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1600 mg tramadol per day

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K'd-OUT-in-AZ said:
If you need 120mg of oxycodone to get high then you won't get high from tramadol. 400mg is the maximum daily dose and you shouldn't exceed it because risk of seizure. The OP is taking a lot of anti-seizure medications so that's why he isn't experiencing one. So you can try 400mg but I have doubts you will feel anything. The buzz is different than oxycodone/hydrocodone.
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Thanks mane i appreciate it. definitely not worth my while then. I have access to a shit ton. maybe save for a comedown...
 
Not dead. No tram. Black coffee. Next trick is to tapper the benzos. Not sure if that will be just as painful with a taper. Does "pain of cold turkey'ing massive tram habit" = "pain of slow diazepam taper". I'll find out.

Only issue with cold turkey tram is massive bipolar effects (SSRI wd) but they are dampening. Or maybe I'm posting thing from a mental institution right now. You'll never know.

I'm aware I have to taper the diazepam or else I'll be Mr seizure guy. Can a person just stand up shake off a seizure or does it require medical attention and/or me dying? Dying by seizure is not an option. I need to die fighting a bear when I'm 70. Or maybe I will kill the bear? I give myself 1 in 3 odds.
 
fucks sake, i cant even imagine how bad withdrawal from all that would be like. tramadol or pregabalin withdrawals alone are brutal. its a good thing youre not doing it all at once.

the tramadol seizure thing may be a myth. i would do some research into that.
 
that special k story had me geekin out. im stoned as hell but yea man itll be rough but u got it. i would taper a little just to keep it in the system, maybe normal doses, or pick 1 out of the 4 of your max seizure doses and do it. all the people ive seen have seizures they had med attention but walked away. good luck to you bro, your my inspiration! lol
cw
 
im surprised you're not having siezures and convulsions at 1600mgs of tramadol. thats very dangerous, you shouldn't fuck around with that shit man. I would go to a doctor and have him taper me down because that's pretty serious. good luck man. i would just focus on getting off the tramadol and then do the pregabalin because nothing good will come from doing them both at once. it just makes the risks higher.
 
PoppyLlama said:
im surprised you're not having siezures and convulsions at 1600mgs of tramadol. thats very dangerous, you shouldn't fuck around with that shit man. I would go to a doctor and have him taper me down because that's pretty serious. good luck man. i would just focus on getting off the tramadol and then do the pregabalin because nothing good will come from doing them both at once. it just makes the risks higher.
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He isn't suffering seizures from 1600mg of Tramadol specifically because he is taking the pregabalin.
 
I'm surprised I wasn't having siezures and convulsions at 1600mgs of tramadol. Maybe it was the anti-seizure meds?

I'm OFF tram. Now just need to actually worry about seizures while coming off the benzos. Long half life (ala valium) taper is safest I read.
 
aallaann said:
I'm surprised I wasn't having siezures and convulsions at 1600mgs of tramadol. Maybe it was the anti-seizure meds?

I'm OFF tram. Now just need to actually worry about seizures while coming off the benzos. Long half life (ala valium) taper is safest I read.
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Yes, diazepam taper is the best way to do it. Find the equivalence of your benzodiazepine, switch onto it and then decrease by 5-10mg every 2-4 weeks (you could even do it every week if your addiction isn't so severe) I did a slow taper 10mg every 4 weeks.
 
I've been off the tram for almost month. I phased out of the pregabalin and gabapentin to just benzos. I've been eating a lot of clonazepam, I'm saving my remaining diazepam for the end taper. I would not say that my overall "gaba" drug intake has gone up though since I'm just substituting the kpins for what used to be mass amounts of pregabalin. I used to keep a spreadsheet to track my benzo load (calculating the amount in my system based on the benzo's half life) but I stopped tracking about a year ago when I went into full addict mode. I plan to use the spreadsheet to manage my benzo taper.

