🌟🌟 Social 🌟🌟 2024 MDMA & Empathogenic Drugs Social Thread

[Kaden_Nite]

Yea blunts are big in some parts of the US. I know quite a few people that only smoke blunts. To me it’s a waste plus I’m not one to often share my weed.

Yeah, I find joints a waste but, to each their own.

There are some people I will always share with, and I do enjoy smoking in groups, but I'm also absolutely content to smoke by myself, for my own reasons, even if that means excusing myself from a setting for a minute to smoke.

I like smoking before restaurants to enhance taste, or especially if someone insists on going to the cinema.. the price of going to the movies these days, it had better be a four dimensional experience!

 

[Kaden_Nite]

I just returned from walking to the dollar tree and the post office on mdma. Fun times

You've been at it for a good 12 hours now, are your pills mixed with a bit of speed or do you just get a longer effect than others?

I don't really do MDMA anymore, but I definitely seemed to get a longer lasting high than others for some reason.. maybe because I kept topping up

 

[simstim]

You've been at it for a good 12 hours now, are your pills mixed with a bit of speed or do you just get a longer effect than others?

I don't really do MDMA anymore, but I definitely seemed to get a longer lasting high than others for some reason.. maybe because I kept topping up

It's because of redosing that I go for so long.

If I snort half of one of these pills I'm good rolling for a few hours. Heck even a fourth of a pill.

I just snorted a fourth of a pill and I am actually pretty freaking high.

This is my plan for the night

 

[simstim]

 

[JackARoe]

The MDMA board has been the least visited by me. But some kind soul paid it forward and had it land in my possession. It has been 15 years since I took any. My main years were from 1984-86, the legal times. You could walk into a college bar back then in Texas and buy a 120 mg genuine pill. It was said to come from the universities and was diverted from therapy sessions. Was like that till it became illegal. Then the black market took over. I have taken it 3 times since it became illegal. All genuine but lower dosed.

Looking forward to doing a little more research before I indulge again so many years later. But that is part of the fun! I am a little more aged and need a little more harm reduction. But I assume Sasha and Ann Shulgin indulged late in life too.

 

[simstim]

I be rolling

Here's some new shit from YouTube

 

[xtcgrrrl]

So guys, I have 2 punishers left and 1 Tesla. I wanna go to this concert on Friday next with my bf, but I ALSO want the roll to last the entire night so we can fuck a lot. I’m too paranoid to bring drugs into the venue, so gotta pop them before, then head in. So I’m tryna work out timing - if the show is an hour and a half, and we gotta get back to the hotel after, let’s just assume a total time of no more than 3 hours for the concert. Then that leaves 3 more hours (MDMA generally only lasts 6 hours.) is there some way to extend the peak? Normally what I would do is: pop one before going in, pop second JUST as we’re peaking, then crush/snort 1 half each upon arrival at the hotel. But idk…there’s too many possible variations on this BECAUSE I will also have access to at least 4 hits lsd and/or shrooms as chocolate edibles or in geltab form. I’m actually leaning towards taking the shrooms (or lsd) for the concert and saving the e for arrival at hotel. That seems to work because: 1. Trippy stuff for visuals at concert 2. Can save the e for an environment where we control all the important variables such as temperature control,can lie down, etc 3. Everyone knows that when candyflipping or hippie flipping it’s super important to take the stuff that makes you trip FIRST, otherwise it’ll drown out the MDMA if you take it after, which I learned the hard way over 20 years ago lol. So therefore we could still be a little bit tripping when we start and that would be fine.

Help I need some advice, how would YOU structure it if you had access to all of the above and just wanted a REALLY memorable night

 

[xtcgrrrl]

Oh shit, I forgot to mention that I actually only have the 3 pills mentioned BUT I have the opportunity to get more that very Friday. OR we could just get Molly (powder form.) which would you get? I’m leaning towards the Molly

 

[G_Chem]

