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24 year old addict in serach of advice

Hey endlessnameless! Thanks for replying. I'm glad someone can relate to my story and can live to tell their success from the other side. I would greatly appreciate any advice on using the meds that I have to detox in a more comfortable way. It sounds like everyone has said the detox is the easiest part and staying away after detoxing is the hard part. I'm worried if this is the easy part and its so difficult for me to get through then how hard will the other end of it be?

That sounds awful to detox from H from codeine and benzos. But it gives me hope that if you were able to using those from H that I should be able to from a lortab habit. I look forward to reading your taper plan/general method you mentioned. I appreciate the encouragement and am trying to stay positive and not worry too much about it. I'm sure my addiction withdrawal is nothing compared to many. I'm thankful for not being in a much worse situation than I am in. It's good to be reminded that things could be worse and can get worse.

I have been trying considerably to drop my dose and spread out the times in between but I've been feeling terrible so some additional advice is greatly needed and would be appreciated. I've had the idea to take my large dose and cut it down to a normal 10mg along with .25mg of xanax or somthing or even switch to the promethazine/codeine with the xanax. Something in combination to drop the lortab down instead of relying on the lortab alone to take the withdrawal away. The codeine is in the form of a syrup unfortunately so I don't' have the option to just take the codeine.

I will keep checking in and look forward to hearing your insight into getting clean. Thanks again!!!
 
Hiya. I'm sort of in the same boat. Student. Younger than you. Haven't really tried stopping yet. Maybe we can do this together!
 
Hey SBUgirl. That sounds good. I could use a partner to go through this with. I just got some new clonodine patches since my other ones are old. What is your habit like?
 
Hello all. An update. As most people know its hard to reduce your dose and i've had an extremely difficult time doing so. So my plan is today i'm going to my hometown where my parents live and my dads a doctor so he can monitor me. I'm going to take some xanax 6 hours after my last lortab dose of 35mg which I hope is safe. I will use codeine and Prometh at night. In the morning I will wake up and put on my clonodine patch. I will use the codeine and xanax sparingly from there on out for sleep. If this does not work I'm going to do a quick 5 day detox with suboxone as i've never used it in this way.

I've only used it for maintenance. How well does it work for a rapid detox? Does it get you through withdrawals and then once you stop your just battling the mind games or do you have to then go through suboxone withdrawal after you stop it after 5 days. Thats one things i've researched many times but never seem to hear a straight forward answer but I know this is one of the most used tools for opiates in detox along with clonodine and benzos.
 
Also I wanted to add. I've gotten a basketball goal and many other small things I can do to stay active. I am enjoying being outside and that is one thing that has given me some hope as I have been more comfortable throughout the day and happier. I've been laughing which is something I haven't done in a long time. Just need to get over this slight hump.
 
Playing Xbox in your car? Along with the fact that you got a good enough lawyer to get you off of a possession with intent to distribute case. Damn you must be rich. Anyways, that's besides the point. I do hope that you get through this. This was posted a while ago, so I'm not sure how you're doing, but I can tell you that withdrawing from opiates in any form is no joke. I've been through it myself a number of times. Just recently I relapsed and I am going through the battle yet again, so if you want some good advice, here goes--When you get yourself clean, and I'm talking at least a week to ten days, make sure you stay away from the shit. Don't tell yourself that you can go ahead and try it again or do it one more time, that's what's going to be your downfall. As hard as it may be, just stay away from it for good. Best of luck.

After reading the post (which was quite long, and usually scares people away in case you were curious why no one responded) it seems to me like you want to use drugs to get off of drugs, which never works. You can't bounce around from Ritalin/Adderall to Xanax and back and forth, even if it's because you said that you have studying to do. What'll happen is that you'll bargain with yourself all over the place and tell yourself that you'll just do "this much" and once a certain day/time comes, it'll be the end of it and you'll stop using. It doesn't ever work like that, unless you're under medical supervision. It's just going to come time when you have to cut out all of the drugs.
 
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CT, it's the only way it worked for this addict. There was no such thing as tapering for me. Good luck and really good post, I'm looking forward to continued posts on how you're doing and what you're doing to stay clean.
 
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Also I wanted to add. I've gotten a basketball goal and many other small things I can do to stay active. I am enjoying being outside and that is one thing that has given me some hope as I have been more comfortable throughout the day and happier. I've been laughing which is something I haven't done in a long time. Just need to get over this slight hump.
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How are you doing tham?
 
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Hey, thanks for the response and my sympathies are with you. I'm doing okay. I guess the last 2 months was a way to have a horrible last binge. I started subs again this morning 2 hour ago after I ran out of everything. Still not feeling well but it's been 48 hours since hydrocodone. Yeah I was lucky to have a good lawyer and beat the case. Shit was expensive but worth it to my family and me. I followed all the guidelines asked of me. I haven't caught a charge since I turned 18 and now I'm 24 and am thankful for having a clean slate still. I can see the other about saying just one time will be okay. I've already thought about it. I dream of a day when I can take a tab on a weekend and move on through the week. Sad that's how we think. Those damn pills can be so joyful and I'm the same sense it's the worst pain. So when they are called pain pills they are correct they are painful. I wish you luck and I appreciate the comments.
 
