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Things have become so tribalistic and polarised that some people will support known sex predators and child abusers if they think they're "on our side".

That's so fucked up. Just another part of trump's grubby legacy.
 
Trump's Panama tower used for money-laundering by condo owners, reports say

The Trump Ocean Club International Hotel and Tower soars over Panama City bay, a 70-storey skyscraper shaped like a sail. Donald Trump’s first international hotel venture, it opened in 2011, a mix of condominiums, hotel rooms and a casino.

As one of the tallest structures in Latin America, it was a bold and lucrative expression of the Trump brand, earning him as much as $13.9m in management fees and royalties in the last three years.

By day it glints in the tropical sunshine, an apparently shining testament to the US president’s business savvy.

But a curious thing happens at night. Many of the lights stay off. The restaurants are near deserted; the corridors silent. The skyscraper appears to be largely empty – a dark tower.

Many of those who bought the condos, it turns out, did so not to live there but allegedly to launder illicit money – Russian gangster money, drug cartel money, people-smuggling money.

A joint Reuters-NBC News investigation published on Friday alongside a report by the non-profit Global Witness said the skyscraper with Trump’s name had ties to international organised crime.

The reports detailed how the future president gave the project to his daughter Ivanka as a “baby” effort to gain real estate experience, and said it ended up drawing a cast of characters accused of fraud, corruption and kidnapping.

Trump may not have intended to facilitate criminal activity but the Panama tower “aligned” his financial interests with crooks, said Global Witness. “Trump seems to have done little to nothing to prevent this. What is clear is that proceeds from Colombian cartels’ narcotics trafficking were laundered through the Trump Ocean Club and that Donald Trump was one of the beneficiaries.”

There is no evidence that the Trump Organization or members of the Trump family broke the law or knew of the criminal backgrounds of some of the tower’s brokers, buyers and investors.

The White House and Ivanka Trump referred requests for comment to the Trump Organization, which issued a statement distancing itself from the tower.

“The Trump Organization was not the owner, developer or seller of the Trump Ocean Club Panama project. Because of its limited role, the company was not responsible for the financing of the project and had no involvement in the sale of units or the retention of any real estate brokers.”

The story may endure. The president won last year’s election on the promise of draining corruption in Washington and building a wall to keep out drugs and undesirable immigrants. Robert Mueller, the special counsel who is investigating Russian influence in the election, is looking at Trump’s business dealings.

Trump lent his name but did not exert management control over the tower’s construction and was under no direct legal obligation to conduct due diligence on other people involved.

But Arthur Middlemiss, a former assistant district attorney in Manhattan and a former head of JP Morgan’s global anti-corruption program, told Reuters that since Panama was “perceived to be highly corrupt”, anyone engaged in business there should conduct due diligence on business collaborators. If they did not, he said, there was a potential risk in US law of being liable for turning a blind eye to wrongdoing.

Trump wanted to use the Panama project as a “baby” for Ivanka, Roger Khafif, a Panamian developer who pitched the deal to Trump in 2005, told Reuters.

She helped kickstart the project a year later by selecting a Brazilian former car salesman, Alexandre Ventura Nogueira, as a lead broker to sell units. He promised quick sales at high prices. Ventura’s firm, Homes Real Estate Investment & Services, delivered, selling 350 to 400 units, about $100m worth of property, he told Reuters and NBC.

He met Ivanka numerous times, met her brothers Eric and Donald Jr, and met the future president once, at a celebratory event in 2008 at Mar-a-Lago, the family’s Florida estate.

A year later, however, Ventura was arrested in Panama for real estate fraud, unrelated to the Trump project, and fled on bail.

Now a fugitive, the 43-year-old spoke from an undisclosed European city wearing a disguise.

Ventura said some of his brokers and clients who traded units in the Trump Ocean Club were connected to the Russian mafia and other organised crime groups.

He said he sold seven to 10 units to David Murcia Guzmán, a disgraced entrepreneur who is currently in US custody awaiting extradition to Colombia after being convicted by a US federal court of laundering money for drug cartels, including through real estate.

