16 and first time use

[IHeartWeed]

Just turned 16 and I've been wanting to try MDMA for a while now.

First of all, I will be getting this in a pill form; I think green apples or something.
I will probably be snorting or rubbing on gums, definitely not swallowing since their is so much bullshit on the street now days.

There is a few things I'm worried about though :/
hopefully you can answer my questions and give some advice

1. Laced with bad shit
This is probably what I'm worried about the most even though I haven't heard of anyone getting sick around my area.
I don't have a test kit, I can't buy one either because I'm only 16. I'm scared of getting PMA/PMMA in any of the pills I get because I've searched around and heard that shits in some.
Quite a fair bit of people in my school and other schools do ecstasy and I haven't heard anything bad happening from it besides that there is heroin in some pills, but still worried it might be laced.
A mate of mine had brown hearts and he said he had a great time, some I'm assuming that's not PMA/PMMA , lol.

2. Rapid Heart beat or over heating
Seen on a few sites that people have died of overheating/under-heating or too much water and then some sites also say that people have died from an overdose and hearts beating too fast.
How much water should I drink?
How to keep myself a good temperature? (Im in australia so its fairly hot about now, sometimes 45+)
Can you get too cold or is it only over heating?

3. Dosage and checking if pills are clean without tests...
How much dosage do I have the first time?
I was thinking 1/4 of the pill first time to check if its clean but I don't know thats why I'm asking.
I might be doing this with someone who has done it before so they can see if the pills good.

Is there anything I need to have a good time?

Thanks in advance

 

[AnonymousAbuser]

I will probably be snorting or rubbing on gums, definitely not swallowing since their is so much bullshit on the street now days.

What would that be any better? It's going into your bloodstream either way.

I don't have a test kit, I can't buy one either because I'm only 16.

This is one of many reasons why you should wait until you're older to use MDMA. YOU know there are bad substances going around so YOU need to be responsible and not take any untested pills.

Get some cash, buy a prepaid visa giftcard, order a test kit(to a friends house if you have to).

 

[Section813]

Your mind, personality, and internal chemistry have not had the time to properly develop. Wait until you are older.

 

[Prettylights____]

This is one of many reasons why you should wait until you're older to use MDMA. YOU know there are bad substances going around so YOU need to be responsible and not take any untested pills.

Get some cash, buy a prepaid visa giftcard, order a test kit(to a friends house if you have to).

^^^
This.

I know it's not what you want to hear but it's true. The first risk you take can be your last one if you don't do this properly, especially of you know PMA/PMMA is in circulation where you're located. I know it is very common for young people to just say "fuck it" and take whatever's available, but as I'm sure you've read people have only died from untested shit, don't do it.

If you're that anxious to try it use that as your motivation to obtain all you need to do it properly. If you're using the excuse you're too young to get a test kit, than you're too young to be doing drugs, period.

And because you're so young, if you take some shady shit when your development is far from done you run too large of a risk at permanently damaging yourself. It's not worth it man.

 

[bennyZA]

Honestly, you wanna save the first MDMA experience for when you can better appreciate it. When you're both older, and more experienced. The first time rolling is just so unreal, so magical, that it is a waste if you're just going to be anxious the whole time.

 

[Clocktower]

Wait a few more years before you start taking drugs. At your age, your brain is developing very rapidly, and you don't want to introduce strange chemicals (especially strange neurotoxic chemicals) that can upset that process. When your body is grown you can take drugs safely, but taking them now is really reckless and might have permanent consequences.

green apples

If you do go through with this you REALLY need to get a test kit, green apples have been notorious for containing PMA the last couple of years.
http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=31663

 

[Mendo_K]

I first rolled when I was 19. Avoid pills with dark speckles in them. Avoid anything brown or red in general. If you can get pure Molly even better. Stick with White, Blue and purple and green pills with no dark spots on them. Drink plenty of water through the experience. Don't let it overwhelm you. If you find yourself losing control, go somewhere were you can relax and listen to music.

This guy deserves a retard medal, are you actually being serious?

