Thanks guys, for being the first people to not attack me on this post second yes the dad is on 600 and the mother is on 400 so he is not high all day she is not high all day I go over every day to their house now out of 30 days out of the month they are probably nodding out 15 of those days the other 15 they're fine but may I remind you that they have valium and xanex so of course sometimes they get high but they do sell some of their methadone and they do sell some of their benzos so there's always days were there clear headed and they can go to 3 or 4 or sometimes up to 5 days and not be deathly ill, just not feeling well, just needing a benzo or something. now my best friend and me are thing is heroin and sometimes when the dad has no methadone we will make some up a nice shot and it does give him some relief but very very short relief I swear I'm not lying and I'm going over there tonight and if I can talk the dad into taking pictures of the bottle without his name on it just to show you the dosing schedule that the bottle says I would love to show you guys because honestly I don't think anyone believes me
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Opioids 19 days, no heroin, but on MMT
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onetwonine
Bluelighter
I dunno, I was on maintanence for nearly two years. While the pleasure diminished towards the end, which was minimal at the start anyway. It would still put me right out. In that I was sleeping 12-14 hours a day. Literally non-functioning, and this is on only 65mg of done.
Its the main reason I had to taper off.
I have no idea how guys on hundred of mgs get annything done.
what a miserable drug.
Methacodone
Bluelighter
anytime you feel too sleepy on methadone, that means your dose is too high. It takes weeks or even months to people to find their right dose to stay stable for the whole day. When I first started methadone mmt, you can't get over 40mg on the 1st day by law, so my doctor said I'll raise it to 55mg in a couple days. 40mg was holding me fine, when I got the raise to 55mg, I started to feel sleepy all day also, I leterally slept 14-16 hours a day. So I talked to the dr. And told him that, he said your dose is too high, so he put me back on 40mg, and that's when I started to feel normal again. That was 2 1/2 years ago. I relapsed twice during that time, now I'm on 80mg daily, and im stable now all 24 hours.
onetwonine
Bluelighter
I was sleeping excessively till my taper brought me below 30mgs and completely stopped the use of other opioids.
I had been on 65mg for probably 9 months. Most of which I was using heavily on top of my mmt.
Its just what methadone does to me I think.
I had been on 65mg for probably 9 months. Most of which I was using heavily on top of my mmt.
Its just what methadone does to me I think.
Methacodone
Bluelighter
Yes, you're right. Everyone's body chemistry is different, and methadone can be a life saver for someone, or a killer for someone else.
Yes, I was like you in the beginning when I started MMT. I was on 40mg, and it was holding me fine. But the cravings part got to me, and just 3 months in MMT I relapsed back on smoking black tar heroin and eating oxycodone.
When your on MMT, and relapse, your tolerance rises like CRAZY. I went in a month later (back to mmt), and signed up again, the maximum dose is 40mg on the 1st day, by law. After that, you can see the doctor for a dose raise/or lower your dose.
But man, when I relapsed, my methadone dose DOUBLED to keep me stable for the day. Ever since then, I never relapsed. Now im on 80mg, just because of that one relapse. Now I know for sure if I relapse AGAIN, I would need 120mg of methadone to be stable, so fuck that. I'm staying away from the devil heroin, and other RX illicit drugs (Oxycodone, Morphine, opana, dilaudid, etc.)
Yes, I was like you in the beginning when I started MMT. I was on 40mg, and it was holding me fine. But the cravings part got to me, and just 3 months in MMT I relapsed back on smoking black tar heroin and eating oxycodone.
When your on MMT, and relapse, your tolerance rises like CRAZY. I went in a month later (back to mmt), and signed up again, the maximum dose is 40mg on the 1st day, by law. After that, you can see the doctor for a dose raise/or lower your dose.
But man, when I relapsed, my methadone dose DOUBLED to keep me stable for the day. Ever since then, I never relapsed. Now im on 80mg, just because of that one relapse. Now I know for sure if I relapse AGAIN, I would need 120mg of methadone to be stable, so fuck that. I'm staying away from the devil heroin, and other RX illicit drugs (Oxycodone, Morphine, opana, dilaudid, etc.)
Methacodone
Bluelighter
rayssjr,
25 days? Wow, congrats man!
What drugs were you using?
I'm asking because im currently trying to get out of the drug world and become sober.
I'm currently on MMT, taking 80mg daily for my past 6 year Hydrocodone/Oxycodone/Heroin addiction. I took pills orally, and smoked the black tar heroin. I was never a IV user. But people say, smoking heroin W/d is just as bad as IV'ing it. I totally believe it, I honestly couldn't handle 30 minutes of H W/d, the shit is SO intense. My legs would literally flap like jello, in A LOT of pain (RLS), puking, diareah, depression, anxiety, the whole 9 yards of a hardcore opiate w/d. I had no choice but to go on methadone, or I would've literally committed suicide with H W/d. WAY too intense. too much pain, physically, AND phsycologically.
I can honestly say, methadone saved my life.
Of course, every drug has their ups and downs, the up of methadone is keeping you away from other illegal or illicit drugs, but the down part is getting off the methadone.