Ventura said he sold about half the units to Russian-speaking brokers, including Arkady Vodovozov, who, according to court files cited by Reuters, was convicted of kidnapping in Israel, and Igor Anapolskiy, who, according to Ukrainian court documents cited by Global Witness, was convicted in 2014 of forging travel documents.

Another was Stanislav Kavalenka, who, according to Ontario court documents, was charged in Canada with “compelling” and “procuring” women to engage in prostitution. The case was later withdrawn.

Many buyers remained unidentified because many units were bought and sold through anonymous shell companies. Ventura said he set up hundreds of such corporations, charging roughly $1,000 each.

“I had some customers with questionable backgrounds,” he said. “Nobody ever asked me. Banks never asked. Developer didn’t ask and (the) Trump Organization didn’t ask. Nobody ask: ‘Who are the customers, where did the money come from?’ No, nobody ask.”

Mauricio Ceballos, a former financial crimes prosecutor in Panama who investigated Ventura, told NBC the skyscraper was a “vehicle for money laundering”.

Alan Garten, the Trump Organization’s chief legal officer, played down Ventura’s connections with the Trumps, telling Reuters they did not remember meeting him, and that such contacts would have been “meaningless” and just one of hundreds of public appearances they make each year.


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Most Americans blame Donald Trump for Obamacare problems, poll finds

Lydia Smith
18 November 2017

A majority of Americans blame Donald Trump’s administration for any future problems with Obamacare, a new poll has found. 

Carried out by the Kaiser Family Foundation, it found 61 per cent of respondents believe the US President and his Republican Party are responsible for any issues with the Affordable Care Act (ACA).

Only 37 per cent said Barack Obama's administration - who introduced it in 2010 - would be at fault for fewer enrolments.

The former US leader introduced it to extend health insurance coverage to some of the estimated 15 per cent of the US population who lack it. Those people receive no coverage from their employers and are not covered by US health programmes for the poor and elderly.

Mr Trump pledged to repeal Obamacare on his presidential campaign trail and after taking office in January, his administration has made a series of moves to do so, all of which have been defeated in the House of Representatives. 

The survey of 1,200 adults, taken over a five-day period in November, found half believed actions taken by the Trump administration were to blame if fewer people sign up for individual health insurance plans this year.

A majority of Republican respondents (82 per cent) polled said they trusted Mr Trump to do what is best for the  country with regards to healthcare.

Yet the majority of the public (60 per cent) – including majorities of Democrats (89 per cent) and independents (57 per cent) – do not trust the President to do what’s best when it comes to healthcare.

Although Republican efforts to repeal and replace the ACA have failed, the party’s actions have been blamed for forcing prices for Obamacare plans up in 2018.

The Trump administration slashed the Obamacare budget for advertising by 90 per cent and significantly reduced spending on groups that help customers find the appropriate insurance plan.

The 2018 open enrolment period for the health insurance exchange is also only running for six weeks, which is half as long as last year.

Analysts say these measures increase the likelihood of less people signing up to the ACA.

US health officials say 1.5 million people have already signed up for Obamacare individual health insurance plans so far - with more than 600,000 signing up in the first four days - but experts say early figures are not necessarily representative of final sign-up numbers.

So, the enrollment period for Obamacare has been shortened and the funding to advertise it has been cut.

Please spread the word far and wide! Obamacare open enrollment is now!
 
MGS ACA Experience

I was told (by the social worker who helped me when I signed up last week) that it is not until 2019 that the subsidies stop. I guess they figure it (US healthcare) will "fixed" by then, making payments unneeded. I hated how Obama care made health care unaffordable (used to pay $60/month before 2010, now paying $260/month).

On the other hand, this year I found a policy on the open market that keeps my doctor and is free with the subsidy.... I have a low paying job that I keep for personal reasons so I make so little... It covers me. Strange though, there were multiple plans available (more than last year....though I must have waited too long last year to find something good) and they all differed...some had outrageous deductibles and cost more per month than the subsidy covered...so I guess the lesson is be responsible and take care of business.

