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25i Questions, help needed.

Zappo

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Hi I'm 19 and I've taken around 8 tabs of 25i in total on different occasions, One thing I dislike about the drug is the brain fried feeling after it but apart from that I enjoy it, I wondered if any of you guys have taken LSD and 25i what the differences in the trip are?
Also is there any info on the negative effects of 25i, if so help me out.
 
It would help to know if you are talking about 25I-NBOMe or 25I-NBOH first off if it is the former, 25I-NBOMe has had negative effects up to and including fatalities in overdose.

Erowid has compiled a nice list of effects and dosages - https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2ci_nbome/2ci_nbome_effects.shtml

I've not personally taken 25I-NBOMe so I can't comment.

By the way, Erowid doesn't state it on that page but does in the main vault - don't snort 25I if you didn't already know.
 
It would help to know if you are talking about 25I-NBOMe or 25I-NBOH first off if it is the former, 25I-NBOMe has had negative effects up to and including fatalities in overdose.

Erowid has compiled a nice list of effects and dosages - https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2ci_nbome/2ci_nbome_effects.shtml

I've not personally taken 25I-NBOMe so I can't comment.

By the way, Erowid doesn't state it on that page but does in the main vault - don't snort 25I if you didn't already know.

Sorry man I'm new to this forum thing, its 25I-NBOMe.
 
Its all good. It is always best to be clear as to exactly what compound you are referring to as they keep churning out new ones and you don't want confusion.

The most commonly-reported problem I've seen with 25I is the vasoconstriction which can be quite severe.
 
Yeah will do in future man, The problem I'm having is that last time I took a tab (3 nights ago) I came up within around 35-40 mins which seems very quick but may be because I don't take it too often leaving me with a low tolerance, would you suggest any psychedelics yourself?
I mean I enjoy taking the 25I-NBOMe I just think it can be quite dark at times and leaves you feeling fried.
 
We aren't really supposed to do "what drugs should I take" threads because everyone is different.

Personally, I would avoid these high potency ones like the NBOMes just because it is easy to get a significantly different dose between them.

It comes down to what you personally enjoy when it comes to choosing a psychedelic. It is almost universally agreed that you can't go wrong with mushrooms while I'm one of the people who greatly dislike them.

My favorites lie in the tryptamine family, especially the mushroom analogs. Others like the phenethylamines, the relatives of mescaline and amphetamines.

I went through the major ones in TiHKAL and PiHKAL before choosing ones to do but unfortunately, most of those chemicals have since been banned depending on where you are in the world.
 
Ah yeah I see that's fair enough, yeah its really hard to get hold of much around my area me and a friend that take the 25I have been questioning not doing it anymore as I had one bad time on it and its left me getting occasional slight panic attacks, I don't fully go into a panic attack I just feel anxious and my chest tightens but I can control it, we would love to take some LSD and see the difference between that and 25I-NBOMe.
 
LSD is much more mental and thought-provoking, along with stunning open eye and closed eye visuals. You come up with the most interesting and amazing ideas and thoughts. There's no way to properly describe it to someone who has never tried it. 25i-NBOMe does not come anywhere close to the wonderful experience that is LSD.

To me, 25i-NBOMe is not mentally stimulating at all. It gives me an empty headed feeling. I see lots of geometric patterns and enhanced colors, but my mind remains "sober". The come-up is too quick and extremely unsettling, I've thrown up or come very close to it a few times. The vasoconstriction and body load make it almost impossible to enjoy. I had a few good experiences on it, but it quickly turned nightmarish. I will never, ever touch 25i again. It can truly make you lose your marbles.

I strongly advocate against this chemical. A close friend of mine ingested two blotters of 25i that were improperly laid and met the end of his life.
 
Thanks a lot dude, that's what I needed clearing up... I completely agree with what your saying and really want to try some LSD.
 
I strongly advocate against this chemical. A close friend of mine ingested two blotters of 25i that were improperly laid and met the end of his life.

Wow, I am so sorry to hear about your friend. That has always been my worst fear with the NBOMe's :(

Zappo, you have to be careful with "LSD" too - there's always a chance that you can get NBOMe's, DOX, etc., instead of LSD.

Unfortunately these days the only chemicals that you can really be sure of are the natural ones (mushrooms, peyote/mescaline, marijuana, morning glories/hawaiian baby woodrose seeds, etc).

