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Alright we can drop the subject, I don't know why I felt the need to argue it.

Merkel is probably just as much of a media whore as the next politician, certainly less so than our Mr. Trump, but that's a whole 'nother can of worms. It's true that she's scared of the media portraying her in a bad light, but again, so is Mr. Trump (arguably more so, with his childish outbursts and banning of reporters from conferences, etc.) A politician should never try to fight the general consensus unless it is completely immoral to follow it, which I assume you or at least Ryan think is indeed the reason why Merkel should oppose further refugee acceptance.

It's not like the New Years rapes a few years ago didn't bother me, if anything it furthered anti-Islamic sentiments in me as I'm sure it did to y'all; in fact I'm never going to argue that Islam isn't inherently violent; I took a whole class on Islamic civ. in college and after I studied the first 700 years of their culture, I concluded that Islam is a Paradox; at times, benevolent and even accepting of other cultures (such as people of the book) and at others butchering and murdering thousands to achieve the spread of their faith.

I just don't think it's right to assume that a whole slew of people (the entirety of Islamic descendants) are one way or another; I'm sure it's like here in America, where more and more youth are turning from faith when educated about secular ideas. There are people in the Middle East who think we're a Christian country, and we're the furthest thing from it. I'm not Christian but I'm sure I could be killed for it because I'm an American. My point is, over-generalizing is as wrong as not generalizing at all. There are many (if not the majority?) children of Islam who genuinely want to build a good life for themselves and really don't think about their cultural faith for a minute when making decisions, just as I ignore my cultural faith even though my parents spent years educating me in Catholicism.

Would it be too much for me to point out how America has become the 'world police' and maybe some other cultures are darn tired of that and wan't us to leave everyone else alone? At first it was about protecting American interests, but this has gone too far... We've been tied up in proxy wars for the past 60 years with no end in sight; if I weren't American, I'd sure hate us too. In fact, I do hate us. I hate the way America is running towards its own version of extremism, I hate nationalism as a whole, I hate the way American capitalism is built upon the back of the worker yet benefits them little. I hate it all. In fact, the only thing I am proud of is our clearly superior media; American film and music is top of the pack and no one could ever successfully argue against that, but that too is likely due to multiculturalism offering a variety of views. Not to say that modern popular film/music in America is the cream of the crop, but rather that most of the best film/music/art the world has ever known has come out of this country over the last seven decades and no one else can hold a candle up to that collective, beautiful culture.
 
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"The most offensive thing about this cartoon is that it is all true"

Aye? Seems like an intendedly emotive cartoon to me.

And of course theres the predictable racist theme of "darkies coming to rape our white women", which totally isn't a tired and played-out racist meme dating back at least a century or more.
 
I keep reading posts writing in jest or sarcasm beating the drum for racism.

If you ppl were so open and inclusive you would not refer to non-white's as "darkies" even in joke.

Enough of the race baiting (TATHRA, lucidssdreamer), there is nobody hear supporting OPEN racism and it's very offensive to anyone that checks CE&P out and doesn't already know that there are triggered closet racist snowflakes...being hysterical.
 
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Personally i am sick to death of the assertion that Ryan and others keep making that immigrants and muslims are just a bunch of pack raping child molesters. It is clearly false, they ignore the fact there are plenty of christian rapists and kiddie fiddlers...often church representatives.

The rascism and general hate the right leaning members here are allowed to constantly spew is troubling, offensive and it needs to stop.
 
Fiddy kiddlers? Diddling kiddlers? We need to lighten up.

So how 'bout dem Mr. Trumpz? Wat he do today?

I think What23 and me secretly agree on most things but we want to dislike each other so much that we can never speak of our love.
 
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I keep reading posts writing in jest or sarcasm beating the drum for racism.

If you ppl were so open and inclusive you would not refer to non-white's as "darkies" even in joke.

Enough of the race baiting (TATHRA, consumer, lucissdreamer), there is nobody hear supporting racism and it's very offensive to anyone that checks CE&P out and doesn't already know that there are triggered closet racist snowflakes...being hysterical.

You don't have a fucking clue but that's not news to any reader of this board.

Personally i am sick to death of the assertion that Ryan and others keep making that immigrants and muslims are just a bunch of pack raping child molesters. It is clearly false, they ignore the fact there are plenty of christian rapists and kiddie fiddlers...often church representatives.

The racism and general hate the right leaning members here are allowed to constantly spew is troubling, offensive and it needs to stop.

