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25I-NBOMe

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i couldnt find threads on this new potent lsd like psychedelic. i just saw its unscheduled in usa and i assume some of the more brave people on the forum have tried it so they report and give extended review. wikipedia claims some bullshit i dont think its reliable to take serious
 
oh thats why. i was looking in the advanced drug discussion search box. i never even thought of that part of the forum. i guess you probably discussed it already so feel free to erase. but can i know how can it not be in advanced drug discussion part of the forum for it is a brand new research chem with no official declaration of being an actual psychedelic as of yet ?
 
good. erase this one then but i wish it wasnt move from advanced drug discussion. its a new research chem not labeled as anything yet and it shouldnt be in the labeled drug part of the forums ktnx
 
When you talk about 25i not being 'labelled' or 'officially declared', what do you mean?

Are you saying that its not a valid psychedelic until some government department authenticates it as such?

Take it and then tell me whether you consider it psychedelic or not.
 
its psychedelic when its labeled as one. by whom ? the government ? the people ? the general unity of things ? you figure it out if you can sense and feel. fact is, its not psychedelic yet, it is a research chemical
 
What? I reckon you should probably stay far away from drugs of any kind my friend.

"Its not a psychedelic, its a research chemical"

Let me tell you, there have been four "Big and Dandy" threads on this substance and it is one of the more popular of the NBOMe series, and many of us have "figured it out [by] sense and feel."

Using your logic, 98% of the subject matter in this forum should be in other drug discussion. Furthermore, just because something is labelled a research chemical does not mean it is not a psychedelic, in fact there are numerous research chemicals that span many types of the drug spectrum, opiods, cannabinoids, benzos, entactogens and so on. Your method of 'labelling' is somewhat akin to saying: "thats not a shoe, its an adidas superstar." Can't you see how it is both a shoe and an adidas superstar?

The term research chemical is simply applied as a method of getting around drug scheduling acts, placing the user as a 'researcher.' I am unsure how erowid classifies substances as research or not, but even more well known 2c's like 2c-i and 2c-e are still classified as research substances. Nonetheless, they are all psychedelics and they all belong in this forum.

Yes 25i has not been around very long but it is fairly well known by many at this point in time.
 
There's no such thing as a research chemical. It's a euphism used by vendors to avoid analogue laws and poisoning charges.

Psychedelics are compounds that act as 5HT2a agonists (usually in the visual cortex).

Please feel free though to register it with the Ministry of Valid Psychedelics though if you wish. That way we can all feel justified in talking about it outside of ADD.

I think you'll find that the 'general unity of things' fully recognises 25i-NBOMe as a psychedelic and a powerful one at that. You're just late to the party.
 
it is a brand new research chem with no official declaration of being an actual psychedelic as of yet
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Except it's not new, and it was developed specifically as a more potent analogue of the 2C-x series! (See: Ralf Heim's thesis in 2003 that disclosed these compounds) So, yeah, it's psychedelic.

See for instance, the DEA's report on the class (microgram 2012) that starts off

"A number of highly potent hallucinogenic phenethylamine
derivatives have been encountered by law enforcement within
the past year. These designer drugs are commonly referred to
as “NBOMe” compounds; "

I think that's a pretty good sign it's a psychedelic.

i couldnt find threads on this new potent lsd like psychedelic. [...] wikipedia claims some bullshit i dont think its reliable to take serious
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New frontiers in apathy.
 
I just did a cursory search of ADD, and 25i is discussed in multiple threads, usually in comparison with other compounds, but sometimes as a sole, central topic. You might want to redo your search, looking for discussion of nBOMe compounds in general.

ebola
 
Much as I would love to hear more about the logic of this not being a psychedelic, this thread is very redundant and I have closed it. Asecin, please use the search function before posting.
 
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