2017 Trump Presidency Thread

[Droppersneck]

I agree with you and Dropper. The French media is far less biased against Trump. It's shocking to read what American media say about him and the spin they put on it. I first noticed it during the Democrat primaries when the NYTimes, washington post, and other media were demonising Sanders and blatantly favoring Bill Clinton's wife. British media has been nasty about how they report Trump news as well. It only got worse when it was her against Trump. I don't know how much money the Clinton foundation paid them to do it (some reporters came out and admited had HRC was doling out interview privileges based on waht they would agree to report), but they are obviously bought and paid for.

Yep her organization was called correct the record. It had paid shills all throughout the msm. Also they had a team of people that downvoted and and attempted to censor popular Internet forums like the_donald on Reddit. Wikileaks released emails where they mocked the team of "virgins" saying they were up day and night but bless their hearts. They have rebranded and are now known as 'shareblue'.

I love trump he was quite possibly the only republican candidate that can handle the biased media. He just pointed out that he had the most electoral colleges, as a republican, since Reagan and they are just super upset over the fact. He called CNN "very fake news" bwhahahahahaha, so true. But he brought up the fact that the media never went after the fact that Hillary sold a large chunk of the uranium reserves to russia, yet are running full steam ahead with the fake news story about him "colluding with the Russians". It is so refreshing to have a candidate with the balls to call it like he sees it and to follow through with their campaign promises! ??????

 

[alasdairm]

I love trump he was quite possibly the only republican candidate that can handle the biased media.

oh. haha.

if your definition of "to handle" is to have a toddler tantrum anytime somebody says something you don't like and to tell the american public that your authority must not be questioned then, yeah i agree, he's handling it he's handling it really well.

He just pointed out that he had the most electoral colleges, as a republican, since Reagan...

nope. that's not what he said. here it is in black and white: "I guess it was the biggest electoral college win since Ronald Reagan."

if he meant "...the biggest electoral college win by a republican candidate since Ronald Reagan" then perhaps he should have said that.

...follow through with their campaign promises!

not really but you've definitely drunk the kool aid so i doubt facts and logic will sway you now...

alasdair

 

[socko]

trump's whining about how he's being mistreated by the media is both funny and sad considering his own casual relationship with the truth and his penchant for attacking people himself.

today in trumpland...

Trump Defends Ex-Adviser Flynn, Saying He Did Nothing Wrong

if he did nothing wrong then why did trump fire him?

and also: Trump Claims 'Incredible' Progress, Lashes Out at Media

that statement is full of inaccuracies including:

• his claim that he won 306 electoral college votes. he won 304.
• his claim that it was the biggest electoral college win since reagan. it was not (obama won by 365 and 334 in 2008 and 2012 respectively).
• his claim that jobs are "pouring out of the country". u.s. unemployment figures contradict this claim. perhaps if his own trump products were not made in countries like china, vietnam and india it would be easier to take his comments here seriously.
  

alasdair

This chart shows the US workforce participation rate. It is compiled by the US bureau of Labor Statistics. It is a more accurate picture of employment than this Unemployment Rate the MSM keeps quoting. The Unemployment Rate is very misleading because it only counts people as unemployed if they hve been out of work for less than 6 months. People who have been out of work for longer are not counted. As you can see, real unemployment is the worst it has been in decades. And the msm ignores this figure for the purpose, I suspect, of misleading the public. It supports Trumps claim that jobs are pouring out of the country.

It links to another site because i cannot copy paste the php chart from the bureau of labor site

 

[Erikmen]

you've definitely drunk the kool aid so i doubt facts and logic will sway you now...

I believe it all comes down to lies and deception. There will always be a crowd to support people like him, no matter what he says.
There will always be ways to prove his point even if we know it's not true, there will always be a background showing the logic.

It's all a great performance that allows him to say whatever he wants and make statements out of proportion. This is all about his ego and himself.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Great so far. Deregulating everything that led to the financial meltdown. Soooo many people are going to get hurt and die but fuck it that's not my problem, I voted for Hillary so my conscience is clear. After the rubble settles and it's proved for the thousandth time that capitalism doesn't work we're finally going to get real socialism in America.

Lmfao, socialism is never coming to America. It has never been successfully implemented. It always fails miserably.

Millennials are catching on in great numbers. All the fucking racist baby boomers just have to die already

Generation Z is the most conservative since world war 2. Umad?

^If they don't embrace socialism then things will get very ugly. To the point where we will become a third world country.

Bringing in so many 3rd world immigrants will turn us into a 3rd world country.

