25C-Nbome Hallucinations

[cannibalsnail]

2 of my friends who have tried Nbomes have reported seeing "true" hallucinations. Friend A Claimed he say first a man in a bush me and friend B were climbing into (the moon was shining into it) and couldn't understand how we couldn't see him. Later he saw a kid sitting in a cage. Friend B reported seeing running figures alongside the path we were walking which disappeared when he shone a torch onto them but returned when he removed it. This was all during 1 trip.

On another trip recently we were in a tent and friend B (the tent flap was shut) saw the tent flap open and a man with a deformed face staring at him. Later he saw a pregnant woman sitting outside the tent. He said there was more but the question I pose is this:

The N-Benzyl substitution is still fairly untested. Is it possible it has fringe antagonist activity at the H1 receptors? I know my friends exhibited none of the other anticholinergic effects such as delirium, bodyload etc. I'm not aware of any other mechanisms for "true hallucinations" besides maybe D2 (psychosis) or NMDA (disassociatives) but again no usual effects of these mechanisms. 5HT2A doesn't cause "true" hallcuinations under normal circumstances. I've also had auditory hallucinations like voices and sound distortion while on 25c-nbome which are also atpyical of psychedelics.

So any possibility of activity separate from 5HT2A due to the N-Benzyl subsitution?

 

[ebola?]

This can be explained rather easily by 5ht2a agonism rather than any novel pharmacology conferred by the NBoMe substitution. Hell, last time I was out in the dark on 2ci, I saw 2 adjacent cop cars across a field which were actually porch-lights upon closer inspection (somehow, I didn't find this scary ).

ebola

 

[freedstar]

Have they used other psychedelics previously?

 

[skillet]

Yeah I think darkness has a lot to do with it too. Think about it, with no light, visuals will be CEV's weather your eyes are open or not, and that doesn't sound unreasonable for semi-CEV's. Auditory distortions aren't uncommon with traditional psychs either, eg. I've heard music from nothing a few times.

 

[nuke]

I've seen some pretty weird things on high doses of regular old psychedelics (Jesus, melting dead bodies, people who weren't there). I think if you take enough you're liable to hallucinate.

 

[pofacedhoe]

dark plus strong hallucinogen=anything on your mind. all hallucinogens get extreme in dark conditions or in reduced light