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2017 Trump Presidency Thread

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True, I know.

I lived in Illinois and I am often in New England. The thing I notice when I am not in the US is how Trump is passing an idea of arrogance, like "American First" for instance. I can relate this to patriotism, sports, and competitiveness in general but in another level. The difference now is palpable.
 
in general trump does equate with americans, un-read, uneducated, materialistic, greedy, racist....not sure where you live but the majority of the usa is not like new york or CA.

It's definitely NOT about those states.
Check out a county-level electoral map.
It's a bunch of bright blue stars surrounded by an ocean of red.

If you live in a city, where it's typically more diverse, and you're more likely to have been born elsewhere, you tend more liberal.
If you live in a small town far from a big city, you're more likely to have been born in that town, are less familiar with other cultures, and more conservative.

Big city: embarrassed by the country rubes, make apologies for them on international drug fora.
Rural: have a complex over being dismissed by "coastal elites".

I used to sympathize with the red state folks, after being accused often of being one. I think they deny climate change only because it pisses off Prius drivers, which I support. But then they decided getting back at us terrible blue state elites with our arrogant ways, was more important than their own survival.

So, fuck em. They got exactly what they wanted.
Soon the Oglala reservoir will be drained, the prairie will dry, and the interior will return to a lawless tribal area (just not with Indians), just like Western Pakistan, run by religious figures. We can buy beef from them using Duck Dynasty DVDs.
 
True, I know.

I lived in Illinois and I am often in New England. The thing I notice when I am not in the US is how Trump is passing an idea of arrogance, like "American First" for instance. I can relate this to patriotism, sports, and competitiveness in general but in another level. The difference now is palpable.
It's not arrogance, it's common sense. Currently, the multinational corporations come first.
 
It's childish to pretend you will be first. Multinationals don't go around saying I'm better than you.
 
Donald Trump's unpredictability is destabilizing the world. While US allies are in disarray, China and Russia can advance their interests.

www.ft.com/content/b56c7c9c-3ecf-11e7-82b6-896b95f30f58

'The problem is that Trump is prone to treat foreign countries like rivals businesses - that can be alternatively wooed and destabilised - as the president practises the "art of the deal". But in diplomacy, unpredictability can be dangerous- particularly when dealing with allies that need to be reassured about the consistency of America's approach to the world. These nations have built their own global strategies around a belief in the stability and steadfastness of the US'.

"Gideon Rachman
 
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^ yep. domestic markets too...

Face it, Trump voters. You got played

While he's off bowing to the Saudis, contemplating the Western Wall and visiting other foreign heads of state, President Donald Trump's White House will drop a doozy of a budget proposal that will hit - surprise, surprise - its own voters the hardest.

As The Washington Post reported, when it's unveiled on Tuesday, Trump's first full budget will gut Medicaid by $800 billion over the next 10 years, cutting off coverage for as many as 14 million people by 2026.

All told, the Republican's budget will propose $1.7 trillion worth of entitlement cuts over the next 10 years, "a source with direct knowledge," told Axios's Jonathan Swan.

Also scheduled to fall under the knife is the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP) and SSDI (Social Security Disability Insurance). SSDI, is part of Social Security, The Post reported.

Taken together, these cuts are a one-two punch to the voters who put their stock in Trump: The poor, the aged and working-class Americans -- those who hoped he'd Make America Great Again (at least for them).

With his budget proposal, Trump took a torch to key campaign promises his supporters swallowed whole during packed rallies across the country last year:

"'I am going to save Social Security without any cuts. I know where to get the money from. Nobody else does.' - my @SRQRepublicans speech." Trump tweeted in May 2015.

That Tweet came days after he bragged that he was the "first & only potential GOP candidate to state there will be no cuts to Social Security, Medicare & Medicaid. Huckabee copied me."

By no means is this Trump's first pivot -- it's just his most egregious.

The former real estate mogul began shredding his campaign promises moments after taking the oath of office. And it's only picked up speed.

Trump abandoned his non-interventionist foreign policy when he loosed (without Congressional approval) the first cruise missiles on Syria, and followed it up by escalating the American presence in Afghanistan.

He backed off on the border wall. And he reversed an Obama-era policy of releasing White House visitor logs.

There's also no small irony in the fact that, even as President Trump undertook these actions, candidate Trump had eviscerated the Obama White House on Twitter for doing many of the same things (The Post has a very efficient rundown of his online hypocrisy. It's well worth your time.).

