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2010 NFL Season

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alasdairm said:
i don't hate him but i do think he did a horrible thing. he also was charged, found guilty and did his time.

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Some people (including myself) think he got off easy. A lot more should have happened than did. He deserves to be killed. He murdered hundreds of living creatures.
 
I love animals, they are all my furry friends.

Vick participated in a horrible crime. I don't think that he killed the dogs himself, but I know at the very least he gave up the use of his house for dog-fighting.

however, he paid his price to society. it's easy to be judgmental. in the South, dog fighting is ingrained into some of the minds of the more backwater beings. I would assume it is just like horse racing up in the North East or playing poker with your buddies on Sunday night.

still, no excuse. but America does love its redemption stories. and so do I. I have fucked up in the all seeing eyes and the reach of the long arm of the law. however, I atoned for my sins and now I am better of because of it.

plus, god damn! he's just SO fast!
 
axl blaze said:
still, no excuse. but America does love its redemption stories. and so do I. I have fucked up in the all seeing eyes and the reach of the long arm of the law. however, I atoned for my sins and now I am better of because of it.
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Yeah, but have you ever done anything as horrible as dog murdering? Maybe you fucked up in the eyes of the law, but the law often gets it wrong. I don't know your story, but I doubt it was anything near as bad as what Vick did. Some crimes are redeemable and others aren't. Two years in jail for the murder of like a hundred dogs does not redeem him in my book, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion on matters such as this.
 
Why do the personal lives of athletes have to be such a huge issue?

He is a good QB and he has done his time, let him play and he could be great. Shit, send him to the 49ers if you all in Philly dont want him, we could use a QB like vick.
 
Dolphins look good this season. Mike Nolan's blitz every play defense is really coming along well. Even former first round bust Jason Alllen is beginning to look like a superstar in it, picking off two passes today, with a third INT called back due to a penalty.

On the other teams note, Brett Farve looks like a 41 year old should look on the football field this year. I can't see the Vikings going too far, coming back from an 0-2 start to the season. Let the calling for Tavaris Jackson begin!
 
theotherside26 said:
My Texans pulled it off again............this is our season for sure. We got the 0-2 cowboys next week but we are looking gooooooooooood :)
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I think you will win only because the cowboys offense is horrible. Their defense can win that game for them though. It will be the best D Houston has seen so far.
 
Vick let dogs fight.......which they have done for centuries and centuries....I really don't understand the hate. We use to have dogs for the sole purpose of protecting us and eating other animals all through history.......are we so civilized now that dog fighting should ruin a career?
 
theotherside26 said:
Vick let dogs fight.......which they have done for centuries and centuries....I really don't understand the hate. We use to have dogs for the sole purpose of protecting us and eating other animals all through history.......are we so civilized now that dog fighting should ruin a career?
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You obviously don't understand what happens in these dog fighting rings and the issues associated with them. For one, dog fighting is in large part the reason why pitbulls, one of the sweetest breeds of dog known to man, have such an aggressive reputation now.

Of course, without dog fighting we wouldn't have had pitbulls in the first place, so it kind of goes in a circle.

I hate cruelty to animals in all its forms. I'm one of those people who laughs when a bull impales a bullfighter.

It's also not just letting dogs fight. It is breeding dogs specifically for the purpose of fighting, breeding the dogs that have the highest propensity for inter-species violence instead of breeding dogs that are safe to be around other dogs, animals (your house cat for example) and non-intrusive people. Also using the dogs that didn't turn out to be the fighters they were supposed to be as chew toys for prize fighters, killing the losers in ways that the word "cruelty" doesn't even begin to describe, and I can go on forever about what is wrong with dog fighting. Hopefully you get the point.
 
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You obviously don't understand what happens in these dog fighting rings and the issues associated with them. For one, dog fighting is in large part the reason why pitbulls, one of the sweetest breeds of dog known to man, have such an aggressive reputation now.

Of course, without dog fighting we wouldn't have had pitbulls in the first place, so it kind of goes in a circle.

I hate cruelty to animals in all its forms. I'm one of those people who laughs when a bull impales a bullfighter.