 

[Prettylights____]

I first rolled when I was 19. Avoid pills with dark speckles in them. Avoid anything brown or red in general. If you can get pure Molly even better. Stick with White, Blue and purple and green pills with no dark spots on them. Drink plenty of water through the experience. Don't let it overwhelm you. If you find yourself losing control, go somewhere were you can relax and listen to music.

Go kill yourself.

Never in my life have I seen such stupid and inaccurate advice.

 

[4evrLkn]

Lol. Those specs will definitely kill you!

 

[cyberius]

You sound like a horribly irresponsible. I'm sorry, but you should not be doing drugs.

I'm 16 too and I had my first roll a day after my birthday, but unlike you, I did research and got reliable pills. For fucks sakes, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do lots of research before you decide to do this.

 

[bennyZA]

Anyone actually believe that he will listen?

His next few threads:
-Help! I'm so depressed
-Will I ever be the same again
-How much is too much
-I think I did too much mdma
-Been years since last mdma, still don't feel right
-mdma ruined my life

 

[Prettylights____]

Anyone actually believe that he will listen?

His next few threads:
-Help! I'm so depressed
-Will I ever be the same again
-How much is too much
-I think I did too much mdma
-Been years since last mdma, still don't feel right
-mdma ruined my life

Lmfao, awesome!

Funny, but so true it's sad.

 

[Mendo_K]

First time I tried MDMA was when I just turned 16, we bought some coke in Ibiza and he gave us some free pills. That night was the best of my life, my young virgin brain couldnt handle it.. too much fun! It all changed from there, from the next 5 nights I did MDMA every night in a row, I realised tolerance is a bitch.. and brain zaps and the comedown is hell.. though6 years later I am still at it.

I dont know the correct time to do MDMA, maybe 16 is a little young. Though im still a young buck and MDMA still is just as good as ever :D

 

[questforstarfish]

At least he has some inkling to be responsible before using. He may be young and of course he's inexperienced, but how is he supposed to learn unless he gets answers to the questions he's curious about?

OP:

I do agree that you are young, and your brain has not fully developed and so it more susceptible to damage from drug use. However, I doubt that strangers telling you online not to do drugs is going to change your mind, so let me answer your questions. I would then recommend exploring Bluelight extensively to see what other information you can learn!

1. Laced with bad shit

Firstly, you can not identify what is in a pill based on what was in the last similar-looking pill you saw. Drug manufactures re-use the same machines with the same shapes on them, so it is possible that a REALLY good green apple one week may be a terrible green apple the next week! Pillreports.com tries to record what pills were in what area when, and what they were like, so if you use no other resource for safety then at least look at Pillreports (look up your pill in your area, if there are recent reports about it you have a better chance of it being the same batch, if the only reports are more than a couple of months old or are from another part of the country, the report will be useless to you).
Manufacturers and dealers do not put heroin, LSD or cocaine in pills. They can make much, much more money just selling those drugs on their own and wouldn't waste it in MDMA. They may adulterate pills with smaller amounts of methamphetamine or caffeine for energy, and/or PMMA, methylone, and other drugs that elicit similar highs to MDMA. I had Ritalin in one of mine when I tested it. Here's the basic info on PMA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Para-Methoxymethamphetamine
PMA has a similar high to MDMA, except it often takes more to get you there, and it can dangerously elevate your body temperature.
I beg you to please, please get a test kit. You are completely chancing it without one, and could be putting anything into your body. Many people end up taking all kinds of shit and are fine, but there is a chunk of people who do end up dying. Why risk it? Buy a VISA gift card and go online to order a test kit. Mandelin test kits (bought from any supplier) will test for PMA, while Marquis tests test for other common adulterants. It comes in a brown unlabelled package, get it sent to your house or to a friend's if necessary. It might save you life one day.

2) If you are dancing, drink however much water you would drink if you were dancing sober. If not dancing, drink as much water as you normally would. Sips throughout the night. It's possible to overhydrate, which throws off the sodium balance in your body and can kill you, but only if you drink over a liter an hour of water, depending on your body size. MDMA doesn't dehydrate you, dancing does, so keep that in mind. As far as temperature goes, take breaks if you're dancing and don't roll in the day time if it's hot out. If you go outside when it is freeezing out, you can get too cold because your body has a harder time regulating your internal temperature, though I haven't heard of anyone dying from freezing on MDMA. Maybe if they went outside in the snow for hours on end without proper gear on, but that would happen if you were sober too!

