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2017 Trump Presidency Thread

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As far as inappropriate goes that is a cultural thing

Offensive would be whatever one finds offensive.
 
Then that would be for them to deal with.

If they want to get upset, let them.

@Fresco
 
people get them to decide that for themselves
Exactly, and if you feel the need to be offended at jokes like that, be my guest.
Remember Trump wasnt trying poke fun at Najavo's, he was poking fun at Warren for pretending to be a native-Indian.

So really what you're saying Alasdair, is that you're offended at Warren for lying on her Harvard admission pretending to be an Indian, which essentially is saying I'm offended at someone for telling a lie

you seem to think the media is having a meltdown. who gets to decide that?
Having watched CNN/MSNBC on their coverage over this last 24hrs they are in my opinion WAY overreacting. Thats probably an opinion which you dont share. And thats fine
 
You know what I really hate guys, is you can't tell a joke without so many people getting offended.

No, it's that people get called out for making racist jokes.
When some guy makes a racist joke at that kind of ceremony, it is to cause a stupid controversy about all this "political correctness gone mad" nonsense.

He knows his base will lap it up, because some of them seem to believe that not being able to make racist jokes is the peak of racial discrimination.
Phony victimhood.

You can make a joke without offending people, but what trump said seemed more like petulent bitterness than a "joke".
Trump is probably the most humourless politician i have ever seen. He doesn't smile, he sneers. He doesn't laugh, unless it is at someone else's expense.

Regardless, this whole "incident" was engineered to distract people from how completely fucked his adminstration is.
This is him saying "we're not circling the drain, believe me!".

This is trump's version of damage control - shame he had to use those veterans he was "honouring" to do it.
 
I will go on the record of saying it was not a funny joke and I personally don't see how it could be seen as a good time to make it, especially by the President of the United States of America
 
^ my feelings exactly.

Exactly, and if you feel the need to be offended at jokes like that, be my guest.
Remember Trump wasnt trying poke fun at Najavo's, he was poking fun at Warren for pretending to be a native-Indian.

So really what you're saying Alasdair, is that you're offended at Warren for lying on her Harvard admission pretending to be an Indian, which essentially is saying I'm offended at someone for telling a lie
i don't believe i said any such thing. please don't put words in my mouth.

i'm not outraged by this nor am i having a meltdown. trump was there to honor these code talkers but, because he has absolutely no tact or sense or occasion or humility, he made this about himself.

for me, the saddest thing of all is that i'm not at all surprised.

alasdair
 
i don't believe i said any such thing. please don't put words in my mouth.

i'm not outraged by this nor am i having a meltdown
Nice to hear you have thick(er) skin or maybe a good sense of humor

trump was there to honor these code talkers but, because he has absolutely no tact or sense or occasion or humility, he made this about himself.

for me, the saddest thing of all is that i'm not at all surprised
He did honor them for almost the entire day.
It was only at the last minute or so he threw in that little funny jab at Sen. Warren.

I'm sorry, I thought it was funny :D
He poked a little fun at someone who lied about getting into Harvard. Whoopie doo.

Impeach.....impeach!!! 8)
 
You're drunk again, aren't you? Can't you find some more bear videos to post?

I do like the bear videos.

As someone (I really don't remember) posted, "He's just joking" is getting really old.

How many tasteless "jokes" that target women and minorities does Trump get before he's just an asshole? (It's rhetorical.)

The fact that Native Americans were offended by the ill-timed" Pocahontas" slur (the slur is against Pocohontas, who is a real person) and the President's choice to 'honor' them in front of a portrait of Andrew Jackson.

I believe Trump has no idea why the portrait was offensive to them ("He's too stupid lol") and why not use a platform to poke fun at a political opponent ("He's just joking and American Indians have no sense of humor").

I've Trumpslained and I feel gross.
 
He did honor them for almost the entire day.
It was only at the last minute or so he threw in that little funny jab at Sen. Warren.
opinion is divided that it was 'funny'. the people he was honoring didn't find it funny. in a statement russell begaye (navajo nation president) said that he appreciated "the honor and recognition that has been bestowed upon the navajo code talkers" but added "all tribal nations still battle insensitive references to our people."

perhaps we both need to defer to the reaction of the people trump claimed to be honoring when it comes to this 'joke'?

I'm sorry, I thought it was funny :D
why would you feel the need to apologise?

Impeach.....impeach!!! 8)
don't see anybody saying that. oh wait, is this another funny joke? it's hard to tell :)

alasdair
 
opinion is divided that it was 'funny'. the people he was honoring didn't find it funny. in a statement russell begaye (navajo nation president) said that he appreciated "the honor and recognition that has been bestowed upon the navajo code talkers" but added "all tribal nations still battle insensitive references to our people."
But nowhere in that statement did he specifically say Trump was being offensive (unless I missed something).

why would you feel the need to apologise?
Come on now, you know that was just a figure of speech

don't see anybody saying that. oh wait, is this another funny joke? it's hard to tell :)
Of course "impeach" is a sarcastic joke. You know he wont be over the Pocahantas joke
(no matter how many Libs want him to be) ;)
 
Remember how gracefully trump took alec baldwin's impersonations of him?

