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(20mg 3-FPM) - First Time - as a video-game experience enhancer (Battlefield 4)

flying-potato

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weight = 65kg
addiction = none
tolerance = high use of salbutamol for asthma give me physical tolerance to dopaminergic stimulant
dose = 20 mg (scale, but my scale if not very precise with so low dose)

T+000 : Dissolved in coca-cola, dissolve well. Taste is acceptable. Drink all my cola.
T+005 : Start to feel some effect, don't know if it's placebo. Drink a new cola cause feel strange in my throat.
T+010 : Feel a little sensation, wait for my computer to finish update
Need to do something...
T+015 : Pray god to forgive my if I'm sinning (please no joke, is important for me)
T+020 : Start game, hope the new graphic drivers are no shitty because I waited 2 week to do this TR
T+025 : I'm in game, finished my second cola but still have uncomfortable sensation in my throat
Killed a guy with either much chance or improved reflex, failed an obvious grenade attack
T+030 : We are baseraped, Feel i play as usual, this game end soon
Feel very relax when I play, usually I'm a very nervous player
Feel good and feel aware
I feel more patient and strategic than usual while playing
T+035 : Stinger camper always hitting my helicopter, not feel mad as I usually would and will try another strategy
T+040 : Try to play good but we are getting baseaped again
As it's hard to do anything i can't tell you if i play better, wherever i move some guy wait for me...
T+045 : Still baseraped, I move more tactically than usual and feel more aware of my environment
I feel i process tactical information faster in my mind
T+050 : Find a way to temporally break the baseraping with other player
Die cause of a C4 trap
T+055 : I think the key to break baserape is to kill the fucking Saudi camping on the roof of a building
Build a strategy
Stupid noob crash the helicopter I wanted to use to go on the roof
Go on the roof but no Saudi anymore, feel sad because i really wanted to fuck him
T+060 : We break the baserape, I did some good kill
Feel little less uncomfortable in my throat
Feel very relax and enjoy my game
T+065 : Very confused time, I find no enemy, they are all on the roof.
I felt confused walking on the map and finding nobody to fire, not know if it's cause of 3-FPM
T+070 : It's the end of my first complete game
I really enjoyed my game while usually a baserape make me very mad
I did not see any real improvement (in term of number of kill) from 3-FPM
Meanwhile, I feel improvement in my strategical thinking and my English skill while writing this
T+075 : Everything seem ready for a new baserape
Still feel this stuff in my throat, check my heart rate, is slower than usual.
I conclude 3-FPM give me reverse physical effect than ordinary people
I take a little dose of salbutamol to solve my throat problem
T+080 : I have hard time focusing on my game rather on my TR
I enjoy playing but everything seem ready for a new rape
T+085 : It's impossible to take back the enemy strategical point
They keep flooding us from this point, we resist but can't do much
T+090 : I dodged a assault helicopter attack while my troops transport helicopter
Was a very graceful and classy trick
I usually do artistic movement with helicopter, but this one was perfect, feel reflex improvement
T+095 : Don't feel this throat sensation again, my heart rate still low
T+100 : I'm very focused on what I will put in my TR, this don't help my to play
T+105 : Walked trough the map thinking of my TR
T+100 : Very much vehicle player and roof player, stayed in cover defending successfully a point
T+115 : There was only 5 minute since T+100, but i just see there is a 10 minute black-hole somewhere
I guess I was very much focused into playing, so I correct my timing error by naming this one T+115
T+120 : I just finish my second game
Still feel some sensation while playing, but less than the first game
I not played very good as I was very more interested in my TR than the game itself
If there is another game like that i will change my server
Feel very relax
T+125 : I successfully bring my team to a strategic point and they all die
I feel very deceived of my game, they are not interesting at all
I not feel much effect again
I not know if it's because it's the end of the 3-FPM effect or if it's because I'm deceived
I consider changing server but it will not change my mind and I not want to re-dose
T+130 : Just quit the game, feel boring and sad but not mad


Conclusion :

To start, there is some bias in my experience. I was very focused into my TR while playing.
This do not helped me to play good. Also I thought choosing "conquest" game mode was the better for this experience.
This was not the case, as it can led to very boring game. I think the fact I get bored make me miss some effect of 3-FPM.
It's also not very strategically and reflex demanding game session, was more "walk and get hit on the back".

Apart from that, I feel some psychological stimulation effect. First in my English skill.
I'm very impressed by the fact a can write all this text as easily as my my native language.
I have a middle English usually, but now all the word flow very well.
It's like rather than having to think about what to write I just have to write it.

In the game, when I was having fun I was feeling some subjective improvement of 3-FPM.
I was feeling my mind can handle easily more informations. I very easily get all the informations in the mini-map.
Then I feel able to take care of all the possible position my enemy may come from in my field of view.
Then I feel able to process this informations seamlessly to take decision.
I moved more strategically than usual and with more patience.
When I needed reflex i sometime did some movement that impressed me, but sometime this not worked at all.
I guess I often see no reflex improvement because my mind was on my TR too much.
I was feeling more happy and relax to play than usually. When sober I often get mad and punch stuff when I'm losing. Here nothing so happened.