3) About 100mg of MDMA is good for your first time. 1/4 of a pill probably won't do anything since you need to reach a certain threshold for it to work (have enough drug in your body to work...2 sips of alcohol isn't enough to make you drunk, either!) but it's good to keep the dose down your first few times. All pills have different concentrations and it's impossible to measure it, so try half of a pill to start. If, in just over an hour, you don't feel much, take the other half. Generally the come-up takes between half an hour and an hour to hit, so you will feel sober, then a little more relaxed and happy for a little while (for between 10 and 45 minutes from what I've experienced), and then BAM you'll feel amazing


Explore the forums. There are ideas for how to have extra fun while rolling, how to be safe, risks, tips, everything! Have fun and stay safe, my friend!


One other tip: The main consensus here is that it is not a good idea to roll more than one night in a row, take more than 2 or 3 pills a night depending on your size and tolerance, or roll more than once a month. Take these guidelines very seriously in the beginning and then when you are experienced you can decide what works for you (I'm experienced and still follow these, but once or twice I've been flexible with one of the rules). The most common mistake people make with MDMA is taking it too frequently or taking too much in a night, and that can result in anxiety problems and other issues. Best to stay away from those things altogether!

 

[Mazzab]

At least he has some inkling to be responsible before using. He may be young and of course he's inexperienced, but how is he supposed to learn unless he gets answers to the questions he's curious about?

OP:

I do agree that you are young, and your brain has not fully developed and so it more susceptible to damage from drug use. However, I doubt that strangers telling you online not to do drugs is going to change your mind, so let me answer your questions. I would then recommend exploring Bluelight extensively to see what other information you can learn!

1. Laced with bad shit

Firstly, you can not identify what is in a pill based on what was in the last similar-looking pill you saw. Drug manufactures re-use the same machines with the same shapes on them, so it is possible that a REALLY good green apple one week may be a terrible green apple the next week! Pillreports.com tries to record what pills were in what area when, and what they were like, so if you use no other resource for safety then at least look at Pillreports (look up your pill in your area, if there are recent reports about it you have a better chance of it being the same batch, if the only reports are more than a couple of months old or are from another part of the country, the report will be useless to you).
Manufacturers and dealers do not put heroin, LSD or cocaine in pills. They can make much, much more money just selling those drugs on their own and wouldn't waste it in MDMA. They may adulterate pills with smaller amounts of methamphetamine or caffeine for energy, and/or PMMA, methylone, and other drugs that elicit similar highs to MDMA. I had Ritalin in one of mine when I tested it. Here's the basic info on PMA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Para-Methoxymethamphetamine
PMA has a similar high to MDMA, except it often takes more to get you there, and it can dangerously elevate your body temperature.
I beg you to please, please get a test kit. You are completely chancing it without one, and could be putting anything into your body. Many people end up taking all kinds of shit and are fine, but a chunk of people who do end up dying. Why risk it? Buy a VISA gift card and go online to order a test kit. Mandelin test kits (bought from any supplier) will test for PMA, while Marquis tests test for other common adulterants. It comes in a brown unlabelled package, get it sent to your house or to a friend's if necessary. It might save you life one day.

2) If you are dancing, drink however much water you would drink if you were dancing sober. If not dancing, drink as much water as you normally would. Sips throughout the night. It's possible to overhydrate, which throws off the sodium balance in your body and can kill you, but only if you drink over a liter an hour of water, depending on your body size. MDMA doesn't dehydrate you, dancing does, so keep that in mind. As far as temperature goes, take breaks if you're dancing and don't roll in the day time if it's hot out. If you go outside when it is freeezing out, you can get to cold because your body has a harder time regulating your internal temperature, though I haven't heard of anyone dying from freezing on MDMA. Maybe if they went outside in the snow for hours on end without proper gear on, but that would happen if you were sober too!

