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white_russia12

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So let me start this buy saying Ive only smoked weed Some adderall and Pain killers.

keep in mind I had no tolerance at the time I took them.

It was our break inbetween 2nd and 3rd peroid and i had gotten 5 vicodin from a friend. I figured I would make it a fun 3rd by taking 3 5mg 325 ap Vicodin. I took them at the start of break and for the first 15 minuites I didn't feel anything. Then as class started I started to feel that warm sensation and that sinking feeling in your muscles as if your muscles have lost the strength to hold you firmly up and you feel your bones touch the seat more. As this continued I started to get that feeling as if Some one had muffled your hearing and you don't hear nearly as well. I had felt this before but it was only for a minuite or so. But this time I felt it much stronger and it just kept going and I started to feel very light headed and dizzy and my vision started to go black on the edges and I was breathing very deeply at the time I was terrifyed I thougth I was going to blackout. My body was very numb Mainly my upperbody and my feet felt like warm jello (which felt great but at the time I was so worried about blacking out that it wasn't so enjoyable). A female friend of mine looked back at me and said I looked Ill and said my face looked a paleish yellow and said I was just feeling alittle sick. I could feel it only leveling out as I was breathing in and out heavly not very understanding of what was going on around me. Just as I was about to ask if i could goto the bathroom which probally would have been a bad idea I felt it start to calm down and my hearing start to return to normal.


This was by far my best/worest and strongest experiance...which left me with a much greater respect for the drug. Has anyone else felt this off 15mg of hydro? Frankly I want to feel it agian but in a diffrent Enviorment.
 
Hi White Russia,

Back in the day when I was first experimenting with opiates (for those of you with a tolerance now - ::drool:: - you know what I mean), I recall having a pretty agonizing experience while I spinning at a club over here in CA. I don't recall the exact mg content of the vicodins, BUT, I only took TWO and at first things were cool, but about halfway through my set I got extremely overbourdened with the force of the hydro that hit me. I just eventually started feeling really sick and had to get off the decks unfortunately.

These days if I took 2 vic's... heh... might as well be Advil. Anyhow, trust me - if you don't have much of a tolerance or no tolerance at all with opiates, they can rock your world in good and bad ways, even at what may seem at small doses.

At least you weren't all slothered up in booze - that would have been REAL FUN.

Cheers! Hoss
 
white_russia12 said:
Frankly I want to feel it agian but in a diffrent Enviorment.
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Mind set, and your setting are key with any drug! Glad it turned out good for you in the end, but be more careful in the future.

Thanks for sharing.
 
i just took 2500mg of vicodin and i dont really feel a thing? but my tolerance is high for them i have taken up to 11200mg of vicodin 14 800mg pills at once that was a good night
 
^^ No, you have not, you have taken 11200 mg of tylenol, believe me if you did that you would have ODed on Tylenol, and If you really did I Suggest you go to the hosiptal right now, because your liver is shot. You should probably stop taking drugs because you are going to kill yourself, and seriously, if your little story is tru please go to the doctor immediately
 
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I know I keep saying this, but methionine is easily available and protects the body from APAP very well.
 
spawn6of69satan6 said:
i just took 2500mg of vicodin and i dont really feel a thing? but my tolerance is high for them i have taken up to 11200mg of vicodin 14 800mg pills at once that was a good night
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It is so common where I live for people to talk about vicodins this way. People refer to hydrocodone pills that contain 5mg Hydrocodone and 500mg of APAP as "500mg vicodins". It irritates the hell out of me, and when I point the fact out to them that its actually 5mg of hydrocodone and 500mg of tylenol, they dont care... Im just being too technical for them I guess. 8)
 
ok i know what i took i'am not dumb ass. i have been popping pills for as long as i can rememer dont tell me what i took and what i didnt take. i take at LEAST ten pills a time.
 
spawn6of69satan6 said:
ok i know what i took i'am not dumb ass. i have been popping pills for as long as i can rememer dont tell me what i took and what i didnt take. i take at LEAST ten pills a time.
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You take ten pills at a time. That means you are taking anywhere from 50mg of hydrocodone to 100 mg of hydrocodone, and anywhere from 3250 mg tylenol to 7500 mg of tylenol. Vicodin and other hydrocodone-containing pills also have tylenol in them, in far higher quantities.
 
Mr. spawnof69satanblahblahetc, please understand that if you're taking that many pills of Vicodin at a time, you're ingesting very large amounts of acetaminophen/APAP each time, which is very damaging to your liver. People who abuse them like this for years end up dying or having to have liver transplants because of it, but it's not because of the hydrocodone (the opiate ion Vicodin), it's because of the acetaminophen, which doesn't get you high in any way. Please consider doing cold water extractions on your Vicodin pills, or someday you will very much wish you had.

Hell, 11200mg of acetaminophen, like others said above, can literally cause liver failure. People have died from less than that at one time. If you were to tell a doctor that you had just taken that much, even if you had never done it before, they would consider it an emergency.