However this subjective improvement did not led to objective increase in my game score.
I can't conclude that 3-FPM does not improve my gaming skill either.
As the game score is very dependent of many other factor I can't control, such as my allies playing style, the enemy playing style, the best players playing style...

I think i will give a second try, with a higher dose and while playing "rush", a usually more demanding game mode.
I not use this one first cause is very likely that a team rape violently another, and feared to get very mad very fast on stimulant.
I think maybe tomorrow, but as I see 3-FPM as residual metabolite I fear not being completely baseline.
As I'm not dependent of anything, I want to be sure the only think affecting my mind is my actual 3-FPM dose.
So I hope my experience to be more valuable to other by being more reproducible, as the only thing effecting my mind is know.

I'm actually going baseline while writing that. I put music. I feel good in my mind and feel no side effect.
I feel hungry, but i always feel hungry, I think nothing can prevent me from wanting to eat.
In my previous experience with stimulant (mainly 4-MMC) I always took care to eat, sleep, drink...

It's my first TR, I hope all this will be useful. I plan to make more TR with video-game and stimulant as I see It's rare to find.
 
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Thanks for your report, @flying-potato, and welcome to BlueLight! I've edited the title of your report so it matches with the TR subforum title policy.
 
Thanks you. I will do a second soon, should I start a new thread ? Also, is my English level acceptable ?
 
weight = 65kg
addiction = none
tolerance = high use of salbutamol for asthma give me physical tolerance to dopaminergic stimulant
dose = 90 mg (scale, but I feel my scale report more than there really is, likely arround 50mg real)
psychoactive substances already consumed = 20 mg 3-FPM 24 hours ago
ROA = oral (dissolved in coca-cola)
mood condition = good
physical condition = good

t+000 : Drink my 3-FMP cola while holding my breath, feel no bad taste by doing it so
Seem 3-FPM was not fully dissolved, so maybe my real dose is lower
I finish my cola can (without 3-FPM) while waiting for my game to lunch
All my favorite server except "conquest, operation locker, no rule" are empty, so i choose this one
Game launch
t+010 : Start to feel little stimulated
Really enjoy my game
Defend my position strategically as it's the smartest thing i can do
I quit my server cause I'm baseraped, any gamer will understand why it's impossible to do this TR with such kind of game
t+020 : I find a rush server
I feel middle stimulated, I start to think my scale really sucked because feel less effect than yesterday at the same time
I still enjoy my game and feel slight reflex improvement
t+030 : Feel good, enjoy my game, play better than usual thanks to reflex improvement
Feel some little improvement in my strategical thinking
Feel no side effect
Thanks god for everything he give to me
t+040 : Just win my game
Feel the reflex improvement help a lot
Also i feel my finger are connected to the game controller as if it was a part of me, i have a perfect control of it
I see improvement in my strategical thinking, but not enough to really change my playing style
t+050 : I play better than usual
I'm sure 3-FPM improved my skill, I can't really quantify it yet
t+060 : End of the game, I killed more people than usual
I feel this improvement come mainly from reflex improvement
I still really enjoy my game and feel in a very good mood
No side effect
t+070 : Start to feel uncomfortable sensation in my throat
Think of god, he is so great. By is grace I can now do this TR
I watch everything around me, and think everything belong to him
t+080 : End of my second game
Still feel reflex improvement, played slightly better than usual
Strategical improvement are vanishing
I think I'm coming back to baseline
Enjoy my game and feel no side effect
t+090 : Feel reflex improvement are going away too
Still feel happy and feel no side effect
t+100 : End of my game
Better score than usual
More kill thanks to reflex improvement
No more strategical improvement
I feel I'm near of the end of the 3-FPM effect
Will try another game to see if it's wroth continuing
t+110 : Play way more bad than before
No more reflex improvement
Have hard time to focus on the game
Quit my game and drink a coca-cola

Conclusion :

First, about the TR itself. I choose to add more data as it may be helpful. In my last TR i did not say that i was feeling a little tired before taking it. As today i was in a very good mood and health i think it improved very much my experience. I chose to switch from 5mn to 10mn in my report timing because it's more easy for me to focus on the game and did not decrease the report quality.

Also i discover my scale have a precision problem. So I did not really know the dose i took but according to other report about 3-FPM this was not 90mg. It's a big problem for me because i can not titrate it precisely enough to do useful dose/effect TR. Anyway I'm sure this was more than my first time.

3-FPM make me again in a good mood to play my game with no noticeable side effect. I not feel the same psychological stimulation than the first time, this one was more clear and less dirty, but also less powerful. I have 3 theory:

- I was not tired at all when i take it unlike yesterday so the effect was better
- As i already takes yesterday and 3-FPM have long lasting metabolite, i have a short term tolerance
- As i already take 3-FPM i has less apprehension and stress about possible undesirable side effect

Contrary to yesterday i can confirm objective improvement while playing due to reflex improvement. My score was higher than usual because i win way more dual (when you come face to face to an enemy and the winner is the one that fire the first and the most precisely).