3) About 100mg of MDMA is good for your first time. 1/4 of a pill probably won't do anything since you need to reach a certain threshold for it to work (have enough drug in your body to work...2 sips of alcohol isn't enough to make you drunk, either!) but it's good to keep the dose down your first few times. All pills have different concentrations and it's impossible to measure it, so try half of a pill to start. If, in just over an hour, you don't feel much, take the other half. Generally the come-up takes between half an hour and an hour to hit, so you will feel sober, then a little more relaxed and happy for a little while (for between 10 and 45 minutes from what I've experienced), and then BAM you'll feel amazing


Explore the forums. There are ideas for how to have extra fun while rolling, how to be safe, risks, tips, everything! Have fun and stay safe, my friend!


One other tip: The main consensus here is that it is not a good idea to roll more than one night in a row, take more than 2 or 3 pills a night depending on your size and tolerance, or roll more than once a month. Take these guidelines very seriously in the beginning and then when you are experienced you can decide what works for you (I'm experienced and still follow these, but once or twice I've been flexible with one of the rules). The most common mistake people make with MDMA is taking it too frequently or taking too much in a night, and that can result in anxiety problems and other issues. Best to stay away from those things altogether!

Well said

 

[IHeartWeed]

At least he has some inkling to be responsible before using. He may be young and of course he's inexperienced, but how is he supposed to learn unless he gets answers to the questions he's curious about?

OP:

I do agree that you are young, and your brain has not fully developed and so it more susceptible to damage from drug use. However, I doubt that strangers telling you online not to do drugs is going to change your mind, so let me answer your questions. I would then recommend exploring Bluelight extensively to see what other information you can learn!

1. Laced with bad shit

Firstly, you can not identify what is in a pill based on what was in the last similar-looking pill you saw. Drug manufactures re-use the same machines with the same shapes on them, so it is possible that a REALLY good green apple one week may be a terrible green apple the next week! Pillreports.com tries to record what pills were in what area when, and what they were like, so if you use no other resource for safety then at least look at Pillreports (look up your pill in your area, if there are recent reports about it you have a better chance of it being the same batch, if the only reports are more than a couple of months old or are from another part of the country, the report will be useless to you).
Manufacturers and dealers do not put heroin, LSD or cocaine in pills. They can make much, much more money just selling those drugs on their own and wouldn't waste it in MDMA. They may adulterate pills with smaller amounts of methamphetamine or caffeine for energy, and/or PMMA, methylone, and other drugs that elicit similar highs to MDMA. I had Ritalin in one of mine when I tested it. Here's the basic info on PMA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Para-Methoxymethamphetamine
PMA has a similar high to MDMA, except it often takes more to get you there, and it can dangerously elevate your body temperature.
I beg you to please, please get a test kit. You are completely chancing it without one, and could be putting anything into your body. Many people end up taking all kinds of shit and are fine, but there is a chunk of people who do end up dying. Why risk it? Buy a VISA gift card and go online to order a test kit. Mandelin test kits (bought from any supplier) will test for PMA, while Marquis tests test for other common adulterants. It comes in a brown unlabelled package, get it sent to your house or to a friend's if necessary. It might save you life one day.

2) If you are dancing, drink however much water you would drink if you were dancing sober. If not dancing, drink as much water as you normally would. Sips throughout the night. It's possible to overhydrate, which throws off the sodium balance in your body and can kill you, but only if you drink over a liter an hour of water, depending on your body size. MDMA doesn't dehydrate you, dancing does, so keep that in mind. As far as temperature goes, take breaks if you're dancing and don't roll in the day time if it's hot out. If you go outside when it is freeezing out, you can get too cold because your body has a harder time regulating your internal temperature, though I haven't heard of anyone dying from freezing on MDMA. Maybe if they went outside in the snow for hours on end without proper gear on, but that would happen if you were sober too!

