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Opioids 20 mg opana to suboxone please help?

dpatches

dpatches

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I've been on suboxone 4mgs a day for about 2 years now. I've been pretty good on them but have chipped a few times on 100mcg/h fentanyl patches then getting right back on track. Well this month I ran into a problem with a week to go before getting my script I dropped my remaining suboxone overboard while out on my lobster boat. Needless to say I went into pretty serious withdrawals and only had access to 20 mg opana and have been snorting two a day for a week now.

Up until this point I'd never done opana and I don't really know much about it except that it was very potent. 20 hours after my last 2mg suboxone dose was when I did a whole 20 mg pill. I was surprised and pleased when it broke through the sub and I felt great.The rest of the I've been snorting two pills a day except half of one at a time.

From the research I'd done on here I had seen that the opanas had a fairly long half life.. I was amazed at this because within 4- 6 hours of snorting a half I was going into pretty severe withdrawals. There was a couple nights that I'd done a half at 10pm gone to bed and awoke at 2 am in complete withdrawals.
When I was going on my fent benders I was taking my suboxone too soon and had been thrown into severe precipitated withdrawals. These were the worst mind fuck in the world and lasted a week. I know I had taken it too early it was only 24 hrs after removing the patch and I don't really wasn't in as bad of withdrawals as I am after 6 hours after opana. I don't ever want to go through p/wsvagain.
So what I'm getting at is I've gotten my script and am ready to go back on my subs. It's been 10hrsvsince my last opana and I feel like 100% death. I don't want to go into p/ws and need some advice. Back when I was doing oxys I used to be able to do a 80 in the morning fell like shit in the afternoon and do sub with no problems. So my question is what factors determine the precipitated withdrawals and when you should dose with sub? Is it the half life of the full agonist? How bad you feel withdrawals? Or has my system just changed since I been on sub soon long.
I know that there is no exact time and each person is different. But I really wanna avoid p/ws but feel like total shit. All I want is back on my subs cuz I'm sick of feeling like death and having to dose opana every 4 hours. Thanx in advance to anyone who reads this through.
 
If you are in withdrawals, esp full blown w/d's, it's probably safe to take buprenorphine
 
Well this sucks ass. I was able to fall asleep for a couple hours last night but I awoke at 2 in the morning in full blown withdrawal's. I laid there a while fought the mattress but couldn't take it. I dosed 1mg of suboxone. I don't think it really helped but I was able to sleep. I awoke at 9 still didn't feel.great so doses my usual morning dose of 2mg. It still did nothing. I don't understand why it isn't helping me.
 
Why dont you take a bigger fucking dose dude? It's like you're trying to keep yourself miserable. I know when I'm in a full on w/d I need a good 8mg to stabalize. Do you not have any at your disposal?
 
People who take these small doses (1mg-4mg) often are taking it for mantinence and not for detoxing
 
No I have plenty wasn't sure if I should bc a previous poster said take 1mg. I will gladly take a whole one if it will make me feel better. Thanx bro
 
my bad for not explaining more i was busy but i meant take 1 mg see if it helps and if not take more.. also look up how to best get the absorbtion out of it and you'll save some.. sorry if i helped keep you in misery bro
 
It's cool paper planes I've done all this to myself and none of this was nearly as bad as precipitated withdrawals. I've taken 16mg so far and feel much better but not quite 100% don't know why normally 4mg used to kick my oxy or dope withdrawals. But like I said I don't know anything about opana. Thanx to served00 too. Thanx again really didn't want precipitated withdrawals especially since I'm leaving for a week long lobstering trip tomorrow and being on the high seas going thru those sucks . I know I've done it.
 
when you can get back down to around 4 mg or even 2 mg cuz i was on it for 3 yrs and that was by far the best dose but i used the alcohol solution
 
I had a similar experience with oxymorphone. I had been using bupe (1mg/day IV) as maintenance, and a friend hooked me up with a whole bunch of the old 10mg Opana IR's. Within two days I was injecting 10mg at a time, 5-6xday. It's weird because according to the half life, oxymorphone is a relatively long lasting opioid, but I found myself needing to fix way more than I did when I was using heroin.

When I switched back to suboxone, I stupidly waited only 12 hours after my last 10mg shot of Opana. I knew this was cutting it close, but with heroin, I've almost always been able to make the transition smoothly after 12-16 hours. However Oxymorphone was a completely different story. I took 2mg sublingually, and went into precipitated withdrawals. Throughout the next 24 hours I consumed around 24mg of suboxone and was able to keep myself feeling relatively stable, though I did not feel "well" or "normal" by any means, for almost a week. Opana is a really strong opioid, and IMO, for this particular narcotic, methadone is a wiser choice as a means to taper.
 
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