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jordan never had a legitimate post presence yet still dominated the L.
we saw kobe w/o a post presence and he was tracy mcgrady.
MJ had no post prescence? not true man. So a guy like dennis rodman who is one of only maybe 7 players to ever average 18 rebounds per game isnt a legit post prescence. whats the saying by pat riley go? "no rebounds no rings" Rodman is known as one of the greatest rebounders of all time on any nba list there is more to post prescence then offence.
he got his numbers through volume, not necessarily efficiency.
not to mention that tracy mcgrady put up similarly superb numbers and was more efficient while doing it.
1. ok lets brake down stats here per minute of actual playing time. points per minute is a great way to determine an offensive force. MJ is at .78 points per minute it is #1 among all players who have ever averaged over 20ppg for their careers. Kobe scores .70 per minute if he were to retire today. now that looks like less but if we were to divide shots per minute of playing time. Mj threw up .59 per minute for his career while kobe only chucks up .52 you call kobe a volume guy? in actuality Jordan shot the ball more frequently than kobe does.
im not faulting jordan at all. he is the goat for a reason but saying that kobe isnt in the top 10 or close to jordan in skill is insane. kobe's Points per minute for his career beat out people such as Clyde drexler, oscar robertson, larry bird, Dr. J, Wilt chamberlin, kareem, elgin baylor, jerry west, durant and leborn just to name a few
he also is leading the current nba season in pointer per 48 minutes of playing time by leaps and bounds.
2. T-macs greatest season was 32 points per game off 45% was the highpoint of his subpar career. kobes 35 points per game off of 45% shooting is actually considered a low time in his 5 ringed career. t-mac was a star but really shouldnt be mentioned when were talking about the real greats listed on this and the last page.
in 04-05 he chucked it up 20 times a game to get his 27.6 points (1.38 points per shot), shooting 43%. his player efficiency rating (PER) was 23.3.
in 05-06 he needed 27.2 shots to get 35.4 points (1.31 points per shot), shooting 45 percent. his PER was 28.0.
in 06-07 he burned through 22.8 shots to get 31.6 points (1.38 points per shot), shooting 46.3 percent. he picked up 5.4 assists but turned it over 3.4 times a game, leading to a 26.1 PER.
these were the seasons the lakers orginazation went through a rebuilding peroid and bryant was literally the only quality player which ment he HAD to take more shots and defenders could pay less attention to everyone else on the floor. trust me go take a look at they guys kobe dragged to the playoffs. dont think smush parker is doing so hot now.
about 75-80% of kobe bryant's shots are jumpers. (source: 82games.com). jump-shots (specifically those from 18-24 feet) are the lowest-percentage shot in the game. your productivity comes from both 3-pointers and the paint, as getting in the paint leads to a higher percentage from the field, free throws, and assists.
james' jumper isn't his strong suit, but it doesn't matter because he gets into the paint at will, and is the best finisher in the L inside the paint. getting into the paint collapses the defense, geting you fouls, easy dunks, and assists that lead to easy dunks. (not to mention offensive rebound opportunities
Kobe shoots more jump shots because hes a great jump shooter just like how dwight howard blocks more shots because hes a great shot blocker... if your trying to say this means kobe has no post game your wrong my friend I believe Kobe led the leage in points in the post for about half of last season beating out guys like howard and lebron.
there is a difference between points in the paint and points in the post. lebron gets many of his points in the pain during transition or cuts from the perimeter which shows that he cant get to the pain at will, if he could he would have a post game. his actual post play (back to the basket in post) is horrible.
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