So I've consolidated my intake to just benzos (and mass caffeine). I'm starting to feel like I'm finally hitting a comfort equilibrium so I'm thinking about pulling out the old spreadsheet and plotting the taper. Should I assume the tram/pregab wd is over and start the benzo taper or give it more time?
 
Update: still well off the tram and happy about that but substituting diazepam for pregabalin does not seem to be effective. That is to say that while finding an equiv dose of diazepam for clonazepam intake, switching to exclusively diazepam and then doing a proper taper (Ashton or such) seems to work in my experience. This does not seem to be so with pregabalin / gabapentin to diazepam. Even going up to double / triple my diazepam dose did not prevent pregabalin / gabapentin wd. It might prevent me from having seizures but I'm still experiencing insomnia, anxiety, etc. as I wd. Looks like I'll have to creatively taper both - going to try to taper gaba until stable then start the diaz taper. Such hard work to undo this messy habit.
 
From what I've read...now correct me if I'm wrong...is that Tram only causes seizures at over 400mg IN THOSE WHO ARE EPILEPTIC or who are PRONE TO SEIZURES.



Out of curiosity --- out of all of the wonderful opiates in existence, why OH WHY did you choose Tram? Just have access to a lot of it or what? Tram is about the bottom of the opiate ladder....right there beneath codeine and weak poppy seed tea. :)
 
K'd-OUT-in-AZ said:
You...can't....seizure...from...Tramadol...withdrawals.

No...action...at...GABA...receptors.
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Is this true? my dog has some seriouse problems and was prescribed two 200MG doses a day.. Im seriously worried about him being on a dirrivetive of morphine. Because im worried about him having withdrawls, siezures, and anythign else that could happen??..
 
Poppa'_$murfxXx said:
Is this true? my dog has some seriouse problems and was prescribed two 200MG doses a day.. Im seriously worried about him being on a dirrivetive of morphine. Because im worried about him having withdrawls, siezures, and anythign else that could happen??..
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Nah....should do your dog right - just don't let him drive.
 
I’ve never had a seizure despite using the drug in drastic excess of it recommended daily dose. Please note that I had never experienced a seizure prior to using (read abusing) the drug. And, the most important note, I was taking anti-seizure medication while using tramadol. I never put myself in a position where I was over the rec dose and not on something that would prevent a seizure. Just harm reduction. Unfortunately valium is harder to come off than tramadol – so…know your enemies. The worst part is that I have a hard time on only valium without the pregabalin. I’m waiting for my city to install a pregabalin dispensing machine outside my house. The ironic part of all this is that I’m messing with so many anti-seizure medications now that I will most likely have a seizure trying to come off my current intake. I’m hoping I have one of those "absence seizures" and not a grand mal. More civil that way. Less scandalous.
 
i like this aallaann person. or maybe i'm just glad its friday. either way grats on cutting out the tram, and good luck with the gaba stuff.

If you're really worried about seizures, ask a (knowledgeable) doctor about a controlled taper plan

also, K'd-out, I like the kids of the k-hole quote
 
That is what I assumed but I'm going to try to taper the benzo dose over time as opposed to what I did with the tramadol. According to the "doctors" I should experience only mild wd with a slow taper. We shall see.
 
man u sound like me i use to take like 25 50mg pills of tramadoland a bunch of lyrica to like up to 2 grams at a time, i never did any benzos tho but i no what its like man the withdrawls suck balls and i narely died, i went into a catonic state vegetable looking it was awful i would usually take 5-6 300mg of the big red ones 5 times a day good luck bro have a save detox im on subxone 4mg a day i underdose and lyrica 225mg a day
 
one word...SEIZURE. don't question why you are not having them. you are putting yourself in real danger taking that insanely high dose.way too much. trust me. I've had a seizure on tramadol and on welbutrin. not all warnings on medication should be ignored. you don't want to have a seizure. IT SUCKS!

Be safe and stay safe.......................skillz<3
 
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