But that would mean action, or, god forbid, following actual policy from admins. Not going to happen.
 
Would it be too much for me to point out how America has become the 'world police' and maybe some other cultures are darn tired of that and wan't us to leave everyone else alone? At first it was about protecting American interests, but this has gone too far... We've been tied up in proxy wars for the past 60 years with no end in sight

I agree. My disagreement with the way things are going in no way signals agreement for the way they have gone. I find it insane how overstretched and "present" in the world this country has become. I do understand that it stems from fear of what happened in WWII- when we were trying to be isolationist. I mean the U.S. didn't at all start out as the bastard that it's become- our ancestors came here to get away from that mess. Hitler gained power, and then there was the threat of the Soviet Union right after, or perceived threat, so I don't offend anyone here. I think the policy being the sole superpower- I'm regurgitating this more than anything, made people do a lot to stop dictators from gaining power. Hence, all of the regime changes, which are bad in their own rite. It's a new territory. I don't think we can really say that U.S. policy has been effective or ineffective, but certainly it has been different than what the world is used to. I don't think nationalism is really a problem that can be effectively stomped out, but this imperialism should have been... tempered (?) better. I think a lot of our issues could be solved, at this point, with effective communication, and logistics. Nobody wakes up with, or few wake up with hate in their hearts, wanting to go destroy some peoples lives (and often their own in the process). There is a better way - I don't want to condemn the way it's gone completely - But I certainly don't want to stay attached to it. And I'd love it if we could divert some of that policing, to inward growth, like education, infrastructure, healthcare, environment...

And of course theres the predictable racist theme of "darkies coming to rape our white women", which totally isn't a tired and played-out racist meme dating back at least a century or more.

But it isn't totally untrue, at least in the dynamics of how things happen right now. Whenever you hear about gang-rape the guys usually aren't white. It happens, but they are more often brown, and I can immediately think of ways to source details about interracial rapes, where the offender was "dark", and the victim light, where I cannot think of as many ways to source the other way. I would also bet my life-savings that it happens more that black and brown men rape white women, recently, than white men rape black and brown women, and also for incidences of gang-rape. Not to say they are all gang-rapers, but they bring it with them, upping the chances just a little bit that it will happen, making German communities warn females how to behave, what to wear...

go back to sleep go back to sleep go back to sleep
 
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Well hey, at least by fucking up the rest of the world, everyone is too busy dealing with picking up the pieces to launch a cooperative counter-offensive. I bet the CIA was behind Brexit even 8) those English were just getting to be too big a threat again.

#Warof1812reparations
 
Personally i am sick to death of the assertion that Ryan and others keep making that immigrants and muslims are just a bunch of pack raping child molesters. It is clearly false, they ignore the fact there are plenty of christian rapists and kiddie fiddlers...often church representatives.

The rascism and general hate the right leaning members here are allowed to constantly spew is troubling, offensive and it needs to stop.
if you see posts in here which you believe are problematic, please report them.

thanks.

alasdair
 
What tired assertion? I was just saying it has had real effects on societies (that can't be dismissed). Do you want proof? Or is the truth illegal?

Of course, I would also agree that these facts can be used by people... And perhaps harmfully overall.
 
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Enough of the race baiting (TATHRA, consumer, lucissdreamer), there is nobody hear supporting racism and it's very offensive to anyone that checks CE&P out and doesn't already know that there are triggered closet racist snowflakes...being hysterical.

lmao. No surprise that racists are delusional, since racism can only exist by cherry picking and outright ignoring facts and reality, ie by being delusional.
 
lmao. No surprise that racists are delusional, since racism can only exist by cherry picking and outright ignoring facts and reality, ie by being delusional.

You referred to people as darkies, how are you any different than the people you claim to be against?

The fact that you don't get my point proves it further.

Can you please give some links of clear cut support for racism?

Where and what members refer to any creed in a derogatory manner such as you did with calling people darkies?

Me saying I wish there were drones and landmines on the border is not racist, it shows contempt for my fellow man, but not race.

I want our border secure from foreign invaders/problems, I care less they are mexican.

I'm not cherry picking anything you obviously have no problem throwing derogatory names against people that don't look like you....even if you said it in jest, what makes YOU so different than anyone else?
 
I apologize consumer, I was wrong my fault.

In regards to my point there is a very obvious double standard that is just beyond obnoxious but whatever.
 
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