Im gonna be a good socialist and use the money I save to help my family and pay em back for the years they helped me with shelter when I was useless and unable.

I still can hardly believe my own lying eyes I will have free healthcare this year, but this paper from Cigna with a $0 bill is real and it blows my mind.

So yes folks, sign up asap!
 
^Yr. boys just voted to end that.

(I don't mean just the subsidies, I also mean the individual mandate.)
 
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They voted to end the tax that penalized folks who did not want or could not afford unaffordable healthcare...I'm cool with eliminating that tax. I'M very content to know the GOP plan will eliminate all federal taxes I pay. Seems only upper middle class in blue states may see changes in their taxes due to loss of deductions. I like people getting to keep more of their money...it allows folks to keep more of their money. It's not rocket science that folks who keep more of their earnings will get to keep more of their earnings.
 
Clearly he has no class, I think gold is gaudy. His Queens accent bothers me too but at least he makes me laugh...funniest President in years. The malaise I would have felt from 4 years of ms Clinton and her voice.....yuck.
 
THe individual mandate is the only thing that allows the entire ACA function. Your "tax penalty" requires healthy 30yo to purchase healthcare, thus making the entire thing affordable (because otherwise only sick old people would buy it). It is the very essence of the ACA.

Yr. Boys eliminated it in their tax bill. Thus, wiping out the entire ACA. If I were you, I'd use your currently affordable last year of health coverage to get any checkups. You'll not be able to afford one again.
 
I don't know what the answer is and I'm open to a socialized health care system if it doesn't resemble Canada or UK. I appear to have been fortunate in my plan....I know of no one else in my world who is benefiting from ACA. Friends in OK and WA ended up marrying to get on insurance through out of state spouses to benefit from employer based insurance.

Eliminate ACA and create expanded medicaid for the poor and preconditioned seems a good start. Forcing people who can pay for expensive, specialized, or alternative therapy to accept a one size fits all policy seems backwards to me.

I still buy into the idea that reducing overall healthcare costs, and allowing people to keep more of their own money (and health care savings accounts) are the best direction to go in...creating a UK or Canadian healthcare system in USA is....best avoided. Tomato, tomato. Everyone has different ideas of what good ideas are.

I also buy into the idea the ACA was never designed to work in the first place. Obama was too smart to sign off on such a poor idea on purpose.
 
You just purchased an extended medicaid policy.

Your friends who got married to get it did so because Republicans in those states chose not to participate in the extended Medicaid coverage--because "Obama".

Not that it matters, because House Republicans just eliminated it entirely.

Congratulations, enjoy the single year of affordable health care you will have, courtesy of Democrats. When you lose it after a year, thank Republicans.
 
I was told (by the social worker who helped me when I signed up last week) that it is not until 2019 that the subsidies stop. I guess they figure it (US healthcare) will "fixed" by then, making payments unneeded.

They did not figure health care would be fixed by then. Midterm elections are in 2018.

(This plus the whole shitshow of "let's try to pass replace & repeal one more time" and Trump refusing to authorize monthly payments for the Affordable Care Act, which raised premiums for people-who-aren't-you-so-who-cares-right, resulted in your "free" health insurance.)

Just wait until you get to hear Trump say in his "voice" how beautiful his tax plan is. Remember that moment because you just lost your "free" insurance.

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Obamacare enrollment is now!


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Scrofula came back!!!! Yay!!
He drew my avatar in the spirit of my Wasabi! sumo. :D
(I know it's so lifelike.)
 
Nope. It's just sad to watch someone delight in a thing they voted against; and support those intent on destroying that very thing.
 
^^ You're back!! :D

OT: I'm honestly not sure who knows what anymore about how they are benefiting.

Jimmy Kimmel's fake PSA for Trumpcare and the responses were discouraging until I remembered that these people voted for Trump. Then I wish I had stayed on my mind-blunting medications.
 
