double standards abound!
lol. fail.
alasdair
are you related to this guy:
lol. fail.
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Scrofula
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Trump has no obligation to release his taxes.
It's like that guy who holds up the exit line at WalMart cause he refuses to show his receipt. Now, he might just be a local libertarian idiot with nothing better to do than holler about the 4th amendment, or he mighta stole something.
I don't think Trump knows what the 4th amendment is.
It's like that guy who holds up the exit line at WalMart cause he refuses to show his receipt. Now, he might just be a local libertarian idiot with nothing better to do than holler about the 4th amendment, or he mighta stole something.
I don't think Trump knows what the 4th amendment is.
LiquidMethod
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I will say that this is a reasonable concern. Probably the first sensible one I've heard from you so far. Still, I'm not fussed about the tax returns if they are not legally required. You can monitor pay-for-play or suspicious business transactions while he is serving as the President (although we only seem to care about pay-for-play if Trump does it).
You're conflating two stories. And there is still more circumstantial evidence with Pizzagate than there is with Trump colluding with Russia to influence the election. Trump's connections to Russia have been obsessively scrutinized and blasted through the media 24/7 for 9 months straight already and nothing has been found. Imagine if official investigators and the media put the same effort towards investigating congressional pedophilia. I guarantee you that they'd find a lot more than what they've found on Trump's collusion. You're living in a fantasy if you think Trump orchestrated something illegal in order to win the election. Where is even the circumstantial evidence?
Trumps wins election. Trump doesn't war with Russia. Russia is happy Trump won - that is the evidence you've got.
Because it doesn't exist anymore thanks to Obama.
Scrofula
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What did Obama do, dare I ask, no, never mind, this thread is about Trump.
We'll wait patiently and speculate about all the evidence, as witnesses and documents are subpoenaed by Meuller's team including his tax returns, and eventually Trump bolts. You see, Liquid, if Trump or his team hadn't done anything illegal, we wouldn't have an enormous investigation moving forward, right now, IRL, pick a media outlet, fly to DC and watch for yourself, stop asking us for evidence, professionals are doing it as we speak;
NOT "looking" for evidence of an imagined crime--putting evidence they already have into formats they can use in court. In a criminal trial.
No, he won't ever be put behind bars, unfortunately. Hopefully we'll hear charges, but he'll be out of there, pardon in hand, before that, probably.
We'll wait patiently and speculate about all the evidence, as witnesses and documents are subpoenaed by Meuller's team including his tax returns, and eventually Trump bolts. You see, Liquid, if Trump or his team hadn't done anything illegal, we wouldn't have an enormous investigation moving forward, right now, IRL, pick a media outlet, fly to DC and watch for yourself, stop asking us for evidence, professionals are doing it as we speak;
NOT "looking" for evidence of an imagined crime--putting evidence they already have into formats they can use in court. In a criminal trial.
No, he won't ever be put behind bars, unfortunately. Hopefully we'll hear charges, but he'll be out of there, pardon in hand, before that, probably.
LiquidMethod
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That's a load of bullshit. As I've repeated ad nauseum if we cared about illegal activity then Killary would've been charged for her email server. You want Donald Trump removed because he is not part of the political gang. That is all the "enormous investigations" are about. You are calling for a coup. In the United States. Good on you.
LiquidMethod
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drug_mentor
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Ignoring the speculation article (which I didn't bother reading), did you just post those hoping I wouldn't actually read them, or did you not actually read them before posting? Of those articles, only the first and fifth actually directly say that the Clinton Foundation stole billions, and the fifth is just going on some claims the guy from your earlier youtube video made at a Trump rally - when I have pointed out that he is of dubious credibility and ask for more evidence, it is quite strange for you to then link me to an article which is just quoting the very same guy... The first article doesn't provide any hard evidence whatsoever in support of the claim that billions of dollars of Haiti relief money was stolen by the Clinton Foundation.
Amusingly, the last two links say that the Clinton Foundation stole millions - not billions.
You were asked how you get billions out of 314 million, your response was "[w]e count". What are you counting? There are no hard figures in any of the sources you linked which show the Clinton Foundation even received billions, let alone stole them.
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Scrofula
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If a Clinton farts in her office, the whole world knows. If your sott.net or RT or Alex Jones "evidence" had any basis, believe me we'd see an investigation. Twenty years after the fact, there was an investigation into a real estate deal the Clintons made, that went all the way to impeachment cause he fucked his secretary and said he didn't.
That's the kind of scrutiny the Clinton's get. If there was a single atom of smoke somewhere, there'd be an investigation. There isn't one. THere isn't going to be one.
Yr. Boy, on the other hand, isn't used to this kind of scrutiny, the Federal kind. His accountants know that local regulatory agencies can't cross borders easily. And that's as far as they've protected his assets. Ol' Bob crosses borders with ease.
That's the kind of scrutiny the Clinton's get. If there was a single atom of smoke somewhere, there'd be an investigation. There isn't one. THere isn't going to be one.
Yr. Boy, on the other hand, isn't used to this kind of scrutiny, the Federal kind. His accountants know that local regulatory agencies can't cross borders easily. And that's as far as they've protected his assets. Ol' Bob crosses borders with ease.