So guys, I have 2 punishers left and 1 Tesla. I wanna go to this concert on Friday next with my bf, but I ALSO want the roll to last the entire night so we can fuck a lot. I’m too paranoid to bring drugs into the venue, so gotta pop them before, then head in. So I’m tryna work out timing - if the show is an hour and a half, and we gotta get back to the hotel after, let’s just assume a total time of no more than 3 hours for the concert. Then that leaves 3 more hours (MDMA generally only lasts 6 hours.) is there some way to extend the peak? Normally what I would do is: pop one before going in, pop second JUST as we’re peaking, then crush/snort 1 half each upon arrival at the hotel. But idk…there’s too many possible variations on this BECAUSE I will also have access to at least 4 hits lsd and/or shrooms as chocolate edibles or in geltab form. I’m actually leaning towards taking the shrooms (or lsd) for the concert and saving the e for arrival at hotel. That seems to work because: 1. Trippy stuff for visuals at concert 2. Can save the e for an environment where we control all the important variables such as temperature control,can lie down, etc 3. Everyone knows that when candyflipping or hippie flipping it’s super important to take the stuff that makes you trip FIRST, otherwise it’ll drown out the MDMA if you take it after, which I learned the hard way over 20 years ago lol. So therefore we could still be a little bit tripping when we start and that would be fine.

Help I need some advice, how would YOU structure it if you had access to all of the above and just wanted a REALLY memorable night

The LSD will help extend the experience but just make sure you can handle the level of trip your taking for the setting. I’d suggest a light dosage considering you gotta navigate your way back to the room.

Btw what show is only 1.5hrs?!?

I’m an expert at extending rolls, me, my wife and brother just tried the combo I been tinkering with and we were going hard from 6-7pm to 4am.

Initial dose: 1hit LSD, 20mg 5-MAPB, 100mg phenibut, 1-2mg d-meth.

Wait an hour…

Second dose: .5hit LSD, 120mg MDMA.

Wait an hour…

Third dose: 40-60mg MDMA.

You’ll feel like your rolling solid for 8hrs at least, usually longer. The 5-MAPB, LSD and micro dose of d-meth help extend the MDMA. Just have to be extremely careful and cautious with 5-MAPB and meth for a variety of obvious and not-so-obvious reasons.

-GC

 

[xtcgrrrl]

Btw what show is only 1.5hrs?!?

It’s not, I’m just gonna lose patience and wanna get to the fucking.

Initial dose: 1hit LSD, 20mg 5-MAPB, 100mg phenibut, 1-2mg d-meth.

What if you don’t have access to meth? I mean, it’s super common around here and I could probably get my hands on some but it’s never been anywhere near my favorite thing. And I definitely don’t have access to 5-MAPB. Research chemicals aren’t so easy to come by now that I’m not doing the darkweb anymore; I gotta get them when they come around. Would 3-mmc be a good equivalent? That I can get now. Possibly 2c-b. Also I hate phenibut (but obviously that’s the easiest to obtain.)

Just have to be extremely careful and cautious with 5-MAPB and meth for a variety of obvious and not-so-obvious reasons.

No shit, Sherlock. This combo sounds like it’s gonna make me even more worried about my heartrate than I usually get. Pass. Got a way to enhance/prolong that doesn’t involve more stimulants?

 

[Kaden_Nite]

So guys, I have 2 punishers left and 1 Tesla. I wanna go to this concert on Friday next with my bf, but I ALSO want the roll to last the entire night so we can fuck a lot. I’m too paranoid to bring drugs into the venue, so gotta pop them before, then head in. So I’m tryna work out timing - if the show is an hour and a half, and we gotta get back to the hotel after, let’s just assume a total time of no more than 3 hours for the concert. Then that leaves 3 more hours (MDMA generally only lasts 6 hours.) is there some way to extend the peak? Normally what I would do is: pop one before going in, pop second JUST as we’re peaking, then crush/snort 1 half each upon arrival at the hotel. But idk…there’s too many possible variations on this BECAUSE I will also have access to at least 4 hits lsd and/or shrooms as chocolate edibles or in geltab form. I’m actually leaning towards taking the shrooms (or lsd) for the concert and saving the e for arrival at hotel. That seems to work because: 1. Trippy stuff for visuals at concert 2. Can save the e for an environment where we control all the important variables such as temperature control,can lie down, etc 3. Everyone knows that when candyflipping or hippie flipping it’s super important to take the stuff that makes you trip FIRST, otherwise it’ll drown out the MDMA if you take it after, which I learned the hard way over 20 years ago lol. So therefore we could still be a little bit tripping when we start and that would be fine.