It's also not just letting dogs fight. It is breeding dogs specifically for the purpose of fighting, breeding the dogs that have the highest propensity for inter-species violence instead of breeding dogs that are safe to be around other dogs, animals (your house cat for example) and non-intrusive people. Also using the dogs that didn't turn out to be the fighters they were supposed to be as chew toys for prize fighters, killing the losers in ways that the word "cruelty" doesn't even begin to describe, and I can go on forever about what is wrong with dog fighting. Hopefully you get the point.
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Wouldn't have a problem with dogfighting if it was under the rules the Japanese have for the Tosa Inu. It's Sumo for Dogs. Dogs aren't allowed to make any sound or they are disqualified. Can't bite or they are disqualified. And before anyone says the Tosa's are pussies, they would have Pits for pre-meal snack if it ever got real. There is no reason to have animals in your care savagely attacking another.
 
NFL THREAD.NFL THREAD.NFL THREAD.NFL THREAD.NFL THREAD.NFL THREAD.NFL THREAD.

Not the morality thread. You do realize that there are people playing the the NFL that have killed PEOPLE! Ray Lewis just got away with it. (Some people say he didn't do it but he gave the daughters of the deceased miiiiiillions.) It's not like the NFL is full out outstanding citizens. Every month you hear about a player beating the shit out of his wife which I feel is worse than dog fighting. Sure, what Vick did was an awful thing and I in no way support it, I love dogs. But he is far from the worst person in the NFL and comments like "needs to die" are fucking absurd. "I'm against dog fighting but I am for KILLING PEOPLE." Some of you are ridiculous. Stop watching football if you want to see good hearted people.
alasdairm said:
i don't hate him but i do think he did a horrible thing. he also was charged, found guilty and did his time.
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Quoted for truth.

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That being said Vick did pretty damn good yesterday for not starting in 4 years. Not good enough to take the job away from Kolb but still pretty good.

The Vikings made me want to kill myself.

That Moss TD catch was insane.

And lol @ Eli.
 
I was most pleased with the Bengals yesterday. It makes me laugh to hear people say the AFC north is the Steelers and Ravens division. Cincinnati is 7-0 against the AFC north this season and last.Why suddenly after they have a better team than last year they are no longer considered to win it again is beyond me.

They got off to a horrible start against N.E and shut down Flacco and the Ravens yesterday.

Oh yeah and Vick still sucks. Hopefully he will have a career ending injury soon. That would make me so happy.
 
smotpoker said:
I was most pleased with the Bengals yesterday. It makes me laugh to hear people say the AFC north is the Steelers and Ravens division. Cincinnati is 7-0 against the AFC north this season and last.Why suddenly after they have a better team than last year they are no longer considered to win it again is beyond me.
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Because they didnt see Polamalu in 2009. ;)

Now he is back and when Ben is back, let's see what happens when both teams are at full strength.
 
MrLeading said:
That being said Vick did pretty damn good yesterday for not starting in 4 years. Not good enough to take the job away from Kolb but still pretty good.
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how has Vick NOT been better than Kolb, so far? Kolb has been atrocious so far this year.

smotpoker said:
I was most pleased with the Bengals yesterday. It makes me laugh to hear people say the AFC north is the Steelers and Ravens division. Cincinnati is 7-0 against the AFC north this season and last.Why suddenly after they have a better team than last year they are no longer considered to win it again is beyond me.
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no one doubts that the Bengals have talent, I just doubt their ability to maintain an elite club in the NFL. this is for many reasons. I feel like they have mediocre coaches all around (despite d-coordinator), players that perhaps care more about their fame than football, and a really really stupid catchphrase chant.

just kidding on the last one ;) I think NFL fans will take the Bengals with more weight when they can post up multiple winning seasons in a row
 
Atrocious? I feel like that's a little premature figuring he's only played two quarters and his o-line got him sacked 3 times with the last knocking him out of the game. Not much of a chance to show off what he's got. Kolb is a great quarterback and will have a great game next week vs. Jacksonville.
 
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