I know methadone W/d is even more uncomfortable than H w/d, but not as intense, but lasts way longer to make it harder to stop. But I have an AWESOME methadone doctor who actually cares FOR ME. Most people say on internet forums, their doctors try to keep them their for a longer period of time for more money, but not my doctor, anytime he sees me, he asks me if im ready to taper down yet, im currently NOT ready yet, because im currently tapering off benzos. I used Xanax and Valium for 7+ months straight, everyday. Alone, Xanax dose range would be 6-10mg daily, Valium 80-120mg daily. When combined, I would use 4-6mg Xanax and 40-60mg of valium, so now im medically tapering off with Klonopin. Going down 1/2mg every 2 weeks. I started on 6mg daily, now im on 4mg daily. its working wonders so far.
If you do it right, you WILL do it. But if you go to fast, your pushing too hard for a relapse, I learned my lesson BIG time.
When im done with my benzo taper (few months), im going to start tapering methadone.
My doctor recommended going down 1-2mg per week, he said that's the safest way, and you're w/d will be very easy when your dose is low. or even off it completely.
But my plan is, to get down to 30mg and switch to Subutex.
Because I heard from MANY people, that's the best way to get off hardcore opiates like methadone, is using suboxone or subutex.
25 days? Wow, congrats man!
What drugs were you using?
I'm asking because im currently trying to get out of the drug world and become sober.
I'm currently on MMT, taking 80mg daily for my past 6 year Hydrocodone/Oxycodone/Heroin addiction. I took pills orally, and smoked the black tar heroin. I was never a IV user. But people say, smoking heroin W/d is just as bad as IV'ing it. I totally believe it, I honestly couldn't handle 30 minutes of H W/d, the shit is SO intense. My legs would literally flap like jello, in A LOT of pain (RLS), puking, diareah, depression, anxiety, the whole 9 yards of a hardcore opiate w/d. I had no choice but to go on methadone, or I would've literally committed suicide with H W/d. WAY too intense. too much pain, physically, AND phsycologically.
I can honestly say, methadone saved my life.
Of course, every drug has their ups and downs, the up of methadone is keeping you away from other illegal or illicit drugs, but the down part is getting off the methadone.
I know methadone W/d is even more uncomfortable than H w/d, but not as intense, but lasts way longer to make it harder to stop. But I have an AWESOME methadone doctor who actually cares FOR ME. Most people say on internet forums, their doctors try to keep them their for a longer period of time for more money, but not my doctor, anytime he sees me, he asks me if im ready to taper down yet, im currently NOT ready yet, because im currently tapering off benzos. I used Xanax and Valium for 7+ months straight, everyday. Alone, Xanax dose range would be 6-10mg daily, Valium 80-120mg daily. When combined, I would use 4-6mg Xanax and 40-60mg of valium, so now im medically tapering off with Klonopin. Going down 1/2mg every 2 weeks. I started on 6mg daily, now im on 4mg daily. its working wonders so far.
If you do it right, you WILL do it. But if you go to fast, your pushing too hard for a relapse, I learned my lesson BIG time.
When im done with my benzo taper (few months), im going to start tapering methadone.
My doctor recommended going down 1-2mg per week, he said that's the safest way, and you're w/d will be very easy when your dose is low. or even off it completely.
But my plan is, to get down to 30mg and switch to Subutex.
Because I heard from MANY people, that's the best way to get off hardcore opiates like methadone, is using suboxone or subutex.
Well i did subs for 2 years,and never got a stretch of this many days in that timeriod, ever. Always sold my scrip, just a few a day so i could still get high everyday and us my wifes piss . I was on heroin for ten years, iv for 3 years, and a ton of other things. Its definitlety a life saver for me, it took about 2 months for me to get on my right dose until I finally stopped using in last week I got my first random that was completely clean so thats good for me i want some takehomes! Ps, i got those pics of my dads friends bottle, forgive me its 540 mg a day id like to post the pic of the bottle to show u but do not kno w how.....help anyone
Methacodone
Bluelighter
Wait, you're on 540mg of methadone? Holy shit bro.
I thought my dose was high at 80mg.
You don't need to post a picture to PROVE it to anyone, nobody knows anyone here, its the internet. If you're lying or not, I Believe you. Because there's no reason for someone to lie about being on a high dose of 'done, I mean kids would do that and think they're cool. lol.
But I Believe you man, but getting off that high of a dose, can take a VERY long time, like I said im on 80mg. But I take the pills, my clinic has the cherry red liquid methadone 10mg/1ml, 40mg wafers, and 10mg pills. I'm on 80mg. I'm supposed to get 2 40mg wafers, but I Requested from the doctor and nurse to do a half and half dose, 1 40mg wafer, and 4 10mg pills, the reason for this is because the wafers are WAY to chalky, and is harder to swallow. The 10mg pills are tiny, and doesn't have as much chalk. That's the reason for my half and half dose.
I thought my dose was high at 80mg.