Help I need some advice, how would YOU structure it if you had access to all of the above and just wanted a REALLY memorable night

All depends how long MDMA usually lasts for you and how well redosing works for you. It varies quite a bit for different people.

I would take a reasonable, but not huge amount before going in, as I like to be able to navigate my way to the thing I'm there for with some degree of clarity, then have more once the atmosphere inevitably calls for it. I'm not sure how you'll factor this in logistically if you don't want to take drugs into the venue, but love will find a way.


The thing I've noticed about "I want this to be the best night" nights (like new years eve) - that expectation can really overlap into a distracting inhibition that winds up being a real drag if things don't go to plan. When your plans involve MDMA, acid, and precision timing to get to several different locations, the chance of things going the way you Invision them are slim.

You've got all the ingredients for a good time; someone you love being around, entertainment and a place to have fun after (also drugs).

Fuck the expectations off, they're an unnecessary burden, and just go with the flow and have fun where ever, however and when ever you end up where you are.

 

[xtcgrrrl]

Maybe it’s my anxiety or whatever, but I tend to plan shit like this out, sometimes to an excessive degree. Because, while “going with the flow” is all very well and good, the more I plan it out then the less likely I’ll have shit happen that can detract from the experience. So I tend to plan stuff out well in advance, and then my last remaining preparation is the right attitude

AT THAT POINT, when it’s as well-planned and prepared for as I can make it, I’ll bring my “whatever happens happens” mindset and hope for the best!

 

[xtcgrrrl]

Also this is part of the reason I don’t tend to take drugs outside of a place where I can control every aspect of the environment, anymore. I just don’t have as high a tolerance for discomfort, like standing in long lines in the freezing cold while your MDMA starts to work, as happened to me A LOT when I was a young raver. Putting up with shit like that is for kids lol

 

[Kaden_Nite]

Maybe it’s my anxiety or whatever, but I tend to plan shit like this out, sometimes to an excessive degree. Because, while “going with the flow” is all very well and good, the more I plan it out then the less likely I’ll have shit happen that can detract from the experience. So I tend to plan stuff out well in advance, and then my last remaining preparation is the right attitude

AT THAT POINT, when it’s as well-planned and prepared for as I can make it, I’ll bring my “whatever happens happens” mindset and hope for the best!

Yeah, I get it, I used to really plan festivals out to try and see all these bands, but then I'd wind up in deep conversations or wandering around tripping and I figure, I guess that's where I was supposed to be anyway, so I try to keep the itinerary simple.

I'm okay with doing whatever though, as long as I'm with a good group. I guess I've just seen a lot of people get really disappointed, even emotional, when things didn't play out the way they'd hoped. Especially on MDMA, strangely enough.


I've never had sex on both acid and MDMA. Whenever I've had that combination, it's so distracting, I can't imagine I would have been too on my game. I find acid sex is awesome though; it's fantasy and stimulating and really channels the LSD-induced physical tension I get into something productive. Productive and fun.

 

[xtcgrrrl]

I've never had sex on both acid and MDMA. Whenever I've had that combination, it's so distracting, I can't imagine I would have been too on my game. I find acid sex is awesome though; it's fantasy and stimulating and really channels the LSD-induced physical tension I get into something productive. Productive and fun.

Yeah, that’s a good point. Sex on MDMA is mind-blowing, but I’ve always struggled with my focus when I tried it on LSD. Both at once might be a bit much.

There’s always the option to just see the show, and save the substances for afterward. That might actually make the most sense. Of course, I gotta ask my bf what he thinks, as well…

 

[xtcgrrrl]

It's because of redosing that I go for so long.

If I snort half of one of these pills I'm good rolling for a few hours. Heck even a fourth of a pill.

So, is it better to do more all at once In the beginning of the roll, or is it better to do less at a time, but staggered out so that you redose several times?

 

[G_Chem]

It’s not, I’m just gonna lose patience and wanna get to the fucking.

