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2017 Trump Presidency Thread

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here are some examples of trump's racism which will be brushed off by liquidmethod as something other than racism:
Thanks for finally answering my request after 8 times. I am disappointed though because if that's the best that you can come up with, that is far from a definitive implication that Trump is racist.

- his attack on a muslim gold star family (not racist)

- his comments about a mexican judge's inability to be objective (distasteful but not racist)

paul ryan - I can judge for myself whether something is racist or not, I do not need a pathological politician to explain it for me

Donald Trump Clung to ‘Birther’ Lie for Years, and Still Isn’t Apologetic - not racist

Trump on black supporter: 'Look at my African-American over here' - not racist

Donald Trump Was Once Sued By Justice Department For Not Renting To Blacks - this is the only example I've seen so far that could carry some weight. And yet it is still a far cry from irrefutable evidence that Trump the man is a racist.

not to mention the numerous disparaging, monolithic comments he's made about latinos, african americans, native americans and others...
Please, no vague bullshit. Your evidence must be pretty strong for you to so feverishly demonize someone as being a legitimate racist.
If you're going to bring up "numerous disparaging, monolithic comments" then quote them so that we can dissect them.
 
^(Alisdair's link) It's a face Liquid has yet to make, along with a lot of Trump supporters: the sudden realization that your bullshit criticisms work just as well on you.

Liquid, why are you bothering to claim Trump is not a racist, when you've spent a lot of time in recent threads defending racists as "intellectuals with a lot of valid points"? Just go with it dude, you're nearly there. They still aren't keen on Jews though.
 
If you group all those factions together and dismiss all their concerns as "racism" then you're just going to encounter them again and face more trouble. They have some valid concerns relating to mass immigration for eg.

Liquid, why are you bothering to claim Trump is not a racist
Scrotum, why do you bother to obsessively paint Trump as a racist when you cannot even justify your stance? I know it has become part of your libtard lexicon already but it is a pretty serious accusation, that you should be able to back up. Again, if you are so certain then it must be very easy to prove.

The Trump housing discrimination case.

Although the Liberal media would like to accuse Trump of personally discriminating against non-whites, there is quite literally zero evidence that can prove that claim. A very important piece of information regarding Trump's defense is this: He “accused the Justice Department of singling out his corporation because it was a large one and because the Government was trying to force it to rent to welfare recipients"
Trump's resorts/real estate are for the most part for the middle and upper-class Americans. It would be a healthy assumption to make that a conglomerate whose image deals with high-class, would not want to rent to welfare recipients, or to give the image of Trump real estate as low-income housing. You can argue against the principle of such a dynamic, but that's the perception/image you and I, and even the Liberal media, all associate with when thinking of the Trump Conglomerate. To further this...
“massive fleeing from the city of not only our tenants, but communities as a whole.”
The types of people you invite will not and would not assimilate well with the type of community you have as Trump tenants. I could go to the airport district here in California (not giving the name of my city, but the neighborhoods around the airport isn't the best, you don't want to drive there alone at night, put it that way) and take a couple dozen people, plop them into a gated community of higher-class families, and how well do you think that's going to end? I'll let you think about that on your own unless you're a sheltered child.
The company agreed to submit a weekly list of vacancies to the Urban League, which would produce qualified applicants for a portion of all vacancies.
If you aren't familiar with the National Urban League or Chicago Urban League, let me simply point out this is a "civil rights" organization that assists blacks with housing, jobs, etc. Why is this important? Have you ever seen Chicago? Are you familiar with the amount of murder and crime in Chicago? If I were Trump, I would be HIGHLY skeptical of such potential tenants, and I too would deny large portions of people from specific geographic demographics, whether it be New York or anywhere else. (yes, i'm aware this didn't involve Chicago, it's simply a glaring example of why applicants would be rejected)
Now, for those that assume all ethnic demographics are equal with regards to finances; http://clacls.gc.cuny.edu/files/2014/01/Household-Income-Concentration-in-NYC-1990-2010.pdf in New York blacks are not the most wealthy demographic, let alone the most populous ethnic group in NY. One would assume automatically that blacks would have a lower overall presence in certain higher-income housing situations.
Overall, there was no evidence to conclude anything was racially motivated, and they were never found to be guilty of the outlandish claims.
 
My stance on how you're a nazi sympathizer and admirer, an apologist for them?

Here we go:
"They have some valid concerns relating to mass immigration for eg." Yeah, mass immigration into gas chambers. Your alleged ancestors.

It is a con to recruit people like a genteel you; ISIS works the exact same way. Get the angry youth to go stomp on your enemies, slowly come to power. THat is fascism

I also never said Trump was a racist (and have said that a thousand times already); I asked why you continue to bother to defend him against those allegations, when the cat is out of the bag on your stance.

