• Trip Reports Moderator: M!$ter-ED

2.5mg DOC - First significant dose - After Hours ... and On and On ...

mezcal

Bluelighter
Joined
Mar 4, 2007
Messages
81
Finally made it onto erowid...
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=58452

Got a blue star! :D

Here's the text:

After Hours ... and On and On ...
DOC
by Mezcal


DOSE:
T+ 0:00 1.5 mg oral DOC (capsule)
T+ 1:00 1 mg oral DOC (capsule)
T+ 2:39 2 capsls oral Kava (extract)
T+ 8:30 glasses oral Alcohol - Beer/Wine (liquid)

BODY WEIGHT: 195 lb


Subject: 23 year old male, 195lb, at home, on the weekend.

T (1:30 PM) 1.25-1.75mg of known 2.5mg quantity of DOC taken with 200mg vitamin C and unknown quantity hoodia gordini extract in veg gelcap.

T+:36 Feeling of gradual, relaxed stimulation... unlike tryptamine come-ups, things just seem deeper. No sense of things happening in the peripheral visual field, just a sense of vastness and depth.

T+1:01 Feeling comfortable with the body load, remaining substance taken. Total amount ingested now 2.5mg. Feeling elevated mood, some color shifting (minor) and increased attenuation to music. Browsing the internet. Feel +/-.

T+1:20 Feel borderline +/++. Increased presence of first dose, likely. With patience, a ~1.5mg dose seems like it would turn out positive, but I am eager to see what pushing the dosage up will be like. Visual anomalies (open-eyed) are slight, but present. Close eyed-visuals are present, not just lights on dark space, but complete lit scenes with geometric patternings. CEVs are reminiscent of high-dose MDA, psilocin, somewhat mescaline (though not as immersive). I don't doubt that will get to ++, but I'm eager to see the rest of the chronology of the uptake. I'm quite sure that if I had taken all at once I'd be feeling fairly strong effects now. I decide that I need to walk around, clean up a bit, drink some water and I consider watching a film.

T+1:35 Effects increasing very quickly, some motor difficulty, discoordination!? Drinking water. Feels a bit like the appearance of psilocin's effects.

(Edit: had significant difficulty maintaining coordination and attention to describe the perceptual changes occurring. Felt a little nervous, as I was alone and unfamiliar with the substance, but was able to stay grounded. I fully understood that I had taken a safe dose and would be in better shape later, but I did feel fairly unsettled.)

T+2:39 Difficult to maintain tasks, watching movie (After Hours) [Edit: watch this movie, but not on a huge amount of hallucinogen you've never fully tripped on]. Took two capsules of kava extract. (Felt like I needed something to calm the somatic sensations of the DOC, it was getting a little rough on the body, but I was also nervous and didn't really have anywhere to go. Decided keeping myself occupied with the film would be the best idea. Time passes and I'm tripping very hard.)

T+4:54 Seems subjectively like the peak might be up? Hard to determine.

T+5:10 Brain-bending. I've literally spent the time between now and then staring into the computer screen, falling through fractalized thought patterns. (There is a distinct amphetamine psychosis feel to some of the mental trip, but it's not bad, just racing.)

T+6:15 Peak definitely stretches out, still difficult to do things when concentrating. Physically feel a bit better. Some muscle tension. It comes up fast, time-dilation is real.

T+8:41 Feeling down(ish), drinking beer and watching football. Doubtful that I could sleep now, but feel optimistic that I'll get rest later.

T+13:15 Still some residual stimulation. CEVs are beautiful, but talking with my partner is satisfying. Feel a good afterglow- like I had doubts while it was going on, but now I'm glad I tried it, even with the larger dose. I whole-heartedly recommend that people restrict their initial significant doses to under 2mg (after trying .2-.3mg to make sure there is no serious physical reaction).

Slept 4 hours from T+14:30 to T+18:40 (4:00AM til 8:10AM). Had very passionate sex earlier in the night. Feel a little light-headed, probably from lack of sleep and the alcohol I drank last night. Before sleeping, had vivid episodes of childhood memories coming back in picturesque format. Napped a bit, on and off until noon (T+22:30). Feel 100% baseline after T+24:00.

If I had to compare the experience to other psychedelic drugs, I'd say it was most like high-dose MDA (without the physical sensations) WITH the effects of a fairly high dose of LSD. The mental effects were more like psilocin, but the visual was more... disordered, disoriented, but, not entirely unpleasant- in fact, quite unique and intriguing. It may very well vary with other trials, and I intend to experiment, but I plan to keep dosage around 1.6-2.1mg.