That was a bit of harmless, if pointed, comedy - and trump tweeted lots of sore criticisms of it (which made baldwin's act even funnier).

This is simply inappropriate character assassination. It's another example of why the guy is unfit for office.
But it's also boring as hell.
I just wish people would focus on his (alleged) crimes, rather than being distracted by this sort of nonsense.
 
^ i was going to mention how famously great trump is at taking a joke but you beat me to it...

But nowhere in that statement did he specifically say Trump was being offensive (unless I missed something).
"all tribal nations still battle insensitive references to our people" was clearly directed. are you saying your believe that is a complete non-sequitor?

i assume he did not call him out directly because he has some tact. isn't it ironic?

alasdair
 
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Trump is as thin-skinned as insecure narcissists tend to be.

speaking of the baldwin brothers, they do have a knack for making the president look like a damn fool (which isn't hard, to be fair)

Billy Baldwin isn’t angry at Trump for hitting on wife, just his ‘hypocrisy’



Billy Baldwin says he’s not “pissed” at President Trump for hitting on his wife — just for his “hypocrisy” in criticizing Al Franken, the actor tweeted Tuesday.
“I was never pissed at Trump for hitting on my wife. Honestly… my friends thought it was a riot at the time. Everybody flirts… I got no problem with that,” the 54-year-old “Backdraft” actor said in a tweet.
“I resent the hypocrisy of Trump pointing the finger at Al Franken while 16 women have accused HIM of sexual assault,” Baldwin railed, referencing the four women who have alleged that the Minnesota Democrat touched them inappropriately.

Baldwin first accused the president of making a pass at his wife, Wilson Phillips singer Chynna Phillips, in a Nov. 24 tweet to Donald Trump Jr., who shared an article about Franken’s alleged sexual misconduct allegations.
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Billy Baldwin claims Donald Trump hit on his wife
“Your Dad is a 5th degree black belt when it comes to sexual impropriety allegations,” Baldwin tweeted. “In fact … I once had a party at the Plaza Hotel … your father showed up uninvited & hit on my wife … invited her on his helicopter to Atlantic City. She showed his fat ass the door. #TrumpRussia.”
Baldwin later added: “Think that’s good… wait till I tell you about doing scenes in acting class with Marla Maples(terrific person!!) in the late 80s. It was before Ivana or the press even knew. We rehearsed in her apartment & Donny Boy would call every 20 mins to check up on us. #VeryInsecureDude.”
Trump was recorded bragging about sexual assault in the infamous “Access Hollywood” videotape.
He has apologized for his crude comments and dismissed them as “locker room talk” — but reports surfaced over the weekend that he has been questioning the tape’s authenticity.
“Trump challenged the authenticity of the Access Hollywood audio today cuz he’s worried Mueller has something on him so, as a preemptive strike, he wants to cast doubt on the authenticity of any audio/ video they may try to use against him. He wants MAGA to think he’s being set up,” Baldwin said in another tweet Tuesday, referring to Special Counsel Robert Mueller.
 
i assume he did not call him out directly because he has some tact
Aaahhh........so you're assuming now??!!

Come on man, give it up ;)

I know 90 percent of this forum hates Trump, and thats OK, you dont have to love the guy.
I still say give him a couple of more years (as opposed to 12 months) and see how he does, okay??

Jeezus Christ, you guys are a tough crowd!!

Cheers!!
 
Aaahhh........so you're assuming now??!!
yes - was was assuming. the clue is where i wrote: "i assume..."

moving on.

on october 7th 2016, in response to the publication of the access hollywood tapes, trump said, in a statement "Anyone who knows me knows these words don't reflect who I am. I said it, I was wrong and I apologize..."

my emphasis. pretty unequivocal statement. he said it. he apologized. fair enough.

whether you are a left leaner or right leaner, whether you think this was harmless locker room talk or a sexist asshole bragging about sexually assaulting women, there's something we can all - along with trump - agree on, right? he said it. you guys love him for being a straight shooter and he could not have been clearer in those 9 simple words.

now he's claiming that the tape is fake and that it may not be his voice on the tape?

if that is the case, why did he say he said it and apologise for it?

if this is straight-shooting, i'm confused...

alasdair
 
yes - was was assuming. the clue is where i wrote: "i assume..."

moving on.

on october 7th 2016, in response to the publication of the access hollywood tapes, trump said, in a statement "Anyone who knows me knows these words don't reflect who I am. I said it, I was wrong and I apologize..."

my emphasis. pretty unequivocal statement. he said it. he apologized. fair enough.

whether you are a left leaner or right leaner, whether you think this was harmless locker room talk or a sexist asshole bragging about sexually assaulting women, there's something we can all - along with trump - agree on, right? he said it. you guys love him for being a straight shooter and he could not have been clearer in those 9 simple words.

now he's claiming that the tape is fake and that it may not be his voice on the tape?

if that is the case, why did he say he said it and apologise for it?

if this is straight-shooting, i'm confused...

alasdair
Great point.

Can you please produce the audio/video where Trump disputes the Hollywood audio/video tape.

Now I mean the part where he says the audio/video is bullshit
 
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