2017 Trump Presidency Thread

[Erikmen]

Exactly! Nicely put.

Peace!
E.

 

[alasdairm]

I have nothing to do with Russia

Our boy can become president of the USA and we can engineer it...I will get all of Putins team to buy in on this, I will manage this process.

to say he's a senior advisor to mr. trump at any point in time would not have been accurate in my mind...

lol. ok.

alasdair

 

[Fresco]

My apologies, I didn't offer directions. At the bottom of the link you will see the notes on how they made it sound as if Michael Moore said what you are linking too. It is actually very educational, and teaches us all why it is that anything can be made to sound true. While I am aware that having absolute faith in anything that I read is more than slightly gullible, I do try to figure out what the truth might be. They all get it wrong, at LEAST sometimes. However some sources try harder to not make things up. To collaborate the facts that they state. To do honest reporting. I admit (again) there are less and less of these sources available.

Peace- grsh

Oh I totally agree with you on that. Everything you see and hear in the news needs to be carefully analyzed for truth. But I think if MM hadnt said it he wouldve tweeted a denial about it since his prediction is all over the news:

https://www.google.com/search?q=tru...d0__VAhUR24MKHe3pDTIQ_AUICigB&biw=992&bih=428

 

[Fresco]

Not the same thing. Fences in specific locations. Sort of edited material and out of context, besides these are specific issues. None of them wanted a wall, nor demanded the Mexican Government should have to pay because they are so "bad". That's hardly an argument IMO. Trump suggests that the drug problem, and immigration is all because there's no wall. That's ridiculous

Oh come one. Whether its a fence, barrier or wall (in specific locations) it all accomplishes the same thing in the end, which is keep illegals out and which both Obama and Hillary agreed with.

Also, I would say Trump's plan is BETTER because Obama and Hillary wouldnt have the balls to make Mexico pay for it, which in turn saves US taxpayers a lot of $$$

 

[Fresco]

Its more aesthetic to have matching borders and since its not a real priority anymore, cant Trump just copy the Canadian border?

Assuming thats real, I never seen that before. Do you know which town thats in??

 

[G.R.S.H.]

Wow- I didn't even know you can get results like that from Google... However can you tell me which of these sites is considered a reputable news source? Also, are they talking about his insistance that Trump will win the ELCTORAL COLLEGE again, but NOT THE POPULAR VOTE? Is this something that Trump supporters really think is a good thing?

Americans DIDN'T vote him in... But he GOT IN anyway!!!! Wow! Points for his huge popularity with the American People---- wait, he didn't get the popular vote? Wait... America as a whole did not vote him in to office? Are you sure about that? He even says he is the most popular president ever!!

Signing off due to inability to hide sarcasm at the moment. I will address this again if it becomes possible...

I repeat- learn the entire truth, touting that someone who is saying that the election was wrong, and will be AGAIN as a positive for Trump... ROTFFLMFAO!!!!

 

[Fresco]

Wow- I didn't even know you can get results like that from Google... However can you tell me which of these sites is considered a reputable news source? Also, are they talking about his insistance that Trump will win the ELCTORAL COLLEGE again, but NOT THE POPULAR VOTE? Is this something that Trump supporters really think is a good thing?

Americans DIDN'T vote him in... But he GOT IN anyway!!!! Wow! Points for his huge popularity with the American People---- wait, he didn't get the popular vote? Wait... America as a whole did not vote him in to office? Are you sure about that? He even says he is the most popular president ever!!

Signing off due to inability to hide sarcasm at the moment. I will address this again if it becomes possible...

I repeat- learn the entire truth, touting that someone who is saying that the election was wrong, and will be AGAIN as a positive for Trump... ROTFFLMFAO!!!!

You have to understand why electoral college is in place. Its so major urban cities cant rule the whole country, and rural areas get a say in politicial matters.

See map (red is Republican, blue is Democrats). If EC wasnt in place the whole map would be blue

 

[Erikmen]

Yes, I am pretty sure this is right!! Come on..

 

[alasdairm]

You have to understand why electoral college is in place. Its so major urban cities cant rule the whole country, and rural areas get a say in politicial matters.

See map (red is Republican, blue is Democrats). If EC wasnt in place the whole map would be blue

donald trump used to think that the electoral college was the work of the devil:

strong words.

then he executed a complete 180 when it worked out for him. i guess he no longer thinks the electoral college is a "disaster for democracy"?



alasdair

 

[Fresco]

donald trump used to think that the electoral college was the work of the devil:

strong words.

then he executed a complete 180 when it worked out for him. i guess he no longer thinks the electoral college is a "disaster for democracy"?



alasdair

If those tweets are real and verified, then yes, I have to agree Trump is a hypocrite as well.
But so are Obama and Hillary, and you have to remember, every politician will do or say whatever is in their best interest to win.