Exp Year: 2005 ID: 58452
Added: Mar 7, 2007 Views: 1
 
Yep, just read it last night in fact. Nice report. How many times have you tried DOC? For me, it got better the more I used it. My best trip on it was with 3.2mg, although I've taken it up to 5. I've found 3-3.5mg doses to be more comfortable (because it's much more immersive and "glowing") than lower doses. The long, long plateau is perhaps my favorite part. I find that it helps me to really understand how to live for the now and get the most out of my day. It leaves me with a wonderful, lucid euphoria and desire to communicate with my friends and fiance.
 
nice. I plan to dose DOC sometime this month. Probably on the 18th, its going to be a full moon.

DOC is defietly one of my favorite chemicals. I actually like it better than 2ce. It has an amazing mental edge, and the visuals are like Hi def TV.

and high doses will send you to space (over 7mg)
nice report.
 
Yeah, DOC becomes almost overwhelmingly visual, but in a very gorgeous and breathtaking way, and once you get the hang of the mental trip, it's actually astonishingly lucid and deep. A good DOC trip (which is easy for me to have) feels extremely cleansing to me, as if my energy has been realigned or something cliche-sounding like that.

The visuals from DOC cause everything to become very colorful and saturated and move dramatically and constantly. But the most amazing part about them is how colored strings that remind me of DNA strands or something seem to be occupying space all around, as if the air is thick and visible and alive.

By the way, I edited the report title to include what I perceived your experience level to be. If what I changed it to is incorrect, please let me know somehow, as I wouldn't want to leave a report title inaccurate.
 
DOC seems to heighten my sense of sight more than any other chemical. I can see every particle crystal clear.

It also sends you into a place where everything makes sense, yet at the same time nothing does.

My thoughts while on DOC are always on the thin line between insanity and genius. I cant decide which it is, if either.
CEV's also produse magnificent swirls, like those creme savers commercials.
But my favorite aspect of DOC is definetly the mental edge, the only other chemical that compares is LSD, yet both have totally different mental aspects, both are incredible
 
Yeah, the first few trips I had with DOC, I dubbed the mental state "divine delerium", because I was so overwhelmed by abstract thoughts and mental noise that I was unable to focus enough to be fully conscious, and the night would slip by in a timeless moment. I believed I was contacting a reptilian collective consciousness separate from my own.

Then on my 5th or 6th trip, can't remember exactly anymore, I figured out how to stay on top of the mental state, so to speak, and I realized that the reptilian consciousness was just our own subconsciousness left over from our reptilian ancestry hundreds of millions of years ago, and I realized that with discipline I could know anything through that collective subconsciousness, which was not separate but instead all of ours.

DOC always has a very distinct ancestral, primordial feel to it somehow. It always makes me think very deeply about our ancestral roots and DNA and the process of evolution and its relationship with consciousness.
 
Excellent report. I enjoyed reading it. Stories like this make me long for the days when I had more time, and I could enjoy psychedelics. Now, I'm too busy and can barely find 6 hours a week to relax, let alone 12+ hours to set aside :(

Nice job though, if you do it again, keep writing, and Ill keep reading :)
 
I believed I was contacting a reptilian collective consciousness separate from my own.
interesting that you mentioned this, cause my little brother had the same thoughts on our first DOC trip (4mg). He felt like his mind was being probed by them....and also didnt mind allowing them to use "us" for their data.

I had a deep collective consciousness trip on DOI. It felt like I was unlocking my cells information and DNA....while doing so I was revealed our past ancestry, just as you have mentioned. It is always assuring to have these thoughts and then have them confirmed by others.

Another chemical that allowed me to see "greenish" cells floating around the room was 4 aco det. At first i thought this green energy/forms around the room was some type of "alien being", but then thought it could possibly be some type of molecular cells manifested. iT WAS like looking into a microscope and seeing bacteria and dentrites and neurons,. but they were magnified and floating around my room. I came to realize and /or believe that before our reptilian ancestry we evolved from bacteria and single cell organisms and are now composed of much more complex sysstems of them.

It is amazing how some psychdelics allow to to tap into your different consciousnesses while others allow you to tap into the gaian mind and /or other realms.

so much to learn and so much invisible landscape to explore.....
 
Xorkoth said:
By the way, I edited the report title to include what I perceived your experience level to be. If what I changed it to is incorrect, please let me know somehow, as I wouldn't want to leave a report title inaccurate.

Experience in what regard?

This was the first and only significant dose I took (though I'm still sitting on the other 240mgs :)

On my introduction I've listed the substances that I've had experience with:

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=295952

Basically the majority of the PEAs and a smattering of other psychedelics.
 
Experience with this particular substance.

Shulgin describes the DOx series as "archetypal" (actually, also some other amphetamine-based psychedelics). I totally agree with this. I've had significant trips on DOC and DOM, and both seemed to offer a different angle into the same sort of space, very ancestral and evolutionary. I'm glad to hear of others finding that same space.
 
Top