3) About 100mg of MDMA is good for your first time. 1/4 of a pill probably won't do anything since you need to reach a certain threshold for it to work (have enough drug in your body to work...2 sips of alcohol isn't enough to make you drunk, either!) but it's good to keep the dose down your first few times. All pills have different concentrations and it's impossible to measure it, so try half of a pill to start. If, in just over an hour, you don't feel much, take the other half. Generally the come-up takes between half an hour and an hour to hit, so you will feel sober, then a little more relaxed and happy for a little while (for between 10 and 45 minutes from what I've experienced), and then BAM you'll feel amazing


Explore the forums. There are ideas for how to have extra fun while rolling, how to be safe, risks, tips, everything! Have fun and stay safe, my friend!


One other tip: The main consensus here is that it is not a good idea to roll more than one night in a row, take more than 2 or 3 pills a night depending on your size and tolerance, or roll more than once a month. Take these guidelines very seriously in the beginning and then when you are experienced you can decide what works for you (I'm experienced and still follow these, but once or twice I've been flexible with one of the rules). The most common mistake people make with MDMA is taking it too frequently or taking too much in a night, and that can result in anxiety problems and other issues. Best to stay away from those things altogether!

Thank you so much for answering all my questions
Thanks for caring so much and telling me to get a test kit
I'm going to buy one but I'm not sure which one at the moment
Thanks so much

 

[TheRapperGoneBad]

Test kit. Itss dangerous to roll with out testing product first.
Pill reports or edata are good places to see iff pills are clean or not.
Always pop mdma. Other ways feel like a waste to me.
Dose 1 pill once the above advice is followed.

I'd definitely wait that's so young man. Your gonna fuck your head up.
The above post has great advice. Always space rolls a month, 3 would be ideal. Md will turn on you if you abuse it.
The depressiom is not wrth it.

 

[questforstarfish]

My pleasure, glad I could help! I have to commend you for coming online and asking questions- that's a hell of a lot more than a lot of us have done before our first time and is a great way to stay safer when taking new substances!

Personally, I have the Mandelin kit from eztest.com, and the Marquis from dancesafe.org. It's more expensive initially at dancesafe, but you get like 50 uses out of one kit so in the long term it's a better deal. At eztest, each kit comes with 10 single-use vials so it costs less than dancesafe but you get less uses out of it. For a first-time user, unless you plan on taking M regularly and you have the extra cash, I would probably recommend just getting the eztest ones since you don't really need 50 uses, but it's up to you The kits may seem expensive at first (that was why I put off buying one for a while) but it's soo worth it to KNOW you're getting good MDMA, to know there's no PMA or something in it! Not only will you stay safer, you'll have the comfort of knowing that if you stick to moderate amounts of the drug and , you're likely going to be just fine, which can reduce your anxiety and make your night go even better!

And once again, good job looking into this stuff before doing it!!!

 

[TranceWarrior]

At least he has some inkling to be responsible before using. He may be young and of course he's inexperienced, but how is he supposed to learn unless he gets answers to the questions he's curious about?

OP:

I do agree that you are young, and your brain has not fully developed and so it more susceptible to damage from drug use. However, I doubt that strangers telling you online not to do drugs is going to change your mind, so let me answer your questions. I would then recommend exploring Bluelight extensively to see what other information you can learn!

1. Laced with bad shit

Firstly, you can not identify what is in a pill based on what was in the last similar-looking pill you saw. Drug manufactures re-use the same machines with the same shapes on them, so it is possible that a REALLY good green apple one week may be a terrible green apple the next week! Pillreports.com tries to record what pills were in what area when, and what they were like, so if you use no other resource for safety then at least look at Pillreports (look up your pill in your area, if there are recent reports about it you have a better chance of it being the same batch, if the only reports are more than a couple of months old or are from another part of the country, the report will be useless to you).
Manufacturers and dealers do not put heroin, LSD or cocaine in pills. They can make much, much more money just selling those drugs on their own and wouldn't waste it in MDMA. They may adulterate pills with smaller amounts of methamphetamine or caffeine for energy, and/or PMMA, methylone, and other drugs that elicit similar highs to MDMA. I had Ritalin in one of mine when I tested it. Here's the basic info on PMA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Para-Methoxymethamphetamine
PMA has a similar high to MDMA, except it often takes more to get you there, and it can dangerously elevate your body temperature.
I beg you to please, please get a test kit. You are completely chancing it without one, and could be putting anything into your body. Many people end up taking all kinds of shit and are fine, but there is a chunk of people who do end up dying. Why risk it? Buy a VISA gift card and go online to order a test kit. Mandelin test kits (bought from any supplier) will test for PMA, while Marquis tests test for other common adulterants. It comes in a brown unlabelled package, get it sent to your house or to a friend's if necessary. It might save you life one day.