ETA: one judge of credibility of a source is the non-ironic use of "liberal media". Automatic loss, especially when in the first sentence.
 
^^Why aren't you getting cursed at and insulted for not being more polite to the racist?

Oh and there's a whole thing called white online radicalization. It is similar to Islamist radicalization online.

I'm going to do a real post about it, but it's real and effective.
Strange times.
 
"They have some valid concerns relating to mass immigration for eg." Yeah, mass immigration into gas chambers. Your alleged ancestors.

LOL yea ok, you are just a troll. Fuck you both for labeling me a Nazi (or Nazi sympathizer) instead of refuting points like an adult.
 
Your words dude. You could find something negative about white power movements if you want to shake the label, or don't, but it'll always be your own words.
 
^^Coming from a coward hiding behind their alleged religion to deny that they are a racist Neonazi who is either lying about their degree or should be clamoring loudly for a refund, that really hurts. Please stop making me feel uncomfortable.

I'm a lot smarter than you. :D
 
Words like fascist and nazi don't mean shit anymore because it gets thrown around too much.
I could see why someone would call the white supremacists at Charlottesville nazis but to call liquid a nazi just makes you look over emotional and immature.
I've been called it when expressing concerns about illegal immigrants entering the uk. It's got to the point where it doesn't bother me in the slightest because I know the people calling it me are fucking clueless.
 
You're right, and those words didn't mean much to begin with. It's not much of a philosophy.

Liquid and others have expressed sympathy or admiration for the cause of US white nationalism, more than once, so I'm gonna call him and others nazi sympathizers or fascist apologists or some other combo. Liquid, as is his weird way, can't even say anything negative about a white power movement, once he's taken a position. And he's Jewish. Who knows.

If someone expresses allegiance to white nationalism I will call them a racist or a nazi or a fascist interchangeably. They all overlap, and maybe in a different thread we could compare and contrast views on nationalization of production and how that's different from Soviet socialism, but here, who cares.

But yeah, I haven't called anybody at this site a racist yet. It's overused. If someone lobs it at you, argument over, cause all you're left with is "some of my best friends". But if you put on hoods and march and call yourself white power or some variation, you're a racist pretty simple.
 
Words like fascist and nazi don't mean shit anymore because it gets thrown around too much.
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Just because people lob those words at you and your "group" all the time in NotThisCountry doesn't mean they have no meaning anymore here. You don't get to decide what means something and what doesn't, here or anywhere else, except in the narrow confines of your mind.
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I could see why someone would call the white supremacists at Charlottesville nazis but to call liquid a nazi just makes you loo k over emotional and immature.
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Gee, maybe I should "grow the fuck up" like you suggested. Thank you for that mature and thoughtful recommendation, as well as the others. I'll take them under advisement as appropriate.
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I've been called it when expressing concerns about illegal immigrants entering the uk. It's got to the point where it doesn't bother me in the slightest because I know the people calling it me are fucking clueless.
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I knew it. Cha-ching!!! It was so completely obvious you had some personal investment - I was answering each section as I read it and then gold! That is hysterical. Really hysterical. Oh yeah, it just slides right off you. No problem there.

And yes, I do recall you wishing that the UK would adopt Australia's immigration policies when the story about Trump and the boat refugees broke. The refugees face inhumane and dangerous conditions even now. You deserve every name you're called and to one day live under the same a hardships as those refugees.
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I'm laughing so hard! You're defending yourself!
 
I do decide what means something though, what means something to me.

I think your confusing what I said. I never mentioned refugees, I said illegal immigrants. Big difference.
But it doesn't have quite the same ring to it does it, sort of proving my point there.
I say there's a problem with illegal immigrants and you make out I want refugees to suffer.
Clown
 
in australia refugees are labelled "illegal immigrants" and made to suffer.
it's frequently used to blur the two issues together, and scapegoat asylum seekers.

when you praise australia's illegal actions, that is what you implicitly support.

words have meanings that are collectively agreed upon. it's not something individuals can really do with any sort of authority or credibility.
i mean, trump claims to have invented the expression "priming the pump", but it just makes most people roll their eyes at what an obnoxious moron he is.
 
Why is it illegal sj.
So if you were to say something to me I have to be offended because you all agree I should lol fuck that.
Call me racist and it doesn't upset me regardless of who agrees or not, like I said in other post it doesn't bother ME.
 
i'm not calling you a racist, i'm explaining very basic semiotics.

australian asylum policy is in breach of international law. it is not a crime to apply for asylum from within the country you are applying to.
people that promote this as a good policy need to understand that it causes immense suffering and death.

even trump of all people seemed to say it is unreasonably brutal.
it's a national disgrace in this country - australia has a long dark history of racist politics, and this is no exception.

i'm not afraid to call a spade a spade.
 
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