Trump Family Business Is Way Smaller Than The President Has Touted

Donald Trump has an inflated view of his assets. The president’s family business is worth about one-tenth of the value he has claimed, according to an analysis of the latest figures he has filed with the federal government.

Some of the discrepancy is due to a downturn in business, but the rest is credited to an overheated imagination, according to Crain’s New York Business reporter Aaron Elstein, who examined the numbers.

Elstein told NPR he feels a bit like he was played.

In 2016 the Trump Organization reported nearly $9.5 billion in sales. But recent public filings by the president indicate that the company’s actual revenue that year was only as much as $700 million, Crain’s said.

Crain’s determined Trump has been reporting inflated revenue since at least 2010. After examining the latest figures Trump has filed, Crain’s this month bounced the Trump Organization from the No. 3 spot on its list of largest privately held New York City companies down to No. 40.

“It was obviously very important to Donald to have his company on the top of the list ... but the numbers that he presented are just flagrantly untrue,” Elstein told NPR. Crain’s said the $9.5 billion in revenue looks “preposterous in light of federal filings made by the president in the past year.”

Trump’s properties aren’t doing so well, even though it’s “halcyon days” for real estate developers, according to Crain’s. Not only are the Trump Organization’s plans to develop a Soho hotel in Manhattan dead in the water, but “prices are slumping for condos at Trump Tower and the Trump International Hotel and Tower,” Crain’s said.

The average price per square foot for condos at Trump Tower has fallen by 23 percent since 2015, The Wall Street Journal reported, while prices at other midtown developments have remained steady. At Trump’s International Hotel and Tower on Central Park, the average price per square foot is down 24 percent.

And revenue is down on the Trump Golf Links at Ferry Point in the Bronx, falling by more than $1.1 million in the past two years, to $5.7 million, Crain’s reported.

Trump also toppled on another list, down an astonishing 92 places (to No. 248), in Forbes’ rankings of richest men in America. But Trump remains a billionaire on the Forbes list, where he clocks in at $3.1 billion in total assets. He also took a dive on Bloomberg’s Billionaires index, but is credited with still having a total $2.9 billion in assets, as far as Bloomberg knows.

In 2015 Trump boasted: “My massive net worth is in excess of $10 billion.”

Net worth is a subjective “feeling,” Trump said in a 2006 deposition when he sued author Timothy O’Brien, who wrote Trump Nation, a book that was critical of him. “My net worth fluctuates, and it goes up and down with markets and with attitudes and with feelings, even my own feelings,” he said then.

Since Trump hasn’t released his tax returns, as presidents typically do, his income and information about holdings is murky.

Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington is currently suing Trump for failing to put his business interests into a blind trust.

My favourite thing about this article is my suspicion that the person who wrote it has been waiting 18+ months to use the opening line "Donald Trump has an inflated view of his assets."

He could have avoided this criticism and scrutiny if he'd just been transparent and done the right thing from the start and rreleased his tax return.

After the whole shitfest of obama's birth certificate, it does seem a little hypocritical. Especially if - as this article asserts - he's been lying about his financial worth, which i don't think anyone would be surprised about.

Of course, i also expect him to complain that the press are unfairly harassing him over this....

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I didnt actually vote in 2016.

Edit for clarity.... Ive always said if Sanders had the dnc nomination....I would have probably voted for him just for his consistency.....or thought about it till I would have ended up voting Trump. I havent actually voted since 2012.
 
My favourite thing about this article is my suspicion that the person who wrote it has been waiting 18+ months to use the opening line "Donald Trump has an inflated view of his assets."

He could have avoided this criticism and scrutiny if he'd just been transparent and done the right thing from the start and rreleased his tax return.

After the whole shitfest of obama's birth certificate, it does seem a little hypocritical. Especially if - as this article asserts - he's been lying about his financial worth, which i don't think anyone would be surprised about.

Of course, i also expect him to complain that the press are unfairly harassing him over this....

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Trump telling lies? Does he ever actually tell the truth?
 
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