Beings
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New update inserted on March 25.
Ok the whole heart arrhythmias bs, that I wrote before in this trip report was told to me, so that I explain to my work wtf hapenned to me, and since arrhythmias can sometimes just happen for any reason, it was a great excuse to tell me, so that I in turn would tell it to my work, and explain why I decided to miss over a week of work, and why my mom originally called my manager in tears saying I would be unable to come to work. In tears because before the call she spoke to head doc, who in turn said I could be a brain dead vegetable. No gurantees for survival what so ever
Anyhoo I obviously found out somewhat shortly after my posts below what the fuck really hapenned. Just did not feel like editing some thread I made, as it is already waay archived, no one will look at it, and there of course was some emberassment of me being dumb enough to be this stupid.
I will not edit the original post, it will remain at the bottom. It is chronologically correct, and eveyrthing I said was true to me at that time.
Now what really hapenned (posted at a different thread on hyponatremia here http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?p=4866141#post4866141
This is a quick cut n paste, but it will make sense if anyone ever looks at this again.
Everything below this is my original post, I decided not to modify it at all
My memories are a bit hazy but here it is. I got 5 pils of E for new years eve. There were only 3 of us, at my place, were were dancing, and playing Dead or Alive 4 on the xbox, and just going crazy. My 2 friends were drinkining, I was not since I wanted to spare my liver with MDMA. Here comes mignight, woo 2007, I chug down an mdma pill on an empty stomache with warm water so it dissolves faster. Over an hour passes, nothing, I wait a bit more, an hour and 25 mins passes nothing. I figure since I take an ECA stack quite often prior to workouts, maybe my tollarances are much higher (ECA = 32mg ephedrine, 200mg caffeinne, and and 325mg apririn ). Looking and MDMA LD50 doses, seems taking 2 should not kill you; saying that purelily out of my ass, since all pills have different mdma ammounts in them, but at the same time some folks seem to require 200mg and most pills on average have about ~70mg it seems, so I take another one. Then MDMA hits, no windmills, no compassion no love, I was like the energizer bunny, did not stop moving for a second. In fact if the doctors did not say they found mdma in my blood, I would not have believed that I took E in the first place, just took speed.
As time was going I was drinking plenty, everything was ok, till about 7am. At 7 I have never felt so shitty in my life, I ate a bunch of oranges , no luck, still felt like shit, my friends walked me outside onto fresh cold air no help. I came home it was something else. First I almost threw up my liver or a kindey, as I was throwing up, a cramp in my stomache got me so bad, I fell on my knees. I looked at the watch, it was 7am. mdma should have been coming off, but it was not, my vission was still blurry, my friends offered to call 911, I said no need the high should come off soon as the high lasts only 5-4 hours. The next hour was pretty said, I was drinking and throwing up all over. I was afraid not to drink, because I may pass out and die from dehydration, yet I could not hold anything in my stomache, it all flew out after i drank each time. All my muscles started to ache. My friends askemd me one more time, should thy call 911, I said, no it is slightly better now and I was laying down on my bed. They had to go home, I told them I will sleep it off, and that they should go home. Time was ~8AM.
My dad got home at 7pm.
He found me on the courch in a coma like state with some brownish shit comiing out of my mouth. He obviously called 911, ambulance came, they tried to connect me to an ivy, I started convulcing, so they cut up my vein by an accident, I got a big ass puddle of blood on my carpet. Once I got to the hospital, they asked my folks what the hell did I take, obviouly they had no idea, they called up the people who I was with, they took a cab to the hospital right away, told the doc, 2 pills of MDMA. They did a a CT scan, apperantly water could have gone do the brain and caused damge, as I threw up evrything my brain was alright (or so they tell me, I sure as hell dont feel alright lol).
Apperantly I was diagnosed with advanced arrhythmias, my bloodpressure was all over the place lowest was at 20, highest ceiling was at 186. They interveniously injected 8 literes of sodium solution into me as I washed out the salts out of my body or something. Apperantly I managed to punch a doc when I was delirious, so they chaincuffed me to the bed, I still managed to kind get on my tippy toes, slide to the very edge of the bed, sit there and cuss at the entire hospital. So they shot me full of sedatives.
The next thing I remember after Jan1 7am, was waking up at about 8pm Jan 2. I really wanted to take a leak, but I could not think for shit, nor could I see that I was cuffed, so I spent half an hour trying to figure out why I could not get up form the bed. Then the doc came, asked me how I was, obviously realized right away what hapenned. I asked him why they found in my blood, he was pretty cool, smiled said Amphetamines and MDMA. Then all of a sudden a pshychyatrist from Devry or something came by, gave my folks all his numberes, told them I will fall into a crazy depression or something, so when I do they should give him a call, he will councel me out of the drug.
I did not even remember the drip from hospital home, not sure if I was still high from the drugs or sedatives. Tried to type this yesterday with zero luck, the keyboard tripped me out, ould not concentrate on the keys.
