16th issue General Heroin Discussion v hit it raw or bag it up?

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Got six tester bahs from a dude who gave me his number when i was out gettin shit from my boy in the hood. Shit is fire and he generously gave me 6 tester bags, its always a great day when you get free dope. Also when i woke up today i found a bag in my room when i thought i had none left.
 
^That's fucking awesome though! Was it good shit? How long do you think it was there for? /you must have been doing a lot of shit when you lost it, because unless I was on a major run, I wouldn't forget about a bundle! I almost always know how much dope I have left at any given time....
 
^That's fucking awesome though! Was it good shit? How long do you think it was there for? /you must have been doing a lot of shit when you lost it, because unless I was on a major run, I wouldn't forget about a bundle! I almost always know how much dope I have left at any given time....

Ain't that the truth it's like you have each pack timed out when you will do it.
 
When I copped bundles I'd sometimes take a bag out and hide it in my room. It's a good idea if you have problems saving dope.
 
there's another "how does BTH compare to ECP" question...

first off, I'm notorious around here for sticking up for and praising the Industrial Midwest's BTH. I've lived in Boston and spent many stints all around the NYC/NJ area, then up and down the Eastern Seaboard (thanks to being a semi-pro musician ;))

ECP is def good shit, when you get that FIRE. but due to the nature of street copping like on the East Coast (and even Chi), I've gotten burned once or twice, mediocre product a couple times, and same damn fine ECP at other times (specially when I could establish myself as I did when I lived in Boston for a bit)...

however this BTH here is balls to the walls amazing, and I wouldn't trade a G of ECP for a 3/4 of a G of this BTH...

also, I noticed unlike the BTH that looks like a sloppy mess in the South (NC + Tenn, etc) and the Midwest (Oklahoma, Texas) and even Cali - this stuff just looks so much more clean

and here is something that I have not seen written down here concerning BTH. if you get the BTH here without it being passed through so many hands (ie: cut), then your BTH actually looks and has the consistency of powder. it's strange. it will be all powdery, until you start moving around the product with anything but a knife or utensil, and use your hand. then it starts to tar up like normal BTH. also, breathing on the product heavily or leaving the product in a bag that was not sealed will also tar up this BTH to that normal, stereotypical, look and feel...

so any other BLers cop BTH like that? it's been like that for a couple years here now, and when the BTH starts off in your hand as that light brown powder then the guy is usually happy because it means that the product is fire. strange, huh?

I have a feeling this is the main reason as to why I think my area's BTH is so much superior than that other messy, soupy, junky BTH that is normally thought of...



here's a pic, not really the best pic because the baggy was a weird, heavy and translucent blue. but this pic serves a good purpose in showing how this BTH looks nothing like the normal BTH out there. most would just assume this is a baggy of ECP:

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and here is a pic illustrating the two different physical make-ups of this BTH. on the left and on the little piece of paper is the same BTH but I breathed heavily on it to tar it up. and on the right is a knife point's worth of some BTH right outta the bag. notice the huge difference?

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^That's fucking awesome though! Was it good shit? How long do you think it was there for? /you must have been doing a lot of shit when you lost it, because unless I was on a major run, I wouldn't forget about a bundle! I almost always know how much dope I have left at any given time....

Yeah I was on a pretty heavy run. I had a lot of money so I was doing a couple bundles a day and buying 5 or 6 at a time. From the stamp, it was probably only there for a week or so. Not the first time it happened either. You just get really blasted and drop shit, then nod off and forget about it ever happening, hah.
 
^Yeah when you're goin hard like that and doin 5-10 bag shots with coke when you're already high, it's possible to misplace a bundle! I actually found one in my car once! and here I was scared to death of being pulled over and making sure I didn't leave anything in there...went to clean out all the cups and bags that accumulated over a month or so and...boom! A bundle falls out from the edge of the seat. I had copped 2 bricks and stopped and shot 8 bags and my girlfriend did 4 so I think I mustve lost track of the second bundle I broke into or something...

The way I used to do dope with my girlfriend and my friend, we'd just put all the dope and coke right on the table and grab what we needed over the course of the night, so nobody really knew how much was left. We'd pretty much just yell out, "Hey I'm doin 3 of these, there's about 3 bundles left" kind of thing... Sometimes I'd mix up a few bags and put it in a rig for the morning and forget about it and find it a few days later, that was actually more common for me than losing bags....not a good idea to shoot it after that long, but if I'm sick...well we all know what happens in that case!
 