 

[Erikmen]

It seems like a 3th world already. And that's nothing to do with immigrants. I'm not speaking about Detroit area or Chicago. I see Inequality, increasing criminality, a country divided in classes, lots of poor communities, lack of infrastructure, etc, etc. There are few countries not as 'rich' doing a lot better.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Lol, you notice that all of the areas that have the lowest GDP are Trump states? Of the bottom 25 states in terms of per capita GDP, 22 were Trump states. Only 8 out of the top 25 voted for Trump. So, it's pretty clear that the "liberals" are in fact working.

A states GDP has to do mostly with its location.

 

[alasdairm]

It supports Trumps claim that jobs are pouring out of the country.

like i said, it would be easier to take his comments seriously if he wasn't part of the problem. if he was serious, he'd make his own companies' products in america and employ american workers. he's a hypocrite.

alasdair

 

[alasdairm]

Trump asks black reporter to "set up the meeting" with Congressional Black Caucus

jfc! our president is clueless

alasdair

 

[Jabberwocky]

It seems like a 3th world already. Not only in or around Detroit or Chicago. Inequality, increasing criminality.
There are few countries not as 'rich' that is doing a lot better.

Inequality has been growing ever since the policies enacted by the Johnson administration.

 

[Erikmen]

Not only inequality. Countries in Europe like Sweden, Norway etc, have been doing great. They took more refugees than they had to but these people were not doing anything harmful to their new land. These people want a new home. When I visit some countries in Europe I see that they are doing great things for education, social programs, universal health. And doing better combating poor communities. You can still experience quality life among ordinary workers. Not to mention culture, arts, roads, trains. Real developed countries with young and clever politicians.

My point is that US is a great country with a lot of amazing people I use to live there and I know how great you can be, but not so much lately.

Like it was said above, "it would be easier to take his comments seriously if he wasn't part of the problem. if he was serious, he'd make his own companies' products in america and employ american workers. he's a hypocrite."

 

[cashfl0w_d0nkey]

A states GDP has to do mostly with its location.

Sure, you can't take location out of the picture, but that doesn't really matter. First of all, people are able to move to areas with better economies. Cities are as large as they are because they are economic centers that draw people to them for work. Because of this, it is preposterous to suggest that all the liberal people in the major cities do not work. Also, while the people who are highly motivated to work leave rural areas and migrate to cities, all the less motivated people left behind compete for a limited number of jobs and therefore there face higher unemployment. By not moving to areas with better economies, these people are at least somewhat complicit in their own poor employment status.

 

[cashfl0w_d0nkey]

Great read I stumbled across today:

The Alabamafication of America

The 2016 presidential election looked, more than anything else, like an Alabama election. Donald Trump’s relentless appeals to populist conservative ideas echo decades-long trends in the South. The current worries about Trump’s irresponsible governing style are similar to concerns Alabama commentators have been expressing about their often-demagogic leaders since before the 1940s. To understand the Trump administration, in which Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions will likely serve as attorney general, we should look to Alabama, and the reasons why the state government is teetering toward collapse.

Read full article @ http://harvardpolitics.com/culture/the-alabamafication-of-america/

 

[Droppersneck]

like i said, it would be easier to take his comments seriously if he wasn't part of the problem. if he was serious, he'd make his own companies' products in america and employ american workers. he's a hypocrite.

alasdair

You clearly aren't a business major

 

[alasdairm]

you don't have to be a business major to see his hypocrisy.

you're implying that it's ok for him, on one hand, to complain about american jobs bleeding overseas but, on the other hand, to make his own products overseas and employ foreign workers, presumably because he's a business genius?

you can't have your cake and eat it.

alasdair

 

[consumer]

you don't have to be a business major to see his hypocrisy.

you're implying that it's ok for him, on one hand, to complain about american jobs bleeding overseas but, on the other hand, to make his own products overseas and employ foreign workers, presumably because he's a business genius?

you can't have your cake and eat it.

alasdair

Its hilarious that he is part of the problem he campaigned on....and droppers continues to defend him totally ignoring the hypocracy of Trump using Third world labour for his products. Smh

 

[Droppersneck]

His criticisms are about the policies that have put us in this predicament of having to outsource labor, in order to stay competitive iirc. This is why the uncucked is typically anti globalism, anti ILLEGAL immigration, and for policies that encourage business to flourish domestically.

 

[consumer]

Um no...he is just taking advantage of cheap labour instead of employing Americans....

 

[alasdairm]

^ while blaming others for the problem.

alasdair

 

[Droppersneck]

I guess being in business myself, I have a bit better insight into these matters. My small tech company is about to be forced to buy from china with a new competitor coming in and a rewrite of our software being required for expansion. There is literally no way to compete if we stay with our American manufacturer. It is either stay in business by going to china or go out of business. This is the choice many face, especially so in the textiles industry!