I still have mad musscle ache all over my body, I cant even yawn its hurts like a bitch. Also have a huge headache still if I shake my head, nor can bend over, as it hurts like a bitch when bloed flows into the head.
I guess I should appologize, if my ass keeled over I would've been another example in the book for authorities, and more heat for responsible users.
BTW, does anyone have any idea wtf hapenned? I run 10K twice a week, so there is no way my body could not have handled a bit of taxation. From whay I understand, My kidneys shut down, I was no longer able to piss, the rest is history.
Sigh, of and any recomendation for my noggin, I feel stupid? Not completely retarded but something is just not right lol.
Ok the whole heart arrhythmias bs, that I wrote before in this trip report was told to me, so that I explain to my work wtf hapenned to me, and since arrhythmias can sometimes just happen for any reason, it was a great excuse to tell me, so that I in turn would tell it to my work, and explain why I decided to miss over a week of work, and why my mom originally called my manager in tears saying I would be unable to come to work. In tears because before the call she spoke to head doc, who in turn said I could be a brain dead vegetable. No gurantees for survival what so ever
Anyhoo I obviously found out somewhat shortly after my posts below what the fuck really hapenned. Just did not feel like editing some thread I made, as it is already waay archived, no one will look at it, and there of course was some emberassment of me being dumb enough to be this stupid.
I will not edit the original post, it will remain at the bottom. It is chronologically correct, and eveyrthing I said was true to me at that time.
Now what really hapenned (posted at a different thread on hyponatremia here http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?p=4866141#post4866141
This is a quick cut n paste, but it will make sense if anyone ever looks at this again.
Beings said:Talk about WIERD! I have had hyponatremia this new year's eve (first time doing E, and today I did E my second time ever and I see your post)
My silly story: Drank some booze during the new years eve, then stopped let it chill for 2-3hours (no booze) dropped 2 pills later after midnite, long story short, I read about E causing you to dehydrate and the importance of staying hydrated while on E lol, nothing about it causing hyponatremia from too much water.Talk about reading comprehension.
I managed to consume over 5-6 liters after i took the pills. I passed out at 7-8am from the pain of malaise after sending the friends home. Parents found me over 12 hours later after passing out convulsing, completelly delirious, not self consious and caughing up some brown shit like bile or something (doctor refered to jaundice).
Hyponatremia in advance stages is no joke, water rushes to brain, and through reverse osmosis makes swiss cheeze out of your brain. On January 1 evening, I managed to get a CATSCAN without waiting at all, which is quite an achievement considering how many people from car accident show up on 1st and etc, and priorities are handed out to those who need it most for survival.
I was unconsious for 3 days, in the hospital. Prolly from the sedatives though to stop me from severely convulsing, also had handcuffs on my on feet and arms not to knock out any docs. Not going into more detail, i did write a trip report about it (first time on E, yay lol)
Anyhoo myself, I was super super super lucky. My total damage was extensive liver damage from having to filter fucked up blood (my own hypothesys, I think blood being super low in sodium is bad for liver), liver function test was well over ~1100 units (AST/ALT etc..) and that was on friday when they took blood test for lft. God knows the stuff was on that Monday, and norms are 50 units and less. Suprisingly no brain damage, oh and I also jog like a mother fucker and have a strong heart/body so pulled it through, doc did mention to my folks that normally heart would pop quite a while before to where I got. (over 12 hours) If anyone cares, 2 months of eating almost nothign but veggies, and a metric tonne of milk thistle, my liver now shows normal LFT tests, just jaundice is still high, at 19, when a lot have it at 0.
BTW, feeling fucked up liver felt exactly like being stiched up in the side, same as when you jog sometimes and get a stich, cept this stich did not go away for over a month even if you lay down, and even now, booze makes me return to same stitched up feeling, and it remains for a couple of days.
Something that most people do not know, is that hyponatremia has very distinct feel, and from first symptoms you have like 2 hours to take action before you become incapacitated. So call 911 if you feel it, driving would be impossible.
For me major symptoms were
- extreme tunnel vision, as if the outer edges of my pupils had veseline smothered all over them. You see in the middle of your vision sight, but anything off say 30 degrees and more is just whilte and blurry.
-malaise was not a joke, imagine super shitty tired uneasy pain feeling all over your body, something that you have NEVER felt before (I sure as hell did not know wtf malaise feels like and what it was at that time, but it was very distinct, and I have never felt this before). Kinda like musscle soreness, but apply this to EVERY molecule in your body, everywhere, and it progressively feels stronger, first you laydown/sit down as standing becomes unbearable. Laying feels a little bit better, you eyes get tired, you close them, they never open again, unless you are lucky.
-abdominal cramps. Probably the kidneys shutting down. Not like a cramp when you gotta fart and cant, this is VERY different, much lower, and when it cramps up, your whole body spasms, I while standing leaning on the sink trying to throw up, had to fall down on the floor and grab my knees in fetal position, shit was painful, and scary another NEW sensation you most likelly have not felt before.
