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2017 Trump Presidency Thread

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David Wooderson said:
I find it amazing after 147 pages there is still to this page almost nothing but crying and snarky obvious statements that are nearly a year old, this has become an echoplex forget a echochamber.

Anyone here have any clue on unemployment claims for last month???
Lowest in 40+ years

Isis is running scared and abandoning territory, helps when we don't have an muslim extremist sympathizer as commander in chief.

The stock market has hit 30+ all time highs this year alone.

Do you not remember the god emperor saying countless times that he was going to be the greatest jobs president?

Where are your priorities?

I'd especially like to know from all our foreign critics, where are your priorities, why do you care so deeply about the politics of a foreign country, is it because it is so trendy, is it because it has become a multi billion dollar enterprise, is it because you wouldn't be breathing right now were it not for our countless dollars and lives paid, what exactly makes you give a poop?



Because Trump sent 4,424 Americans to a desert hellhole to die, because Trump sent 2,386 to die for natural gas and heroin industry in the most unihabital part of the world that bankrupted Russia not 20 years prior. What life have you lived where an internet troll/POTUS is "horrible", but a man who's family personally profited off of the mass careless deaths of it's own citiens, aman who started office with a projected surplus and left office worse off in modern histrory, a man who let his friends destroy the real estate market and turned 100's of thousands of families bankrupt or homeless is "suckass" and iyo "stupid"?

Either you are not old enough to of given a crap about politics in the early 2000's or your feels matter more than logic.

Come back to reality and adjust your priorities.


Alasdair is the kind of people we want immigrating, it's the penniless homeless, TB infected, extremist psychopathic, non-integrating sloths that we want to gtfo
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Holy shit, thats serious pwnage!!! =D
 
Regarding bush vs trump. I?ll say what I?ve said before. In terms of valuing a persons worth, culpability and so forth. I go by intent not actions. I?ll forgive a lot worst shit done by some idiot with benign intentions than I will far less bad shit but done by a smarter person with more malicious intentions.

Has bush hurt more people? Yes. I don?t have the same hatered for him as I do trump because my instincts for the man tell me he has better intentions. And they tell me he?s too stupid to bare full responsibility for his actions

I know not everyone feels the way I do. I argued with my boyfriend for years about this. He feels that intentions don?t matter. What matters is what you did. We never did find common ground on it. But it is how I feel.
 
Wouldn't you all agree when it comes to hating presidents, it's pointless, since if you ever did get to know them, they'd all be assholes anyway? It's the values that get them elected that I hate so much.

For W it was the anti-intellectual, pretend to be a cowboy from Texas when you're a new England frat boy who owes everything to Daddums; like WWE fans willfully suspending belief and voting. Then 9/11 turned out the nuke-it-all hawks. I worked for a foreign megacorp then, and the whole world had our backs. W and 2nd term voters took that good will and chance to truly represent and shit all over it, shook it out in the living room and passed out drunk.

But no, I gotta say trump's is worse. This one involved hatred, not just at a terrorist bogeyman but fellow citizens. They say there's always a pendulum with elections, and like Chris rock said, Bush fucked up so bad he made it hard for a white man to run for president. Well, after the black man, I guess we could've expected an albino, maybe god forbid, Santorum. But this is the absolute worst values we have to offer all rolled up with a carpet sampler on top.

W could be embarrassing when he hid incompetence behind his fake accent like he was just too everyday man to get all this gubmit stuff. But when he invaded and occupied two irrelevant nations killing millions, he did at least believe it's cause Jesus wanted it.

Trump is openly in it because he loathes Obama for owning him publicly at the correspondent's dinner and cause it's good for the brand. And cause he's bigly and deserves it, cause trump. He can grab whatever he wants. And he's giving his voters exactly what they asked for.
 
Care to elaborate? I'd never considered state differences in my care from one state to the other as my Colorado years afforded me cheap insurance that never turned me down and now....yeah maybe elaborate more...I mean I get your english and it sounds smart...but what are you trying to say? Maybe compare two states and why you think this means doom in mine? What is it you say Im gonna lose?

Escher's Waterfall said:
How do you like your state insurance regulations no longer covering you?

