2,5-dimethoxy-4-chloroamphetamine (DOC) Problem.

[JonezSmith]

At around 5:20 PM I took 5mg, a moderate dose, of 2,5-dimethoxy-4-chloroamphetamine (DOC). It is currently 7:50 PM and I feel close to nothing. I insulfated all 5mg and ate the capsule it came in. Now this is the first time I've used DOC, so I'm not fully aware of the effects, but I'm sure I should feel more than this by now. I am only feeling a mild euphoria and very, very slight visual hallucinations. I have friends that took half the amount that I have, and they were having full on hallucinations by now. Anyone else out there that had difficulty achieving maximum effects of DOC? And could you tell me how long it took you to peak and what those effects were?
Much appreciated.​

 

[sekio]

5mg of DOC should be tons, perhaps you are just one of the few "hard heads" out there that need 2-3x the dose to get effects.

More likely, it's not DOC. Read the PiHKAL entry maybe? (it suggest a dose of 1 to 3mg)

 

[JonezSmith]

That's what I've been thinking. But I honestly can't say. I'm going to try 7.5mg tomorrow. Consistently go up 2.5mg until 15mg. If that doesn't work, I suppose I will give up with DOC. No point in wasting money, time, or brain cells. But I am 100% sure its DOC. An old buddy of mine, has a PhD in Chemistry and masters in Physiology, makes it himself in his lab down at work. 3 friends of mine took the same amount from the same capsule as me and they are still high at this very moment. Probably reaching a peak right now. The strange thing is, I am the smallest of the 4 of us. At 136 lbs., I would imagine that 5mg would get me higher than I wanted. I have a strange feeling that this has something to do with the fact I insulfated it. My other friends insulfated it as well, but lately snorting empathogens has just not worked for me. I tried snorting 100mg of pure MDMA just the other day, and the effects were very weak as well. Everyone else got perfectly blitzed from it but me. I did break my nose about 6 months ago and never got it corrected, possibly my nasal passages aren't in the greatest condition.

 

[sekio]

Perhaps try eating 1-3mg next time.

 

[JonezSmith]

Thanks. Will do.

 

[clubberdude]

I replied to your previous Eureka thread, but didn't realise you'd insufflated it. That should have blown your head clean off (I insufflated 2-3mg a while back and was one of the most intense trips I've had, and I have a fair bit of experience). When I insufflated it, initial effects came on nearly instantly (felt altered within 20-30 seconds), and was approaching the peak at around 60 minutes in.

 

[✰hyperobjects✰]

As hocus pocus as this sounds, wait before you try it again till it's like the Winter Solstice or like Oct 29th for when Jupiter is the closet in its orbit to earth, in the archived DOC Big and Dandy a few have remarked on DOC"s variable potency day to day from the same batch and related it to having some sort of astrological significance, check it:

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/archive/index.php/t-286886-p-4.html

and on page 5:

22-12-2007, 11:50
Another friend snorted 2mg and 2mg oral, with only slight effects. If Doc does have certain times when it doesn't work on people, like the first two or three times. Then it works later, from the same batch; could this have to do with hormones due to current lunar phases? For instance the winter solstice began yesterday and continues for a couple days. The moon is also close to full.

Not saying I believe in this kind of thing, but there are a few respected data-points that have noticed this effect.

 

[Axed]

DOC seems to vary a lot. Some people take 3mgs and have a +++ experience, while others take 5mgs and only feel +. I wouldn't give up on it so quickly, though.