You don't need to post a picture to PROVE it to anyone, nobody knows anyone here, its the internet. If you're lying or not, I Believe you. Because there's no reason for someone to lie about being on a high dose of 'done, I mean kids would do that and think they're cool. lol.
But I Believe you man, but getting off that high of a dose, can take a VERY long time, like I said im on 80mg. But I take the pills, my clinic has the cherry red liquid methadone 10mg/1ml, 40mg wafers, and 10mg pills. I'm on 80mg. I'm supposed to get 2 40mg wafers, but I Requested from the doctor and nurse to do a half and half dose, 1 40mg wafer, and 4 10mg pills, the reason for this is because the wafers are WAY to chalky, and is harder to swallow. The 10mg pills are tiny, and doesn't have as much chalk. That's the reason for my half and half dose.
no I'm on 80 milligrams and I'm aware of everything that it will take to get off of it if I decide to get off of it. Now when I was saying was in my earlier posts talking about my friends parents that are on it for pain management and no one believes me that they're dose was around 600 milligrams for one and 400 for the other so I have the pictures to prove it because one person said I was missing formed one person said I was lying the other one said I was a complete bull s****** so I needed to come up with you pictures just to show everybody what I'm talking about I will post them soon as in the next 10 minutes
David Wooderson
Bluelighter
I was on 240, I was a damn zombie. Granted there was a point where I wasn't nodding all day but I was HIGH.%)
Even if I didn't feel it, I was still making judgements I would only make if I was high.
How much do these parents weigh, and are they constantly breaking toilets?
Their doctor is worthy of heavy metal ballads.
Can you imagine taking a shit on 600mg's of methadone?
Even if I didn't feel it, I was still making judgements I would only make if I was high.
How much do these parents weigh, and are they constantly breaking toilets?
Their doctor is worthy of heavy metal ballads.
Can you imagine taking a shit on 600mg's of methadone?
Methacodone
Bluelighter
pica don't show, for me.
ok, I thought you meant YOU were on 540mg, thank god you're not man. a dose that high, I will guarantee anybody on that high of a dose will never get off methadone. It will take a lifetime to do it right anyway, 1-2mg a week. That's doing it safely to not cause severe w/d from the methadone once you reach 5mg and below.
ok, I thought you meant YOU were on 540mg, thank god you're not man. a dose that high, I will guarantee anybody on that high of a dose will never get off methadone. It will take a lifetime to do it right anyway, 1-2mg a week. That's doing it safely to not cause severe w/d from the methadone once you reach 5mg and below.
David Wooderson
Bluelighter
I'll chime in to say that many people who are not intentionally lying get dose strengths mixed up all the time, and seeing in that these people probably are some of the highest prescribed meth patients in the country, I was surprised. I'll go as far to say that you probably would never get that amount in a clinic. I would also bet money on the fact that they most likely shit every other week on the reg.
Methacodone
Bluelighter
To the OP.
Methadone saved my life. I was an opiate addict for 7 years before I started 'done.
3 years of Hydrocodone 80-120mg/daily, 3 years of Oxycodone 120-200mg/daily, both taken orally, and sometimes smoked the oxy. After those 6 years, pills were getting expensive every fucking year, I couldn't afford that habit anymore, so I was introduced to the devil named HEROIN. I smoked Black tar heroin for over a year, 1/2 gram a day. After I hit rock bottom, lost everything, I finally commited to my family I was an addict and need help, I was literally about to kill myself, with that INTENSE heroin W/d. It was a nightmare in reality. My parents rushed me to the hospital cuz I was shaking, puking, crying, anxiety, pain, RLS, insomnia, the whole 9 yards of an opiate w/d. The doctor at the hospital told my parents, the only thing that will save your son is 2 things, Rehab, or MMT. My family isn't rich, and can't afford to pay a rehab $15,000-$20,000 every month. So my parents took me to MMT.
Ever since I got on methadone, I started to live a normal life again, no more stealing, lying, etc. to my parents.
METHADONE SAVED MY LIFE-
-Methacodone.
Methadone saved my life. I was an opiate addict for 7 years before I started 'done.
3 years of Hydrocodone 80-120mg/daily, 3 years of Oxycodone 120-200mg/daily, both taken orally, and sometimes smoked the oxy. After those 6 years, pills were getting expensive every fucking year, I couldn't afford that habit anymore, so I was introduced to the devil named HEROIN. I smoked Black tar heroin for over a year, 1/2 gram a day. After I hit rock bottom, lost everything, I finally commited to my family I was an addict and need help, I was literally about to kill myself, with that INTENSE heroin W/d. It was a nightmare in reality. My parents rushed me to the hospital cuz I was shaking, puking, crying, anxiety, pain, RLS, insomnia, the whole 9 yards of an opiate w/d. The doctor at the hospital told my parents, the only thing that will save your son is 2 things, Rehab, or MMT. My family isn't rich, and can't afford to pay a rehab $15,000-$20,000 every month. So my parents took me to MMT.
Ever since I got on methadone, I started to live a normal life again, no more stealing, lying, etc. to my parents.
METHADONE SAVED MY LIFE-
-Methacodone.