What if you don’t have access to meth? I mean, it’s super common around here and I could probably get my hands on some but it’s never been anywhere near my favorite thing. And I definitely don’t have access to 5-MAPB. Research chemicals aren’t so easy to come by now that I’m not doing the darkweb anymore; I gotta get them when they come around. Would 3-mmc be a good equivalent? That I can get now. Possibly 2c-b. Also I hate phenibut (but obviously that’s the easiest to obtain.)

No shit, Sherlock. This combo sounds like it’s gonna make me even more worried about my heartrate than I usually get. Pass. Got a way to enhance/prolong that doesn’t involve more stimulants?

5-MAPB is far from a stimulant, it’s an empathogen similar to MDMA. And 1-2mg d-meth is a speck of a dust, part of its purpose involves allowing better permeability of the blood brain barrier. That said I understand the accessibility aspect.

No I don’t believe one can safely extend the MDMA itself. Your better off trying to add in other empathogens (like I’ve suggested) or accepting the 4-6 hours for what they are. I more often than not go with the latter.

The only other suggestion is MDA but that’s hit or miss for a lot of people. I enjoy it as an addition to MDMA for extending the roll as well as adding intensity and increased socializing. Not everyone I know feels that way. 100mg MDMA 25-30mg MDA plus a booster later.

-GC

 

[xtcgrrrl]

5-MAPB is far from a stimulant, it’s an empathogen similar to MDMA. And 1-2mg d-meth is a speck of a dust, part of its purpose involves allowing better permeability of the blood brain barrier. That said I understand the accessibility aspect.

I saw another post on here about 5-MAPB, it’s like 6-APB, right? Benzo fury? THAT shit I know about, and it was excessively speedy in my estimation.

I’ve had MDA, MDEA, etc etc I think I’ve tried all of the MDXX type drugs. However this stuff I have has been reagent-tested and proven to be MDMA. So, what you’re saying is that there isn’t a cross-tolerance between these different formulations? You can actually use MDA to prolong the rolling experience initially started by MDMA?

@simstim seems to be having some good results with prolonging his experience…I’m just curious how

 

[simstim]

I saw another post on here about 5-MAPB, it’s like 6-APB, right? Benzo fury? THAT shit I know about, and it was excessively speedy in my estimation.

I’ve had MDA, MDEA, etc etc I think I’ve tried all of the MDXX type drugs. However this stuff I have has been reagent-tested and proven to be MDMA. So, what you’re saying is that there isn’t a cross-tolerance between these different formulations? You can actually use MDA to prolong the rolling experience initially started by MDMA?

@simstim seems to be having some good results with prolonging his experience…I’m just curious how

I have had good luck rolling up to around 72 hours solid by extending doses but I ate 1.8g of MDMA in that 3 days as well.

It's against harm reduction advice.

Lately I've been snorting my MDMA in order to use less. Also, I've been sleeping everyday so really I've been using a lot less MDMA just by snorting. Because if I snort it then 2 pills is at least 4 doses and that lasts me throughout the night then I sleep.

 

[G_Chem]

I saw another post on here about 5-MAPB, it’s like 6-APB, right? Benzo fury? THAT shit I know about, and it was excessively speedy in my estimation.

I’ve had MDA, MDEA, etc etc I think I’ve tried all of the MDXX type drugs. However this stuff I have has been reagent-tested and proven to be MDMA. So, what you’re saying is that there isn’t a cross-tolerance between these different formulations? You can actually use MDA to prolong the rolling experience initially started by MDMA?

@simstim seems to be having some good results with prolonging his experience…I’m just curious how

You eat pill after pill for days on end that’s the simstim method lol

6-APB is incredibly speedy yes, 5-MAPB is a long lasting more relaxed empathogen. It’s considered to have little speediness and often mixed with other stimulants to give it kick. It mostly adds duration and extra oxytocin/serotonin vibe to it.

That is correct, you can mix and match to perfect the character of the roll. There’s been this belief that one needs full doses of each but that’s how folks have been absolutely floored. A lot of the ecstasy pills in my area back in the day were 75mg MDMA 25mg MDA, 1 to 1.5 was all that was needed.

-GC