I really am not sure how long I can sustain this, but I have found alot of success with loperamide in terms of reducing my dope intake.

I admit to still 'rippin and runnin' on the weekends, but during the week, I take loperamide. I have found myself taking over 100mg in 24 hours before. Generally it takes well over 100mg for me to feel CNS activity and a dirty loperamide high, that is very sloppy and sedative.

I generally take something like 40-50mg before bed, and I never wake up sick. In the morning depending on how I feel, I might redose anywhere between 5mg to 50mg in the morning.
This stuff either blocks other opiates or increases tolerance or both, because I need alot more dope to feel my shots.

However, I feel very stable and dope is becoming less and less enjoyable. I have definitely cut back my consumption a lot. It almost seems like loperamide is simiilar to methadone in that manner. I don't really feel like I am on an opiate unless I smoke some weed.

Be careful taking that much loperamide. There was a thread a month or so ago in the Other Drugs in which some guy was praising the ability of loperamide to help with detoxing off of opiates/opioids. Then a week later he came back to the thread to warn everybody about using high doses of lope because he ended up in the ER with fecal impaction. I forgot what dose he was using, but I think it was under 100, so be careful.
 
So, now you guys know what's going on the next time you give birth to an opi-shit.
You know, the type of poopie that takes the force of 12 strongmen to burst out of the bowel cavity.
Yeah, sucks.
 
Random enough ive had tar a few times here, i think just bc demand is so high it will sell no matter where and ppl want to make money. But its been soft and kind of gummy and the other time it was rock hard and the shot was totally black and i couldnt even see blood register, so i added heat the next time and all the black dissipated and the shot was yellow. Weirdest thing ever. It looked like black slate. Give me a ten gram pellet of ecp anyday...tho i wouldnt be choosy over equally blaze tar. Also it seems like ecp is easier on the veins, but also i havnt banged tar on a daily basis, just powder.
 
got some blank red bags earlier tonight around 8pm, did 3 right away as usual and felt like I could take it up another notch so I did 2 more about 20 mins later

now im quasi-coherent and dipping in and out of conscious thoughts in front of my computer

what's up with everyone else though? anyone get any "wtf happened last night?" highs recently? feeling like that might pop in my head tomorrow morning tbh

@ tar vs ecp argument: totally biased here but Im with you medicine cabinet, ive only had tar once so obviously I can't really formulate an opinion off such a small sample size but it is infinitesimally more annoying to snort and just looks like complete shit. It got me high, but I just kept pining for ECP the entire time

my brother is more or less a complete alcoholic now, my grandmother is slowly (not even slowly anymore, the past 2 months have brought noticeable changes for the worse) but surely succumbing to dementia, my dad is constantly bitching at my brother about drinking and therefore everyone in my house more or less has a problem with each other, I told my Mom that I have been doing heroin on and off for a while now almost 2 months ago as well and now she is texting me sporadically asking me if everything is ok and if I need suboxone or not (not really a negative now that think about it, my Mom is actually really fucking cool), lawyers are still expensive as fuck, I lucked out over the fact that heroin shows up as morphine on blood tests, one of my few remaining friends got hit by a car on purpose right out front of his house (fortunately he only broke his foot, but he's not gonna be able to walk on his own for almost 4 months, and due to his opiate habit the Perc 10s they give him dont really do a whole lot so he winds up selling half of em to buy dope, and now that I think about it, I know a couple of people who do that, Ive been putting off reformatting my computer for over 2 months now because whenever I have spare time I just get fucked up and dont feel like doing it

and even with all that, I still do everything in my power to acquire this shit. as sad as this sounds, I almost take balancing getting high with real life as a personal challenge, and while I may not be getting a Gold Medal for it right now, I feel like I would at least be on the podium. I still fucking kill it at my average job, I still try to see my Grandparents a lot, I still don't drink alcohol very much at all, and I still am forklift certified for the next 3 years so I need to get my ass back in a warehouse job, there's certainly enough warehouses up and down the Northeast coast, I'll still fix your computer in my sleep if I feel like I could acquire bags either directly or indirectly for doing so, and I still post highly narcissistic paragraphs over shit most respectable people wouldnt even think to gloat about

man im a douchebag
 
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