (1964) found LSD had an elimination half-life of only 175 minutes. However, using more accurate techniques, Papac and Foltz (1990) reported that 1 µg/kg oral LSD given to a single male volunteer had an apparent plasma half-life of 5.1 hours, with a peak plasma concentration of 5 ng/mL at 3 hours post-dose.
1000ug / 70ug ~= 14
2^4 = 16
Delta t (1000ug->70ug) ~= 3h + 5h*4
There you go, rough estimate of when there will still be 70ug acid left in blood plasma after a dose of 1mg. Remember, 5h is a mean value. The half life might've been much higher in his case, due to individual and circumstantial factors.
This does not take into account several things though, e.g.:
- His neurons adapt to the exogenic stimulus throughout the duration of the experience.
- Blood plasma levels are by no means an accurate reflection of the subjective effects, which the peak at the 3h mark should be sufficient proof of.
Sorry man, I'm being a total twat, but I felt the situation called for it.