Because that's what "buying across state lines" means. Insurance could always sell across state lines. The Republicans just want them not to be held accountable to the laws of the state they sell insurance in.
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Morninggloryseed said:
Care to elaborate? I'd never considered state differences in my care from one state to the other as my Colorado years afforded me cheap insurance that never turned me down and now....yeah maybe elaborate more...I mean I get your english and it sounds smart...but what are you trying to say? Maybe compare two states and why you think this means doom in mine? What is it you say Im gonna lose?
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How about a history lesson with a different consumer good: Credit cards.

A long, long time ago, credit cards had interest rates limited by the states. States tend to have usury laws, or at least they did, capping interest rates on loans, and credit card balances were considered loans.

In the late 1970s, this ended up going to court - all the way to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court ruled that credit cards were bound by the rules of the state they were headquartered in, not in the state where the cardholder was. They based this ruling on a federal law.

This is basically what GOPers want to do with health insurance.

So, what happened with credit cards? Well, I'll quote from the Atlantic:

When the international banking giant Citibank moved its credit-card operations to Sioux Falls, S.D. in 1981, it altered the small Midwestern city overnight. With a population of barely 80,000 at the time, Sioux Falls still had an economy built on agriculture and meat-packing. But when state leaders, desperate to attract outside businesses during the economic recession of the early 1980s, changed South Dakota's usury laws to eliminate the cap on interest rates and fees, Citibank came calling.

The company initially promised to bring 500 jobs to the area and to build a large facility in northwest Sioux Falls. Citibank now employs more than 2,900 workers in the city, and it anchors a financial sector that provides more than 16,000 jobs in a metro area with a growing population of nearly 230,000 residents. And according to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., South Dakota holds more bank assets — $2.5 trillion — than any other state in the country.

At the time, South Dakota was the only state with this unusually lax approach to banking laws, and Citibank was soon joined by Wells Fargo, Capital One, First Premier, and other financial institutions that were eager to relocate their credit-card operations to the Mount Rushmore State.
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The TL;DR version is that it's a race to the bottom. As soon as a company is beholden to the laws of the state they are headquartered in, instead of the state they do business in, companies will change their headquarters to the state with the laxest regulations. It happened with credit cards, it'll happen with health insurance if the GOP idea passes.
 
That sounds an awful lot like a tenth amendment issue that trump supporters get bothered about. Surely they'd call it a states rights' issue if companies all relocated to California and made people gay-marry and abort something to get organic healthcare. Why no fuss over this?

Also I believe it was the GOP's god almighty that wrote the usury law. Funny how their true base ignores that part of the bible too.
 
I liked it too, the following seems to fit so well:

The reckless provocations, most often for the pettiest and most personal reasons, reasons having nothing whatsoever to do with the fortunes of the people that we have been elected to serve. None of these appalling features of our current politics should ever be regarded as normal. We must never allow ourselves to lapse into thinking that that is just the way things are now.
 
Dementia is a pretty common theory.
It would explain his bizarrely nonsensical language, and perhaps some of his nepotism (it's quite common for people with senility to become highly reliant on their children/family members in order to function).

If you look at interviews with trump from 20-30 years ago, it seems that he used to be a great deal more articulate - but perhaps that's because he wasn't in politics then.
A lot of his speech now is highly repetitive "word salad". He literally struggles to compose a coherent sentence (classic early sign of dementia) and often appears disoriented and unaware of his surroundings and what he is doing, where he is going etc.

There are lots of theories to explain what is wrong with the guy (personality disorders? Sociopathy? Psychopathy?) but no real evidence.

...unless, of course, trump releases his psychiatric records.
He claims to be diagnosed with OCD - which means he has seen a psych. If he or his party were interested in demonstrating his fitness to be president, they could release his diagnosis/diagnoses publicly - as trump demanded obama did with his birth certificate.

There was never any evidence that obama was born outside the US, but there is a wealth of evidence to suggest that trump is not a well man, and in no way capable of doing the job he was elected to do.
 
nuttynutskin said:
Am I the only one thinking that Trump may be suffering from dementia? I'm not even joking.
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I've thought it for awhile now.

In other news, guess who just landed a $300 million dollar contract to rebuild Puerto Rican infrastructure, even though they are a company with only two full time employees?

Hint: The sound you hear isn't the swamp draining.
 
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