So in that respect, they are all the same

 

[Erikmen]

This is the Trump thread.

 

[alasdairm]

...the balls to make Mexico pay for it, which in turn saves US taxpayers a lot of $$$

can you help me understand how that is going to work. the mexican government has made it crystal clear they're not paying for it. in his phone call with the mexican president, trump asked him to stop saying that as it was making him look bad

If those tweets are real and verified, then yes, I have to agree Trump is a hypocrite as well.

real and verified - he tweeted them from his twitter account e.g. https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/266038556504494082?lang=en

So in that respect, they are all the same

not really. trump has taken the concept of pants-on-fire lying to a level we've never seen from a president.

alasdair

 

[Fresco]

This is the Trump thread

Which I partially referred to in my last post

 

[Fresco]

can you help me understand how that is going to work. the mexican government has made it crystal clear they're not paying for it

Real easy!! Charge all kinds of tarriffs and border crossing fees.
You'll have a few billion within 6 months or so. Mexicans need the US a lot more then the other way around

 

[alasdairm]

a few billion in 6 months? well, i suppose we'll see.

but trump appears to disagree with you - he's floated the idea of a 20% tax on mexican imports. so that plan basically has the american public paying for the wall.

not only that but if we apply a tariff, mexico could retaliate and american producers get dinged in return.

but we're talking about the world's greatest negotiator! so we'll see.

fresco, this wall that mexico is paying for was a central pillar of trump's campaign. what do you think are the chances that it will be delivered by the end of his term?

alasdair

 

[Scrofula]

Real easy!! Charge all kinds of tarriffs and border crossing fees.
You'll have a few billion within 6 months or so. Mexicans need the US a lot more then the other way around

Look, I know you Canadians get by with your beaver-fat lanterns and baby seal blubber for food, and the US for everything else. But we depend on the world south of our border for sundry things, like labor and goods and food and billions a day in trade. I know you have electricity, so you must be near the border to steal wifi from an American, hopefully you overheard some of your neighbors TV-talk that went over this stuff a year and a half ago. So, next time you come down to panhandle for produce, pick up a map and contemplate the size of the border, think about that stuff you heard.

 

[Fresco]

a few billion in 6 months? well, i suppose we'll see.

but trump appears to disagree with you - he's floated the idea of a 20% tax on mexican imports. so that plan basically has the american public paying for the wall.

not only that but if we apply a tariff, mexico could retaliate and american producers get dinged in return.

but we're talking about the world's greatest negotiator! so we'll see.

fresco, this wall that mexico is paying for was a central pillar of trump's campaign. what do you think are the chances that it will be delivered by the end of his term?

alasdair

I would honestly say the chances are about 50/50 since Trump needs to get tarriffs past to pay for the wall, which wont be easy

 

[Fresco]

Look, I know you Canadians get by with your beaver-fat lanterns and baby seal blubber for food, and the US for everything else. But we depend on the world south of our border for sundry things, like labor and goods and food and billions a day in trade. I know you have electricity, so you must be near the border to steal wifi from an American, hopefully you overheard some of your neighbors TV-talk that went over this stuff a year and a half ago. So, next time you come down to panhandle for produce, pick up a map and contemplate the size of the border, think about that stuff you heard

So stupid, not even worth responding to......LOL

 

[zephyr]

Assuming thats real, I never seen that before. Do you know which town thats in??

Lol mate that building in the background is a very famous library built on the border intentionally, maybe as some sort of political point at the time or to have a unique tourist attraction. Theres a straight line through the cafe where the border is. Its actually quiet funny.

 

[zephyr]

You have to understand why electoral college is in place. Its so major urban cities cant rule the whole country, and rural areas get a say in politicial matters.

See map (red is Republican, blue is Democrats). If EC wasnt in place the whole map would be blue

Would you say that it would be a lot easier in the long run if America just had full transparency of showing that every adult American had their say and all votes were counted equally if everyone had to vote?

Also not having any vote preference deals ever between parties as thats shitty.

I know it seems undemocratic to be made to vote but really it isnt that hard to do and democracy is supposed to be about having a say in who you want running the place rather than the right to not be bothered?