Honestly, I'm not making this up or exaggerating. You really need to research what you're putting into your body more, and begin extracting the hydrocodone from the pills with a cold water extraction. That way, you can take as much of it as you want, as often as you want (within reason of course) and you'll be able to remain healthy. If you continue on as you are doing, you will not remain healthy for long. That is not a scare tactic, it is simply a fact. :\
 
spawn, the pills you take -- do they say "5/500" or "10/325" on them? Cuz the first number is the hydrocodone. The second number is tylenol. So ten pills is between 50 and 100 mg of hydrocodone. Taking 2500 mg of hydrocodone would probably kill even such a "hardcore" drug user as yourself. And taking more than 4000 mg of tylenol in a single day can kill your liver. Then you're in for a real treat.

So yes, I'm going to tell you what you did and did not take. Because Superman himself would OD on either 2500 mg of hydrocodone, or 11000 mg of tylenol (APAP). Do be careful with taking the latter in large amounts. If you're going to pop a shitton of vicodin, do a cold water extraction on it to remove the APAP first. Easy to do, and much healthier!
 
Beenhead said:
Is it an after the fact thing? Or Preventative?
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BEst taken just before or with the APAP, but will offer some protection during/after...
 
white_russia12 said:
So let me start this buy saying Ive only smoked weed Some adderall and Pain killers.

keep in mind I had no tolerance at the time I took them.

It was our break inbetween 2nd and 3rd peroid and i had gotten 5 vicodin from a friend. I figured I would make it a fun 3rd by taking 3 5mg 325 ap Vicodin. I took them at the start of break and for the first 15 minuites I didn't feel anything. Then as class started I started to feel that warm sensation and that sinking feeling in your muscles as if your muscles have lost the strength to hold you firmly up and you feel your bones touch the seat more. As this continued I started to get that feeling as if Some one had muffled your hearing and you don't hear nearly as well. I had felt this before but it was only for a minuite or so. But this time I felt it much stronger and it just kept going and I started to feel very light headed and dizzy and my vision started to go black on the edges and I was breathing very deeply at the time I was terrifyed I thougth I was going to blackout. My body was very numb Mainly my upperbody and my feet felt like warm jello (which felt great but at the time I was so worried about blacking out that it wasn't so enjoyable). A female friend of mine looked back at me and said I looked Ill and said my face looked a paleish yellow and said I was just feeling alittle sick. I could feel it only leveling out as I was breathing in and out heavly not very understanding of what was going on around me. Just as I was about to ask if i could goto the bathroom which probally would have been a bad idea I felt it start to calm down and my hearing start to return to normal.


This was by far my best/worest and strongest experiance...which left me with a much greater respect for the drug. Has anyone else felt this off 15mg of hydro? Frankly I want to feel it agian but in a diffrent Enviorment.
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Sounds like you may have started feeling effects and had a severe vasovagal response due to freaking yourself out. Vicodin doesn't make you black out...a strong vasovagal response does though.
 
Maybe not so much a vasovagal response as it would be a panic attack. Unless they are the same thing. I'd fear losing control once a drug kicks in, esp. if you're in a classroom setting as opposed to being at home or with friends.
 
Hoss said:
Hi White Russia,

Back in the day when I was first experimenting with opiates (for those of you with a tolerance now - ::drool:: - you know what I mean.....

These days if I took 2 vic's... heh... might as well be Advil.
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oh man, do I ... I really miss that warm, fuzzy, slight stomach pain, wonderful feeling. so pleasureable.. I would get that with 10 mg of hydrocodone..

now - 15 - 20mg hydro at a time, barely scratches the surface... the "magic" is totally gone, but it was inevitable. I can't have a source for hydro and not just do them all the time. this is why I don't try and seek out H, but because oxy and strong pain medicine is rare, I would try them. Also, I like knowing exactly what I am getting with pills, where H you really don't know.

I would imagine that if I was to come across something stronger like Dilaudid or morphine I might get that feeling again. Oxycontin gets close.. but I haven't had oxy since before I had my tolerance.


I also get annoyed when people refer to vicodin pills by the APAP strength.

me: "how strong are the vicodin you got?"
them: "500mg"
me: "...no dude... its the smaller number.."

I strongly believe that people shouldn't take opiods (or any drug for that matter) without knowing exactly what they are taking in and how it works..

I have seen in 3 seperate instances on this board where someone took in over 10 grams of APAP in one day... bad bad bad.

I do think that your body can start building a tolerance to APAP like it does alcohol and other drugs. Some people have such massive pain killer addictions that they are taking in 50+ vicodin pills in a day.

I saw this show about addiction on HBO - this woman was taking about 100 norcos a day - doctor shopping and all that. 100 pills!!! insane!!
 
Hmm...for some reason, hydrocodone doesn't do much for me. I don't really have an opiate tolerance (as the most often I let myself use it is once a week), but I took 25mg last night, with grapefruit juice as well, and it was much weaker than it should have been. The juice might have even weakened the effect. It's strange, because I used to take tramadol/ultram, which is supposed to be much weaker than hydrocodone, and that stuff had a much greater effect at a relatively low dose.
 
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