If you feel these symptoms, 911 folks, you cant just sleep it off/shrug it off.
I wish your friend all the very best, and so that he gets well.
Lol, pic of my veins after new years party of mine, I count like 12 holes hahaha
If url not working, here is closeup http://img489.imageshack.us/my.php?image=addictlt5.jpg
Tonite I rolled on gatorade. FUCK YOU WATER.
Everything below this is my original post, I decided not to modify it at all
My memories are a bit hazy but here it is. I got 5 pils of E for new years eve. There were only 3 of us, at my place, were were dancing, and playing Dead or Alive 4 on the xbox, and just going crazy. My 2 friends were drinkining, I was not since I wanted to spare my liver with MDMA. Here comes mignight, woo 2007, I chug down an mdma pill on an empty stomache with warm water so it dissolves faster. Over an hour passes, nothing, I wait a bit more, an hour and 25 mins passes nothing. I figure since I take an ECA stack quite often prior to workouts, maybe my tollarances are much higher (ECA = 32mg ephedrine, 200mg caffeinne, and and 325mg apririn ). Looking and MDMA LD50 doses, seems taking 2 should not kill you; saying that purelily out of my ass, since all pills have different mdma ammounts in them, but at the same time some folks seem to require 200mg and most pills on average have about ~70mg it seems, so I take another one. Then MDMA hits, no windmills, no compassion no love, I was like the energizer bunny, did not stop moving for a second. In fact if the doctors did not say they found mdma in my blood, I would not have believed that I took E in the first place, just took speed.
As time was going I was drinking plenty, everything was ok, till about 7am. At 7 I have never felt so shitty in my life, I ate a bunch of oranges , no luck, still felt like shit, my friends walked me outside onto fresh cold air no help. I came home it was something else. First I almost threw up my liver or a kindey, as I was throwing up, a cramp in my stomache got me so bad, I fell on my knees. I looked at the watch, it was 7am. mdma should have been coming off, but it was not, my vission was still blurry, my friends offered to call 911, I said no need the high should come off soon as the high lasts only 5-4 hours. The next hour was pretty said, I was drinking and throwing up all over. I was afraid not to drink, because I may pass out and die from dehydration, yet I could not hold anything in my stomache, it all flew out after i drank each time. All my muscles started to ache. My friends askemd me one more time, should thy call 911, I said, no it is slightly better now and I was laying down on my bed. They had to go home, I told them I will sleep it off, and that they should go home. Time was ~8AM.
My dad got home at 7pm.
He found me on the courch in a coma like state with some brownish shit comiing out of my mouth. He obviously called 911, ambulance came, they tried to connect me to an ivy, I started convulcing, so they cut up my vein by an accident, I got a big ass puddle of blood on my carpet. Once I got to the hospital, they asked my folks what the hell did I take, obviouly they had no idea, they called up the people who I was with, they took a cab to the hospital right away, told the doc, 2 pills of MDMA. They did a a CT scan, apperantly water could have gone do the brain and caused damge, as I threw up evrything my brain was alright (or so they tell me, I sure as hell dont feel alright lol).
Apperantly I was diagnosed with advanced arrhythmias, my bloodpressure was all over the place lowest was at 20, highest ceiling was at 186. They interveniously injected 8 literes of sodium solution into me as I washed out the salts out of my body or something. Apperantly I managed to punch a doc when I was delirious, so they chaincuffed me to the bed, I still managed to kind get on my tippy toes, slide to the very edge of the bed, sit there and cuss at the entire hospital. So they shot me full of sedatives.
The next thing I remember after Jan1 7am, was waking up at about 8pm Jan 2. I really wanted to take a leak, but I could not think for shit, nor could I see that I was cuffed, so I spent half an hour trying to figure out why I could not get up form the bed. Then the doc came, asked me how I was, obviously realized right away what hapenned. I asked him why they found in my blood, he was pretty cool, smiled said Amphetamines and MDMA. Then all of a sudden a pshychyatrist from Devry or something came by, gave my folks all his numberes, told them I will fall into a crazy depression or something, so when I do they should give him a call, he will councel me out of the drug.
I did not even remember the drip from hospital home, not sure if I was still high from the drugs or sedatives. Tried to type this yesterday with zero luck, the keyboard tripped me out, ould not concentrate on the keys.
I still have mad musscle ache all over my body, I cant even yawn its hurts like a bitch. Also have a huge headache still if I shake my head, nor can bend over, as it hurts like a bitch when bloed flows into the head.
I guess I should appologize, if my ass keeled over I would've been another example in the book for authorities, and more heat for responsible users.
BTW, does anyone have any idea wtf hapenned? I run 10K twice a week, so there is no way my body could not have handled a bit of taxation. From whay I understand, My kidneys shut down, I was no longer able to piss, the rest is history.
Sigh, of and any recomendation for my noggin, I feel stupid? Not completely retarded but something is just not right lol.
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). They did take these over a time course of say, 5 hours so I guess that would make a big difference.