Erikmen
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Interesting to see how Trump's apologists will just accept anything he says or does. This guy could kill his wife you'd all be saying she must have done something wrong. Come on! You agree and accept and defend just about anything he does, which is strange. Obama followers and activists complained about things he did wrong. However - Trump's followers will just have to agree with whatever it is that he does, no matter what. E.g. Bigot, "no problem"! Lying son of a gun, "not at all". Insane and contradicting tweets 3 am with silly messages (not to mention incorrect), "no absolutely not!" Government Official (President) is hiding his income taxes for Christ's sake and you all say "sure, it's okay.."
It's not only me and everyone else I know that thinks that way. Criticism is not bad, it can be quite enriching IMHO.
It's not only me and everyone else I know that thinks that way. Criticism is not bad, it can be quite enriching IMHO.
Scrofula
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These guys are also pizzagaters. It's honestly like trying to convince a cult member to come home. Something beyond reason compels them to stay, even as the Kool-Aid* Brand Flavored Drink Mix by Kraft is being prepared.
909 people died in Jonestown, a lot of them from the Kool-Aid they drank voluntarily, knowing what was in it. WTF it is with humans, I don't know.
909 people died in Jonestown, a lot of them from the Kool-Aid they drank voluntarily, knowing what was in it. WTF it is with humans, I don't know.
LiquidMethod
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Not only do they get scrutiny, they get the Attorney-General & the Director of the FBI to cover for them when investigators have found direct evidence of serious crimes. If you are cool with that, then by your logic Trump cannot be charged with anything either. I almost want investigators to find evidence of Trump mishandling classified information via email just to see the schizophrenic rationalizations that the Left will come up with in order to charge him.
Erikmen
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Exactly.
A bit like a cult membership that will excuse anything and everything and agree blindly to everything their leader will do.
By the way, I once saw a documentary about Scientology and it was hard for me to believe that so many people actually bought. From the beginning, the first guy who had the idea was pretty inventive and sort of created something that didn't existed. He had to move away from the States not to be caught. And still- you'll find a lot of celebrities today that have divorced over their beliefs which is based on something completely vague and not totally honest. They had admitted on tape that they needed to have one of their first stars on the game or else it would fall apart. Crazy, but true.
i said "for the most part" - but to be honest, i wouldn't call trump a non-violent offender - he's always promoting violence in the most cowardly ways possible.
Erikmen
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Nicely put. Cowardly acting suits him well imo.
I'd honestly see him differently if he for once admitted something. I've seem a lot o presidents saying they could have done better, that they have failed doing this or that, Obama talked about his term, he didn't stay quiet about Guam, something he could not deliver. Even Bush had admitted things had gone wrong at some point. And was gracious towards Obama. This is how people get into History, at the least with a bit of honor.
I'd honestly see him differently if he for once admitted something. I've seem a lot o presidents saying they could have done better, that they have failed doing this or that, Obama talked about his term, he didn't stay quiet about Guam, something he could not deliver. Even Bush had admitted things had gone wrong at some point. And was gracious towards Obama. This is how people get into History, at the least with a bit of honor.
LiquidMethod
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No it's not, fuck all that bullshit. You get remembered by your actions, you should not care what some psychopath says to you to make you believe that he feels remorse for all of his evil acts. They're just words.
Libtards have no idea that they are also part of a cult. Introspection is something that their kind are severely lacking (see Hillary). Trump supporters wish that there were more people in politics like Trump (non-PC candidates that get shit done) but unfortunately he is on his own and that's why he has so many supporters. You just view them as cult-like however they recognize his faults. There are just far more pros than cons.
people consider trump supporters 'cult-like' because you guys seem incapable of questioning or criticising him.
and it's pretty silly to assume everyone that opposes trump is a liberal - or "libtard" as you so eloquently put it.
we are a broad coalition of people who oppose tyranny, mysogyny and racism. i'm certainly not a liberal.
and it's pretty silly to assume everyone that opposes trump is a liberal - or "libtard" as you so eloquently put it.
we are a broad coalition of people who oppose tyranny, mysogyny and racism. i'm certainly not a liberal.
Erikmen
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Seriously? And what do his actions really say about him? Actually, what actions are you talking about. Tweets? The Rep. Party and the people aren't supporting him. The lowest approval rates, now 33%. And it's funny because I didn't need a paper or a magazine to tell me that. It's so obvious. But you can't see that.
And you say they're just words. If he was your school best friend ever, maybe. Words matter when you represent something important, your values, your family, Your Country, your future or the lack of it, not to mention your health. Can't you see how divided the country is. But again you can't see that, I forget. That is my point.
The way I view all of this is pretty much how most people view them, not only in US. I've been around, I've read reports from other Embassies not only the American Embassy. This is not a local or isolated opinion, it's pretty much worldwide. Look up, like I once told you, pick a country and read their news when it comes to Trump.
For most people I know, from most reports I've read, Trump is someone who is not bringing people together, who is far from achieving his goals. He is just an arrogant narcissist. Sorry to break that to you. And you can tell that from his actions that you value so much.
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