"Let's get out of Afghanistan. Our troops are being killed by the Afghanis we train and we waste billions there. Nonsense! Rebuild the USA," Trump tweeted in 2013.

Or ...

"The President must get Congressional approval before attacking Syria-big mistake if he does not!" Trump also tweeted in 2013.

But you'd have to look awfully hard to find actions quite so offensive or harmful as those Trump proposes to take in his first budget proposal.

After campaigning as the Defender of the Forgotten Man, his budget does the most predictable of all things.

It funnels the savings from his massive entitlement cuts (which also includes a staggering $193 billion in cuts to food stamps in the coming decade) into tax breaks for the very wealthiest Americans by eliminating the estate tax and the alternative minimum tax, among other measures.


Democrats on Capitol Hill reacted about as you would have expected them to react.

"This scheme is a massive tax giveaway to millionaires, billionaires and big corporations at the expense of middle class families in Pennsylvania. This tax plan may help the wealthiest and the biggest corporations avoid paying their fair share, but it won't create jobs, increase middle class incomes or grow our economy," U.S. Sen. Bob Casey, D-Pa., said last month.

Hyperbole? Definitely But it doesn't mean that Casey was wrong.

The consolation here, of course, is that Congress controls the purse-strings.

And that means a final budget, assuming Congress can manage to pass one, may not reflect all of the White House's priorities.

But make no mistake - these are the White House's priorities, laid out in black and white, for the whole nation to see.

The only thing that's surprising is that Trump's voters expected him to behave any differently.

You elected a casino owner.

And the house always, always wins.
(my emphasis)

more lies. more b.s. more hypocrisy.

alasdair
 
really?



for most people "no cuts" and hundreds of millions in cuts are two quite different things.

just more lies and business as usual.

alasdair
 
It's childish to pretend you will be first. Multinationals don't go around saying I'm better than you.

Multinationals are modern day pirates, of course they are going to want the least static and attention as possible.

'The problem is that Trump is prone to treat foreign countries like rivals businesses - that can be alternatively wooed and destabilised

That is precisely what world powers have done since forever.
 
^Good news! Something like 70% of people on welfare vote democrat...yes even those in red states.

Keeping in mind it depends on how you define "welfare". For instance, taxing investment income at half the rate of a working person is welfare, or worse, actual government handouts, but probably wasn't included in that figure.

And the platform of the conservative parties is that 15% tax rate on capital gains, is still too much! They create jobs! for the people who start at over a 30% tax rate, they should pay nothing!

Dammit why did I ever look in here.
 
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Donald Trump offered a belated response today to last night’s deadly bombing in Manchester, England, and his words ended up being predictably controversial. Trump referred to the bombers a “evil losers” which set off a debate about whether he should have been talking in such base fashion. It’s not shocking to hear Trump talk like an angry third grader, even in the most serious of moments. But the real trouble with Trump’s words is something larger.

If I had told you before the bombing that Donald Trump would wake up on Tuesday morning and start talking about “evil losers,” you’d have assumed he was probably attacking people like Chuck Schumer or Rosie O’Donnell, who are neither evil nor losers, because that’s just how Trump sees the world: you’re either personally on his team or you’re a horrible person. He’s tended to use similar phrases such as “haters and losers” over the years to denigrate his professional opponents and personal adversaries, even if they’re respectable people who simply happen to be on the other side.

- Palmer Report
 
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'The problem is that Trump is prone to treat foreign countries like rivals businesses - that can be alternatively wooed and destabilised

That is precisely what world powers have done since forever.

Problem is he is NOT a person who ever made deals with businesses. He's a fucking real estate developer--an objectively BAD one. NO, he has never "run a company" before. Never had more than family and groundskeepers on employ, and a team of lawyers and accountants that do 100% of the work.

This guy basically bought buildings for too much, had a great team to keep him afloat during all the bankruptcies, got a reality TV show where he pretends to be a CEO and clealy believes it, who makes C-list celebrities whore their friends out. One sweet shiny success. Much better ratings than Arnold--which my own state put in charge, let's remember; blue staters, the state where most stars actually live, can be just as stupid star-struck as anyone else.

Trump can't name a foreign country if he doesn't have a hotel there (licensed, btw, not owned).

And goddamit I'm still in here. EJECT EJECT
 
Well, he has to play ball if he wants to get funding for the wall.
but mexico is paying for the wall!

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alasdair
 
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