I did not feel so much strategical improvement than yesterday. I feel less but this strategical improvement seemed to help me do smarter move than i did yesterday. I see two non-exclusive explanation of this :

- Today the team were more balanced, i win as much time as i loose, so this strategical improvement is a placebo effect (when i decide strategy i must to make probabilistic assumption about my allies and enemy next move, this assumption are more reliable when you play in a balanced team)
- Yesterday i was tired so i was feeling more the effect of 3-FPM trying to keep my mind running. This give me sensation of improvement but no real improvement at all.

There is another psychological effect that might count as an improvement, the good and relax feeling effect while playing. This effect help my to play smartly rather than mad and "run, fire, die". I'm sure of the presence of the relaxing effect and it's good output while playing but I don't know if i can really call it a "strategical improvement". This open three questions :

- What does this effect become on the player with a relax mind profile while playing without psychoactive substance ?
- What if 3-FPM increase playing aggressiveness in some people ? Does this would cancel any positive effect ?
- Does a psychoactive substance with relaxing effect and no effect on reflex (if it ever exist... Not THC, not benzos, not opioid...) would increase my gaming skill ?

I think I still can't really conclude if 3-FPM improve my strategical thinking or not while playing and even less if this subjective improvement give objective improvement in my score. There is an evident difficulty at quantifying this strategical improvement as every game i play is unique. I think I would need to play many game to be able discern strategical improvement from 3-FPM from random gaming event.

Yesterday i forget to look for physical improvement coming from 3-FPM, mainly because the fact that playing video-game is not a physically demanding activity make me think it was worthless. I think i was wrong. From my today experience i feel my fingers was way more precise with my game controller. This need further investigation too, as i can't confirm if it's just a feeling or if it help me to play better. this led me to ask me two questions :

- Does reflex improvement only come from an increase in the brain processing power or also from the body responsiveness/increased control ?
- Does this sensation is just an illusion coming from nerve stimulation ?

To resume everything i just say :

- I can confirm a reflex improvement helping me to play better, with an objective increase in my score
- I can't conclude if there is a strategical improvement helping me to play better
- There is a relax feeling while playing, I don't know what to think about it
- There is some sensation of better control of the game controller, I don't know what to think about it
- I think 2 hours is the limit of orally ingested dose useful effects for gaming
- No side effects

Personally :

- It was a way better experience than my first time, but I'm not sure why
- My scale have problem, so i can't have a precise idea of the quantity used
- I will do a pose few day and continue then, I don't want to build me a tolerance
- I try to improve my TR writing skill and i think this one is more precise and useful than the first
 
Do you know there are commercial supplements specifically for gaming?

Please delete this if it contravenes sourcing rules, but this is not a research chemical, illegal drug or the like

http://uedata.amazon.com/Chaos-and-Pain-AGGRO-Strawberry/dp/B00PXDEUTQ

Yes but I want to study the effect of pure chemical compound. It's more interesting an there is no reason an RC would not be better with less side effect. I see there is caffeine in the product you link. Personally caffeine make me shiver, witch is bad for gaming. Also from my subjective experience an useful dose of caffeine would have more side effect than 3-FPM for example.

And I'm only a casual gamer, I not report my raw score in my TR because they are not impressive at all. I not do this to seek more performance while playing but because playing + RC + TR is more fun than just playing.
 
UPDATE : Spend all the day with residual physical stimulation effects. It's unpleasant but easy to deal with. I guess tomorrow morning everything will be ok.

UPDATE 2 : Spend an horrible night, wake up many time and have a continuous pain in my tooth since 16 hours now. Finally this was not as much a free ride as i think before. Will wait many day before taking 3-FPM again. I not understand why the first time i took i did not feel so. Maybe because the dose was lower, maybe because this side effect come from the accumulation of 3-FPM metabolites.
 
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I absolutely love playing Battlefield 4 so I understand your annoyance at getting base-raped.
 
I absolutely love playing Battlefield 4 so I understand your annoyance at getting base-raped.

Lol, unfortunately there is so much hacker and stupid camper around now. It's hard to find some fair server.

I will give some update about my experience. I'm now researching 3-FPM for video-game since few weeks. I just finished a session few hours ago. I don't have experienced anymore such hardcore side effects that i reported. In a reasonable amount 3-FPM is a safe and clean stimulant.

I'm too lazy now to write a long description, but i think I will conclude 3-FPM can be safely used to enhance your video-game experience. It help think better about your strategy and improve your reflex too. Also there is a very good mood lift that make you very relax while playing. I has great experience doing it.

There is a drawback. The useful time is short, no more than 2 hours. When stimulation go down you are no more focused on your game. When i am coming back to baseline I'm very confused and become very useless in my game. It's like I'm playing like a zombie. My hand play the game but my head is full of many toughs and in no way I'm reflecting at what I do.
 
Good tr. First of it's kind afaik, with the gaming and all. I love first person shooters multilplayer(including BF 4)especially with some chemicals. I really wanted to try 3-fpm, but my shipment got jacked by customs, and I got sick of wasting money with that happening.U.S.sucks for ordering chems! Anyway, good reports, stay safe!:)
 
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