Hello! Thank you for your comments. I've found this out that tapering is not easy. I would wake up and say ill take my normal dose and catch a small buzz and then ill work hard the test of the day. Unfortunately the rest if the day I chased the same feeling which was barley anything at the beginning of the day anyways. I'm mad at the lack of information on suboxone when I started years ago 3-4 years ago. When I first won't on I was take 1.5-2 10mg lortabs and only took 3 times a day. I thought that was bad. After being on subs for 3 years my tolerance to lortabs has skyrocketed drastically!!!! Thanks you for you comments and support!
 
Hello neversick, I'm doing so so. Switched to sub today after tapering failed. Everyone around me is on edge and my wife to be is over this. I've never used suboxone short term 7-14 days and am hoping that this is going to work. I've always taken it long term. Do you have any experience with short term use for detox? Does it work for physical withdrawals and after that period the physical is over and mental sets in? I've always been able to easily reduce my dose of suboxone to a point where is took a small small small corner and could barley see it but surprisingly low doses to come off subs still suck bad. They were one of the longest withdrawals I've endured. Thanks for checking on me! I will keep all informed on my next 7 days to recovery! Don't give up on me I'm still plugging along! :)
 
What is your plan once you are not taking any opiates? Drug addicts usually need something to fill the void and quite the disturbing thoughts and emotions.
 
I don't know exactly what I will do. Right now i've been 36 hours without anything and feel terrible. Took some more suboxone .5mg. That makes a total of a few mg over the last few days. Will the withdrawals subside soon?I feel like at 36 hours everything was coming down at one time. I have a clonodine patch on and have been taking the other meds. I'm thinking about starting lopermide in the morning (Immodium) and seeing how that combats some of this. Thought about smoking weed this morning but not sure about that one. Its been years since i've smoked but I've always kept it in my goodie baggie for a bad night. This was a bad night but was worried about the reaction during w/d. I'll keep checking in. Thanks all!
 
HEY tham.. the lopi will work to relieve you withdrawals.. but in the end you will just be prolonging the inevitable. you will either greatly increase your acute withdrawal time or you will find the unpleasant fact that you will now be addicted to the lopi.. you are trying to get off totally or just switch to the subs.. if you are trying to get off completely your best option, hands down is to realize there is NO way to skip the withdrawals, you will have to go through this at some point or stay in the handcuffs of opiat dependence until you eventually go through them... every time you use a any opiat antagonist you are resetting the clock on the acute withdrawal.. you can do this, accept that you are going to feel like junk for a little bit, that you will get better, stay on your clonidine, talk to a dr about a drug for RLS and whenever you decide that the quick fixes for the opiat withdrawals are just chaining you in the very spot you are trying to use them to avoid.. JUMP off will all the help you can find just not any opiat antagonist.. hang in there.. although you are not feeling great you are doing great.. <3<3<3 In less than two weeks from now you can be free of this plague and be feeling pretty good and getting better everyday so just jump and realize that hey im going to feel pretty crappy for a bit but you will get through it and be free<3

Mehms point can not be more important.. cause once the acutes are done the hard, not painful, but hard part starts.. http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/672623-Addiction-Guide dont freak, just please begin to set up a strong suport group and a way of healing your self from the addiction.. http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/677009-Twelve-Step-Addiction-Recovery-Support-Groups http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/677015-Varied-Approaches-to-Addiction-Recovery
 
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Hello,

I'm checking in. I'm still plugging along. Starting lyrica tomorrow and have heard some amazing things about it for opiate withdrawal. Neversickanymore I have recently looked through all the information you linked and appreciate it. I hope that lyrica can lift my mood. I hear it can alleviate opiate withdrawal a decent amount and its made me very curious. I've gotten a script for 50mg tabs and plan to start in the AM. I've continued to lower my dose of other opiates. I will check in and keep everyone following my journey posted. Thanks for the continued support.
 
Thank you NSA for always offering great advice to people wanting to break the chains.

Keep checking back with us tham, we are all rooting for you :)
 
You are doing so well! You are determined! All you need is a possible stint in a detox unit which they will use subutex (buprenorphine) for 3 days and you will have diminished withdrawals that are quite manageable. If you cannot or will not go to detox and you can procure subutex or suboxone off the street, take 4mg the first day (2mg then 2mg after 12hrs), then take 2mg the next day (either 2mg at once or 1mg and 1mg 12hrs later), and then 1mg the last day (all at once). Make sure you have no opiates (hydrocodone or codeine) for at least 12hrs (if you dose too soon you will be 10x a sick instantly!). You can do this!!! You are doing so well already. I wish you love and support. You got this!!!
 
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