There are LSD analogs available, LSZ, AL-LAD, etc but once again you're relying on someone else to make sure the chemical is correct.
 
I've got a friend that supplies me that I have a lot of trust in, he said he can get hold of done 'microdots' either of you guys have an opinion on them?
 
I like microdots more than blotter personally just because they are stable longer. "Old" LSD is not a fun time. As long as you get real LSD and you get your set and setting right, you would be in for the time of your life.

That said, out of all of the psychedelics I have done, LSD is among the top for set and setting greatly affecting the experience. I've had a great LSD trip go south as soon as someone scared the crap out of me and I got stuck in a thought loop. It took me awhile to regain my bearings any time the darkness sets in. LSD has a profound effect on the mind's ability to process and react appropriately that I've only found in a few chemicals out of the long list I've had experience with.

Its not a deterrent, just something to be aware of. LSD has the capability to bring down your ego to the point that you just simply cease to exist anymore and it really can't be put into words. In the right environment, it is an incredible experience.
 
Me and my very close friend are looking at taking it together inside a free house with some nice music etc...
I've had a bad time on the 25I so have experienced that, is a bad time on LSD itself more intense and in a way worse?
 
Since I haven't had 25I, I can't speculate but I doubt that 25I would have the synaesthesia that you get with LSD or the depth of where you can go on your trip.

If its anything like 2C-I itself was, it has a convoluted head space of random looping thoughts that have a "cold" feeling to them. LSD, even though its synthetic, feels very organic when you get good clean cid. It really is hard to draw comparisons between LSD and other drugs because of how profound LSD can be at any dose and that push can go either direction and whichever direction it goes extends to what seems like infinity.
 
My bad time on the 25i was actually on night walk with 2 friends, I felt myself going downhill but didn't want to mention it to my friends as they were tripping and I didn't want to bring them down, The tree's by the road closed over the top of me, my mind felt like it was spiralling down a plug hole with negativity, I couldn't process emotion or feeling, I started sweating real bad and feeling disgustingly anxious and scared, don't remember around 35 mins of the walk which I constantly think about because in a way I would love to know what I saw/felt to understand fully what it was like to have a bad time.
 
On LSD I flew through space, joined the "ultimate vibrational frequency" of the universe, saw to the edge of the universe and back, saw flowers growing out of chairs, saw my friend's face melt off her head, had the sensation of physically melting into my bed, looked at a pillow and saw it fractalize infinitely, "saw" music, etc… just to help give you a picture.

For me, 25i warps what is already there, but doesn't show me "more".

I can say that I only had one particularly challenging experience on LSD. I got stuck in a thought loop and the time dilation was so ridiculous that I thought I was stuck in hell forever. Once I got over that bump in the road I had a nice trip though :)
 
LSD is a lot more complex. I have experienced both, and I have never felt anything negative in terms of after effects of 25I NBOMe. Granted some are lucky in this regard and some are not.

LSD is great when you are self exploring, but eventually one does enough internal spelunking, and might enjoy a lighter affair of sorts, but still crave a lil psychadelia to go along with it. To me 25I offers an intrigueing euphoric boost everytime, while not on par with full out rolling on E, it bears some simmilarites mentally and physically for me, especially at lower doses. I was quite shocked at how the world shifts into HD vision so to speak. Visually at 1mg it can be quite a bit of fun, 1 mg to me is on par with 3 hits of LSD from the 1990's east coast varieties. It does lack 'head space' but as I mentioned earlier I no longer have the need to delve deep into my own mind.

For me 1mg is a well timed pseudo candy flip...... without the feeling of serotonin overload the following day.

All that being said based on what I know I would be weary to ever venture into the 2mg range, as .500 mg appears to be a good threshold dose, even somewhat surprising at times, and 1 mg is my initial dose sweet spot with sublingual ...... I am guessing .800 mg would be my sweetspot via nasal ROA. 2mg would be dangerous IMO based on what I know of my own mind and body....

As far as being brain fried? Like I said I wake up the following day feeling pretty damn good with really no ill effects, but I do not indulge in any other drugs currently so I am probably in the minority as far as a user of an RC like 25I. I also make it a point to load up on magnesium and potassium rich foods days before and after my 25I trips.
 
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