2) If you are dancing, drink however much water you would drink if you were dancing sober. If not dancing, drink as much water as you normally would. Sips throughout the night. It's possible to overhydrate, which throws off the sodium balance in your body and can kill you, but only if you drink over a liter an hour of water, depending on your body size. MDMA doesn't dehydrate you, dancing does, so keep that in mind. As far as temperature goes, take breaks if you're dancing and don't roll in the day time if it's hot out. If you go outside when it is freeezing out, you can get too cold because your body has a harder time regulating your internal temperature, though I haven't heard of anyone dying from freezing on MDMA. Maybe if they went outside in the snow for hours on end without proper gear on, but that would happen if you were sober too!

3) About 100mg of MDMA is good for your first time. 1/4 of a pill probably won't do anything since you need to reach a certain threshold for it to work (have enough drug in your body to work...2 sips of alcohol isn't enough to make you drunk, either!) but it's good to keep the dose down your first few times. All pills have different concentrations and it's impossible to measure it, so try half of a pill to start. If, in just over an hour, you don't feel much, take the other half. Generally the come-up takes between half an hour and an hour to hit, so you will feel sober, then a little more relaxed and happy for a little while (for between 10 and 45 minutes from what I've experienced), and then BAM you'll feel amazing


Explore the forums. There are ideas for how to have extra fun while rolling, how to be safe, risks, tips, everything! Have fun and stay safe, my friend!


One other tip: The main consensus here is that it is not a good idea to roll more than one night in a row, take more than 2 or 3 pills a night depending on your size and tolerance, or roll more than once a month. Take these guidelines very seriously in the beginning and then when you are experienced you can decide what works for you (I'm experienced and still follow these, but once or twice I've been flexible with one of the rules). The most common mistake people make with MDMA is taking it too frequently or taking too much in a night, and that can result in anxiety problems and other issues. Best to stay away from those things altogether!

This is the correct response.

Bashing someone and telling them not to do something is not what these forums are for. "Just say no to drugs" ever work for anyone? It is about harm reduction, he is obviously sensible enough to look for help so let's help him. He will end up doing it with or with our help, the best we can do is help guide him to the proper way of using a substance.

OP
I think questforstarfish answered most of your questions so I will just touch base with you with some guidance:

I also agree 16 year's old is to young to experiment with chemical alternating substances, but if you choose to explore please do it properly and safe. This will allow you the correct and most satisfying experience.

Please order a test kit if you can't order to you're house, ask a friend maybe? tell them it's a x-mas present for someone =)

As I am sure you are well aware of already if you get you're hands on a stamped pill try to look it up:

http://www.pillreports.com/

http://www.ecstasydata.org/

If all these resources are no help for you or out of you're reach and you still decide to try whatever pill you might have available make sure you are in a comfortable environment with friend's that you "trust" and start with a half a pill to see how you feel, wait at least an hr before taking more depending on how much food you have in you're stomach.

(please do not sniff the pill or rub on gums this isn't cocaine) MDMA is best swallowed.

Also you might feel good regardless if it MDMA or not, so for you're first time regardless of how you feel stick to 1 pill.

most importantly have fun and be safe.

 

[augustaB]

Apart from saying wait until you're older which you are not going to do:

Colour appearance and smell don't mean a thing. The only safe way of checking if the pill, powder or crystal is any good is to use a test kit.
Water intake. Once glass of water an hour during the roll is enough. Make sure you are properly hydrated the day before the roll too.
Quarter pill: yes very advisable, especially as you don't know how you are going to react.
Other suggestions: roll in a safe place, like your own room or in your best friend's room.
Don't take more than one pill. Don't try and keep the roll going by taking more. Wait for two months before rolling again.
Finally you really are too young. Sorry Mate but that's the truth.